Checking compatibility

Lemeshianos · 02/06/2009, 07:49 AM

Well I am planning my tank equipment based on what I want to keep. There are some stuff that unfortunately I can't change so who the habitants of my tank will be, will be determined by them.

These are the parameters I cant change:
Tank 80gallons Height 24 inches.
Lighting 8x54watt

Initially I'll just have 4x54 watt of lighting so thats 216 watts.

I was wondering what I can keep with 216 and what with 432.

What I would like are:
a pair of clown fish (probably false percula)
a yellow tang (i know 75 gallons are the minimum. will the pair of clowns affect the required gallon for this fish? i only have 80)
a diamond goby or other sand shifter.
Bubble coral
Leather coral or anemone or something that the clowns can host(if they host nowdays that are not wildcaught)
A good looking clam.
Some acroporas and other SPS.

From what I know its not good to have a leather coral with other SPS.
Bubble coral is aggresive and also not a good mix with a leather coral.
SPS and clams require lots of light which I won't have initially
Anemones dont do well in high flow and SPS require high flow.

So what can I put in a tank from the list above that will be compatible?
For those that cannot be added do you have a suggestion for something to replace them?

chort55 · 02/06/2009, 09:21 AM

There are some stuff that unfortunately I can't change so who the habitants of my tank will be, will be determined by them.

What would those things be?

I have seen anemones w/ sps (and just about every other type of corarl).... however your running the risk of the nem moving and wiping them (and pretty much any other coral) out.
The clowns will also host corals like frogspawn, hammers, and sometimes even some mushrooms just to name a few.

Lemeshianos · 02/06/2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Lemeshianos

These are the parameters I cant change:
Tank 80gallons Height 24 inches.
Lighting 8x54watt

So an anemone will sting all other corals? Is it possible to get an anemone first, let it settle at a spot it likes and then add sps?

Any input on the tang?

chort55 · 02/06/2009, 09:45 AM

Sorry I missed that part

...

It is possible to get the nem and let it settle in.... but sometimes they still will move for whatever reason down the road, not always, but sometimes.

The tang should be fine w/ your fish stocking list.

_E_ · 02/06/2009, 09:47 AM

As far as lighting, with 216 watts you might be able to get away with a few SPS up high...definitely should be alright with 432 watts.

Fish list looks OK. The goby might be more challenging at first and may bury any clams or corals that you put on the sand (not a problem if you don't mind redecorating).

With the corals...the bubble is very aggressive and sends out sweeper tentacles at night. You will want to give it some space. Leathers can sometimes give off chemicals that are harmful to SPS (carbon in a reactor can remove this potential problem). Anemones have the potential to move around the aquarium and sting corals, but you should be able to find a place in a SPS tank with low enough flow to house one.
Eric

Lemeshianos · 02/06/2009, 10:00 AM

any input on carpet or saddle anemone?
Trying to find information on what the basics needs are, so I'll know if its a possible future buy or not.

chort55 · 02/06/2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Lemeshianos
any input on carpet anemone?
Trying to find information on what the basics needs are, so I'll know if its a possible future buy or not.

Most carpets get huge...20-30" across. How long it takes or anything else about them don't really know, just read that far and moved on lol

_E_ · 02/06/2009, 10:32 AM

BTA's are less aggressive and smaller than a carpet.

chort55 · 02/06/2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by _E_
BTA's are less aggressive and smaller than a carpet.

+1

Toddrtrex · 02/06/2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by _E_
BTA's are less aggressive and smaller than a carpet.

True, but they are rock dwelling, which doesn't always work well with SPS, where are a Haddoni carpet will stay in/on the sand at the rock sand interface.

As for the size of them, they can/will get very large (( haddonis that is )), but that can, some what, be slowed down be not feeding a ton. One of my has been with me for 9+ years, and is about 12 inches across.

02/06/2009, 07:49 AM	#1
Lemeshianos Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 468	Checking compatibility Well I am planning my tank equipment based on what I want to keep. There are some stuff that unfortunately I can't change so who the habitants of my tank will be, will be determined by them. These are the parameters I cant change: Tank 80gallons Height 24 inches. Lighting 8x54watt Initially I'll just have 4x54 watt of lighting so thats 216 watts. I was wondering what I can keep with 216 and what with 432. What I would like are: a pair of clown fish (probably false percula) a yellow tang (i know 75 gallons are the minimum. will the pair of clowns affect the required gallon for this fish? i only have 80) a diamond goby or other sand shifter. Bubble coral Leather coral or anemone or something that the clowns can host(if they host nowdays that are not wildcaught) A good looking clam. Some acroporas and other SPS. From what I know its not good to have a leather coral with other SPS. Bubble coral is aggresive and also not a good mix with a leather coral. SPS and clams require lots of light which I won't have initially Anemones dont do well in high flow and SPS require high flow. So what can I put in a tank from the list above that will be compatible? For those that cannot be added do you have a suggestion for something to replace them?

02/06/2009, 09:47 AM	#5
_E_ Professional Lurker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Du Quoin, Illinois Posts: 1,169	As far as lighting, with 216 watts you might be able to get away with a few SPS up high...definitely should be alright with 432 watts. Fish list looks OK. The goby might be more challenging at first and may bury any clams or corals that you put on the sand (not a problem if you don't mind redecorating). With the corals...the bubble is very aggressive and sends out sweeper tentacles at night. You will want to give it some space. Leathers can sometimes give off chemicals that are harmful to SPS (carbon in a reactor can remove this potential problem). Anemones have the potential to move around the aquarium and sting corals, but you should be able to find a place in a SPS tank with low enough flow to house one. Eric __________________ Eric "If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination." Current Tank Info: 140 DSA with basement sump room

02/06/2009, 10:32 AM	#8
_E_ Professional Lurker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Du Quoin, Illinois Posts: 1,169	BTA's are less aggressive and smaller than a carpet. __________________ Eric "If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination." Current Tank Info: 140 DSA with basement sump room

02/06/2009, 09:21 AM	#2
chort55 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Flint, MI Posts: 1,274	There are some stuff that unfortunately I can't change so who the habitants of my tank will be, will be determined by them. What would those things be? I have seen anemones w/ sps (and just about every other type of corarl).... however your running the risk of the nem moving and wiping them (and pretty much any other coral) out. The clowns will also host corals like frogspawn, hammers, and sometimes even some mushrooms just to name a few.

02/06/2009, 09:45 AM	#4
chort55 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Flint, MI Posts: 1,274	Sorry I missed that part ... It is possible to get the nem and let it settle in.... but sometimes they still will move for whatever reason down the road, not always, but sometimes. The tang should be fine w/ your fish stocking list.

02/06/2009, 10:00 AM	#6
Lemeshianos Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Limassol, Cyprus Posts: 468	any input on carpet or saddle anemone? Trying to find information on what the basics needs are, so I'll know if its a possible future buy or not.