skimmer head scratcher - Page 2

BigBadBlenny · 02/20/2009, 06:33 PM

do you guys think it would be worth getting the single sicce cone from swc? my system atm is only 130 ish gallons. i can always add the second sicce when i upgrade.

bayoupr · 02/20/2009, 07:16 PM

I order the MSX single Scicci cone from which is the same cone as the SWC. I ordered this for possible future upgrade. Right now I'm going to run this on my 125g with a 40g sump/refuge I'm building.

mightymizz · 02/20/2009, 07:54 PM

Check out the I-tech skimmers as well. There is a thread here on RC about them. They are a true cone skimmer made in the USA and they are very reasonably priced. The January tank of the month ran one on his system as well. I have the small version, the 100, and it's super easy to adjust, just turn the wedge pipe left or right.
Check it out, you might really like them!

Snausy · 02/20/2009, 08:19 PM

Seems to be popular opinion that askoll>sicce. I don't know much about sicce but my askoll is dead silent and very efficient and powerful at the same time.

BigBadBlenny · 02/20/2009, 09:29 PM

i agree from what i have read askoll is the better pump. by how much i have no clue. the thing i am worried about is getting the better pump is great but does my system size need it? (~130 gallons) i would have to pay $250 - $300 more for a better pump that may never be used to its potential.

i have seen the itech, mailed the guy to get the scoop. but getting it shipped north after fees and duty and such, the swc is gonna be close if not cheaper. i also looked at a warner marine skimmer but the same thing applies.

i feel that i cant go wrong with the either machine.

thanks for your input and time.

DarG · 02/21/2009, 09:54 AM

Now you claim that 90% of my commentary is "bashing" the skimmer. Buy yet you cant find one quote where I criticized performance or build quality of the skimmer.

And how am I "mad" at David when I game him kudos for the slick naming and marketing of the design, and the design itself?

Here is is again. Its very simple ...
I dont think that using "cone" in the name is accurate or even appropriate. I dont think that the name "cone" represents anything other than being marketing text to increase interest, profit margin and potential sales. In my opinion it does not accurately represent the design of the skimmer.

That is all I had to say that was "negative" about the skimmer. Nothing touching on performance or build. Your going on about my "bashing" the skimmer is nothing more than your continued crying over what you feel is a personal attack on you because you own one of the skimmers. It is indeed on you. You are in fantasy land about anything else you perceive that I stated or intended to state.

If you have an argument with me, then it is on my opinions regarding the naming/marketing. You keep crying about me "bashing" the skimmer itself, which I havent done. And now you are whining about me being "mad" at David. So I have to ask, can you not comprehend what you read? Or, again, are you daft?

If I actually had "bashed" the skimmer on the merits of it's performance or quality, would you have had a full blown mental breakdown?

Snausy · 02/21/2009, 12:16 PM

This thread had moved on toward the positive with some good opinions about skimmers then you come back in here and can't help yourself with yet another personal attack. Be a marinesolutions crony, that's fine...but please just move on and get over it. It's pathetic how you just have to "win". We have a difference of opinion...that is all. Time to grow up and let things go.

I'm glad you like your cone, I'm sure it's great.

DarG · 02/22/2009, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snausy
This thread had moved on toward the positive with some good opinions about skimmers then you come back in here and can't help yourself with yet another personal attack. Be a marinesolutions crony, that's fine...but please just move on and get over it. It's pathetic how you just have to "win". We have a difference of opinion...that is all. Time to grow up and let things go.

I'm glad you like your cone, I'm sure it's great.

Just following your "lead".

We would have had a simple difference of opinion on the naming, marketing and pricing issue if you had stuck to disagreeing with my very clear and simple point. But you had to go off on a fantasyland tangent with your taking it personally and your crying and arguing things that I never stated.

Take your own advice.

nebraskareef · 02/22/2009, 08:26 AM

a1 swc cone gets my vote....

David spent so much time designing that logo, it's a shame Martin at Honya won't put it on for him, lol.

Snausy · 02/22/2009, 02:46 PM

lol DarG brought help...

Do you really hate David this much? Direct competition perhaps? It makes no sense otherwise. It's a great skimmer.

I'll give you last word. I realize finally that I'm talking to someone who is trying to put down the hurricone for reasons I don't care about.

DarG · 02/27/2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snausy
lol DarG brought help...

Do you really hate David this much? Direct competition perhaps? It makes no sense otherwise. It's a great skimmer.

I'll give you last word. I realize finally that I'm talking to someone who is trying to put down the hurricone for reasons I don't care about.

So you finally realize that the only issue I have with the skimmer is the use of the word "cone" in the name (of a skimmer that is not a cone) for the purposes of marketing.
Good for you! You never should have cared about it because it never was a condemnation of the skimmer itself from a performance or build quality perspective.

Im glad you finally realized that.

Sure took you long enough to finally figure that out and/or admit it though.

02/20/2009, 08:19 PM	#29
Snausy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 907	Seems to be popular opinion that askoll>sicce. I don't know much about sicce but my askoll is dead silent and very efficient and powerful at the same time. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 300gal FOWLR- Emperor Angel, Rainbow Wrasse, Green Bird Wrasse, Dogface Puffer, Niger Trigger, Flame Hawkfish, Matted Filefish 150 Turbosnails that only come out at night! :D Last edited by Snausy; 02/20/2009 at 08:25 PM.

02/21/2009, 12:16 PM	#32
Snausy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 907	This thread had moved on toward the positive with some good opinions about skimmers then you come back in here and can't help yourself with yet another personal attack. Be a marinesolutions crony, that's fine...but please just move on and get over it. It's pathetic how you just have to "win". We have a difference of opinion...that is all. Time to grow up and let things go. I'm glad you like your cone, I'm sure it's great. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 300gal FOWLR- Emperor Angel, Rainbow Wrasse, Green Bird Wrasse, Dogface Puffer, Niger Trigger, Flame Hawkfish, Matted Filefish 150 Turbosnails that only come out at night! :D Last edited by Snausy; 02/21/2009 at 12:23 PM.

02/22/2009, 08:26 AM	#34
nebraskareef MFCEO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,495 Blog Entries: 1	a1 swc cone gets my vote.... David spent so much time designing that logo, it's a shame Martin at Honya won't put it on for him, lol. __________________ Originally Posted by tmz "Now if I drink the vodka the colors do look much better than if I drink the vinegar."

02/22/2009, 02:46 PM	#35
Snausy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 907	lol DarG brought help... Do you really hate David this much? Direct competition perhaps? It makes no sense otherwise. It's a great skimmer. I'll give you last word. I realize finally that I'm talking to someone who is trying to put down the hurricone for reasons I don't care about. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 300gal FOWLR- Emperor Angel, Rainbow Wrasse, Green Bird Wrasse, Dogface Puffer, Niger Trigger, Flame Hawkfish, Matted Filefish 150 Turbosnails that only come out at night! :D Last edited by Snausy; 02/22/2009 at 03:04 PM.

02/20/2009, 06:33 PM	#26
BigBadBlenny Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Thunder Bay On Canada Posts: 598	do you guys think it would be worth getting the single sicce cone from swc? my system atm is only 130 ish gallons. i can always add the second sicce when i upgrade.

02/20/2009, 07:16 PM	#27
bayoupr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,308	I order the MSX single Scicci cone from which is the same cone as the SWC. I ordered this for possible future upgrade. Right now I'm going to run this on my 125g with a 40g sump/refuge I'm building.

02/20/2009, 07:54 PM	#28
mightymizz Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 304	Check out the I-tech skimmers as well. There is a thread here on RC about them. They are a true cone skimmer made in the USA and they are very reasonably priced. The January tank of the month ran one on his system as well. I have the small version, the 100, and it's super easy to adjust, just turn the wedge pipe left or right. Check it out, you might really like them!

02/20/2009, 09:29 PM	#30
BigBadBlenny Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Thunder Bay On Canada Posts: 598	i agree from what i have read askoll is the better pump. by how much i have no clue. the thing i am worried about is getting the better pump is great but does my system size need it? (~130 gallons) i would have to pay $250 - $300 more for a better pump that may never be used to its potential. i have seen the itech, mailed the guy to get the scoop. but getting it shipped north after fees and duty and such, the swc is gonna be close if not cheaper. i also looked at a warner marine skimmer but the same thing applies. i feel that i cant go wrong with the either machine. thanks for your input and time.

02/21/2009, 09:54 AM	#31
DarG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,515	Now you claim that 90% of my commentary is "bashing" the skimmer. Buy yet you cant find one quote where I criticized performance or build quality of the skimmer. And how am I "mad" at David when I game him kudos for the slick naming and marketing of the design, and the design itself? Here is is again. Its very simple ... I dont think that using "cone" in the name is accurate or even appropriate. I dont think that the name "cone" represents anything other than being marketing text to increase interest, profit margin and potential sales. In my opinion it does not accurately represent the design of the skimmer. That is all I had to say that was "negative" about the skimmer. Nothing touching on performance or build. Your going on about my "bashing" the skimmer is nothing more than your continued crying over what you feel is a personal attack on you because you own one of the skimmers. It is indeed on you. You are in fantasy land about anything else you perceive that I stated or intended to state. If you have an argument with me, then it is on my opinions regarding the naming/marketing. You keep crying about me "bashing" the skimmer itself, which I havent done. And now you are whining about me being "mad" at David. So I have to ask, can you not comprehend what you read? Or, again, are you daft? If I actually had "bashed" the skimmer on the merits of it's performance or quality, would you have had a full blown mental breakdown?