pistol or mantis

boomer135 · 03/21/2009, 12:13 PM

dont know if I have pistolor mantis (gulf rock) Well I am hearing clicking noises... 1-3 in a row mainly at night and sometimes during the day...Do I have to rid my tank f these guys as it looks like I will have tear down the rockto get them...any ideas that have worked fo you guys? And is it a must to rid my tank of these guys...

surge19us · 03/21/2009, 12:20 PM

If it's a Pistol it should be OK. If it is a mantis it needs to come out. Maybe go in the sump or find someone who wants it. You can try baiting a glass jar with a piece of shrimp at night and lean it on an angle on the rock work. See if you can catch it. Do you have sand or a bare bottom? If sand you should see some tunneling if it is a pistol.

boomer135 · 03/21/2009, 03:04 PM

i have shallow sand bed...but hoe can i tell if its a pistol or mantis?

Ms_Jerk · 03/21/2009, 04:52 PM

I have never heard of a mantis making a clicking sound. Pistol shrimps have 2 claws, one bigger than the other. It burrows itself in the sand, usually under a rock.

this is a mantis.

http://week.divebums.com/2006/Feb27-...ve-gardner.jpg

boomer135 · 03/21/2009, 06:11 PM

I have already found a few mantis...Thanks for the pic way more colorfull than the ones I found...

So "Clicking" must be a pistol from the claw to stun prey? If he/she is ok to keepand I dont have to rid of it..I wonder what its eating?

ser_renely · 03/21/2009, 07:47 PM

mantis are fine if they are small....not as bad as people say imo. Pincers can be dangerous.

Just don't take it out and flush it. give it to someone who wants it or the pet store

boomer135 · 03/21/2009, 10:02 PM

the clicking is coming from a rock. do you still think its a pistol?

Quote:

Originally posted by Ms_Jerk
I have never heard of a mantis making a clicking sound. Pistol shrimps have 2 claws, one bigger than the other. It burrows itself in the sand, usually under a rock.

this is a mantis.

http://week.divebums.com/2006/Feb27-...ve-gardner.jpg

ser_renely · 03/22/2009, 07:26 AM

could be. I have mantis in rocks and pistol shrimp. When the mantis is in a rock it is usually smashing the rock to make their home. no idea if that is common, but seems what mine do.

geffhardy2 · 03/22/2009, 10:51 AM

Hey i have 2 pistal shrimp and they really dont seem to make to clicking noise at all..they are pretty small though. Hearing the sounds means you have one of them( pistal or mantis) but i know mantis shrimp pack a much stronger punch. IT would sound like your glass is about to crack, but their have been less then 12 cases ever recorded of them actually breaking the glass. The only way to tell for sure is if your fish or inverts start to come up missing.
that means its probably a mantis

talon4x4 · 03/22/2009, 10:56 AM

Do you have any clown fish in there?? My cinnamon clown makes a clicking noise at night (sometimes during the day). I have only seen her do it once but I hear it all the time.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ing-jaws-.html

Ms_Jerk · 03/22/2009, 12:05 PM

My boyfriends pistol can get pretty loud. We heard it from another room.

Have you decided what you think it is yet?

Dtronic · 03/22/2009, 12:25 PM

If you have another tank you can id the clicking rock and put it in there. Sooner or later you should see.

03/21/2009, 12:13 PM	#1
boomer135 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: st pete fl Posts: 193	pistol or mantis dont know if I have pistolor mantis (gulf rock) Well I am hearing clicking noises... 1-3 in a row mainly at night and sometimes during the day...Do I have to rid my tank f these guys as it looks like I will have tear down the rockto get them...any ideas that have worked fo you guys? And is it a must to rid my tank of these guys...

03/21/2009, 07:47 PM	#6
ser_renely Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,820	mantis are fine if they are small....not as bad as people say imo. Pincers can be dangerous. Just don't take it out and flush it. give it to someone who wants it or the pet store __________________ RIP: Osc. Clown - Ammonia, YW GobY - overflow, YW Goby - Pistol shrimp, Firefish - acclimation. 5 Fire fish - pistol shrimp, Mandarin - Pistol shrimp!!!!! Current Tank Info: 60g Cube, 15g sump/fuge,Tunze 9010 skimmer, Reefbreeders Photon 16" - 2 Osc. Clowns,2 Lyretail Anthias, Blue Chromis, mp20, mp10....another DAMN pistol shrimp!

03/22/2009, 07:26 AM	#8
ser_renely Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,820	could be. I have mantis in rocks and pistol shrimp. When the mantis is in a rock it is usually smashing the rock to make their home. no idea if that is common, but seems what mine do. __________________ RIP: Osc. Clown - Ammonia, YW GobY - overflow, YW Goby - Pistol shrimp, Firefish - acclimation. 5 Fire fish - pistol shrimp, Mandarin - Pistol shrimp!!!!! Current Tank Info: 60g Cube, 15g sump/fuge,Tunze 9010 skimmer, Reefbreeders Photon 16" - 2 Osc. Clowns,2 Lyretail Anthias, Blue Chromis, mp20, mp10....another DAMN pistol shrimp!

03/21/2009, 12:20 PM	#2
surge19us Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Willard, Oh Posts: 656	If it's a Pistol it should be OK. If it is a mantis it needs to come out. Maybe go in the sump or find someone who wants it. You can try baiting a glass jar with a piece of shrimp at night and lean it on an angle on the rock work. See if you can catch it. Do you have sand or a bare bottom? If sand you should see some tunneling if it is a pistol.

03/21/2009, 03:04 PM	#3
boomer135 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: st pete fl Posts: 193	i have shallow sand bed...but hoe can i tell if its a pistol or mantis?

03/21/2009, 04:52 PM	#4
Ms_Jerk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 126	I have never heard of a mantis making a clicking sound. Pistol shrimps have 2 claws, one bigger than the other. It burrows itself in the sand, usually under a rock. this is a mantis. http://week.divebums.com/2006/Feb27-...ve-gardner.jpg

03/21/2009, 06:11 PM	#5
boomer135 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: st pete fl Posts: 193	I have already found a few mantis...Thanks for the pic way more colorfull than the ones I found... So "Clicking" must be a pistol from the claw to stun prey? If he/she is ok to keepand I dont have to rid of it..I wonder what its eating?

03/22/2009, 10:51 AM	#9
geffhardy2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bronx, ny Posts: 171	Hey i have 2 pistal shrimp and they really dont seem to make to clicking noise at all..they are pretty small though. Hearing the sounds means you have one of them( pistal or mantis) but i know mantis shrimp pack a much stronger punch. IT would sound like your glass is about to crack, but their have been less then 12 cases ever recorded of them actually breaking the glass. The only way to tell for sure is if your fish or inverts start to come up missing. that means its probably a mantis

03/22/2009, 10:56 AM	#10
talon4x4 Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,559	Do you have any clown fish in there?? My cinnamon clown makes a clicking noise at night (sometimes during the day). I have only seen her do it once but I hear it all the time. http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ing-jaws-.html

03/22/2009, 12:05 PM	#11
Ms_Jerk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 126	My boyfriends pistol can get pretty loud. We heard it from another room. Have you decided what you think it is yet?

03/22/2009, 12:25 PM	#12
Dtronic Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 272	If you have another tank you can id the clicking rock and put it in there. Sooner or later you should see.