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Unread 04/03/2009, 07:56 AM   #351
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Well I cannot believe it has been so long since I have posted to my thread....

A lot has been happening since the crash of the tank.
I can honestly say that was a very difficult week for me, Ed was out of town for a convention and I had to deal with the tank and the AWFUL smell all by myself.

We have been able to recover from the crash, BUT I still have Ed's misfit island in the tank

Thanks to jdieck, he helped me turn my GEO calcium reactor into a well oiled machine
We also purchased a flow meter for the reactor, WOW this is a great piece of equipment. No more measuring with a cup and a watch!
We are also going to upgrade our PH controller from the Milwaukee SMS122 to a Pinpoint PH Controller, I am not looking into using the Milwaukee on the Kalk reactor just to measure the PH, Ed is not so sure about this.
The Kalk reactor is now working properly. I just want to look at a monitor to see when it is time to add/replace the Kalk.

It sounds like I am getting a little spoiled with the automation

We have also made the water change out very automated.
Ed will go into detail on that later.

We have the protein skimmer's self cleaning head hooked up now so it cleans its self two times a day! cleaning the skimmer is not my idea of having fun with the tank!

We purchased some LR from some of our local reefers, a few pieces had GHA on them. I had no idea how fast that stuff grows and how hard it is to get it off the rocks. it is like a weed in the garden,

what is the saying " if you pull on it, and it pulls easy it is a plant, if you pull on it and it is will not budge, it is a weed!

Ed and I have been battling this for a while now. Ed has a stainless steel brush he scrubs the rock and I use a siphon hose to remove the loose pieces. We have been doing this for weeks now. We still have a GHA problem in the tank, but I started using Alagefix Marine by API, I hope this product will live up to the reputation it has here on RC.
I will let you know how it works for me later.


We have a pair of false perc clowns, they have turned into a mated pair! We have been watching them go through the motions of YOU KNOW WHAT, well the other day I went to a friends house to pick up a few frags and I notice the clowns were acting a little different, this is what they were doing:




I grabbed my camera as fast as I could, so these are not the best shoots.
This is first time we have seen eggs.
They are hosting a hairy mushroom, we have a small BTA in the tank, but they like the mushroom better.

It is a shame the babies will turn into fish food

I asked Ed if we could set up a small tank for them to breed in next time, right now he is saying NO!


I will take some FTS this week end and post them later.


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Unread 04/03/2009, 09:28 AM   #352
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Thanks for the up date Sandy. Glad you're recovering from the Kalk issues. I've found balancing the Alk to be one of the more challenging aspects of keeping a fair sized SPS dominated tank.

Don't worry about your clows for now, my false percs spawn every 2-3 weeks. You'll have plenty of oportunity to raise them if you decide to try.


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Unread 04/03/2009, 12:18 PM   #353
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Thanks Bax,
I agree with you on the challenging aspects of maintaing cal. & Alk. in a larger system.

I am going to monitor the spawning events of the clownm fish.

I have not been able to talk Ed into starting 2 more tanks at this time............. YET!.............


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Unread 04/03/2009, 12:34 PM   #354
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Try putting a small tile down where they spawn, this way when they spawn, you can easily remove the eggs for rearing.


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Unread 04/03/2009, 03:05 PM   #355
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Great pic of your spawning clowns, Sandy! Sorry about the troubles with your tank - I know it's a little late but, somehow, I missed it.


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Unread 04/03/2009, 03:17 PM   #356
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Try putting a small tile down where they spawn, this way when they spawn, you can easily remove the eggs for rearing.
Thanks for the tip!

The mushrooms are on a piece of tonga branch, which is easlily removed.
I almost have Ed talked into starting another system for the clowns.


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Unread 04/03/2009, 03:20 PM   #357
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Great pic of your spawning clowns, Sandy! Sorry about the troubles with your tank - I know it's a little late but, somehow, I missed it.
Thanks Tom,
How is your build going???

We had to do some maintance on the lights the other day, with the rack being movable it sure made the job easier!
Thanks for all your tips again!


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Unread 04/03/2009, 05:44 PM   #358
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great build thread.


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Unread 04/04/2009, 06:48 AM   #359
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Good to see that you are back posting - now I know why you have been away for a while.
My granddaughter is visiting me from England at the moment and I told her that I would take her to the LFS to pick out a couple of Nemos. She was so excited.


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Unread 04/04/2009, 07:04 AM   #360
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What a great update Sandy - when you update, you really update. Great pictures of your spawning clowns


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Unread 04/04/2009, 08:11 AM   #361
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Nice tank Ed and Sandy,thought of getting a rimless at glass cages,my ultimate dream tank.


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Unread 04/06/2009, 05:38 AM   #362
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Holy crap

Just found out about your crisis! So sorry to hear.

Keep your chin[s] up and take one day @ a time to get back to lovin' what you're doing.

Your LFS did a really nice thing....what goes around, ....

Good luck and keep updating as you re-build your big system.

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Unread 04/06/2009, 01:06 PM   #363
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Thank you every one for all of your kind words.

I just can not seem to get Ed to write up his progress with the plumbing

I will take some pictures of his work and post them later.
Maybe that will inspire him


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Unread 04/06/2009, 01:21 PM   #364
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heh.. that works for my wife too. when she gets tired of nagging me to do something around the house, she just walks by the room i'm in carrying a hammer/wrench/screwdriver.

suddenly she has my full attention..


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Unread 04/06/2009, 03:29 PM   #365
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your wife sounds like a smart lady!


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Unread 04/06/2009, 04:49 PM   #366
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The recession (not that we are participating) has cause me to work twice as hard and long for less; as a result time has been precious! Finally have a few moments to come up for air!

The RO/DI design was inspired by glassreef(Tom). MY goal was to have the capability to do any thing I might ever need or imagine in the design; stir water in either tank (independently), move water from either tank to the other, drain each tank independently, move water to the reef tank from either or both tanks, maintenance the pump without cutting pipes, and lastly an automated RO top-off system. The true-union valves enable every need I could imagine.... They are the bomb - not a single leak!





The cam lever cap (banjo fitting) is on the return line. I added this and built a hose apparatus that we use to pump water (from either or both tanks) during water changes!!! The controller is setup to stir the water (in either tank) the night before a water change.






On the lower right side you see a second banjo cam lever CAP.
We use the cap when not in use. The drain hose uses a banjo lever cam designed to fit on the end of a 1" hose. They will not come loose or leak! The only metal are the levers and they are aluminum and do not come into constant contact with the salt water.....

The same concept was use to drain the tank with regard to the banjo cam fittings. This hose apparatus has three different length pieces of PVC that are used to drain the tank. One for 25gal, one for 60gal, and one for 120gal. This ensures we do not over drain for the amount of salt that is prepared. The pipe is in the tank (under the water) therefore a glued fitting is not necessary. Now we can get distracted (finish that beer) without
having to stand over the tank when draining..........

The ATO was interesting. The first plan was plagued by Isaac Newton. I plumbed the return to the sump. I have a sensor in the supply tank and the sump. Once it started it would not stop!

Then I re-plumbed it to the over flow box! Isaac-1 Ed-1. The advantage (rationalization) of the new and improved design was that the RO/DI water in the overflow box gave the un-salted water more time and distance to dilute with the tank water!
I have always thought is was unnecessary stress on the tank to have to deal with un-salted water. The dynamics of the un-salted water do reverent it from mixing as well as you might think. Hence the recommendation to stir over night.

more to follow........


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Unread 04/06/2009, 05:08 PM   #367
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The protein skimmer was a challenge as I wanted it easy to maintain yet out of the way...... I drilled into the side of the stand to get the feed line from the over flow box to the PS. This allowed me to locate it very close to the stand... The fun part was the self cleaning head. We used a solenoid setup in the controller for the cleaning times and activation of the selfcleaning head motor. We use fresh water to flood the cup two times a day. I removed the factory drain apparatus as it was designed to allow the cup to fill then drain. This process became problematic likely due to the fact that their design would not tolerate back pressure. I had originally connected the drain the the same drain I used to drain the tank. This required the line to fall a couple of feet then up hill six inches. The line always had a small amount of water in it thus the back pressure. I simply routed the drain to the same location the RO/DI drains to... This location is approx. 1/2 higher than the bottom of the cup which some what mirrors Deltec's design and allows for better cleaning....



The last thing we did was run the air intake out side. The line goes thru a 1 1/2 inch pipe full of charcoal. The end caps have filter media to prevent dust and contaminants from getting into the system. The goal was to improve the PH with fresh air!

So far so good!

Now all I have to do is clean up the wiring !!!!!!!!



More on the calcium reactor.........


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The calcium reactor was modified using a flow meter (gillmont flow meter - size 13 - glass ball).
We had a direct correlation on the flow and used that as a starting point... The meter was connected using two sizes of tubing down to 1/4 line then using john guest fittings and 1/2'' PVC fittings.... No more measuring the effluent! Much more user friendly!

My original plan was to have the system drip into the overflow box return line. This proved not to be a good idea as the air bubbles creep back into the system.




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Here are a few FTS....

I have a new camera, still having a problem with the white balance...... UGH!









We started with a black background.... That didn't last to long. It made the tank look to dark.

I like the blue back ground the best.

The side panels open on the frame for easy access when cleaning the glass.

We still have not come up with a grand idea to support the top lid.

So right now I just use a PVC pipe to hold the top open...

Maybe someone here has a good idea to support the lid.


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Wow! The tank is sweet!!!


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Very nice, I have to say. I just read through your thread and this is a well planned build!

Tanks looks great! Congrads!


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great plumbing write up! tyvm for taking the time to do that. lots of good ideas there..


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Wow! The tank is sweet!!!
Thank you Bax.
It was so difficult to rebuild after the crash.
Some of my corals were 2+ years old.
Starting with frags gives us time to watch the new babies grow.
I defiantly learned a hard and $$$$$$$ lesson.


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Very nice, I have to say. I just read through your thread and this is a well planned build!

Tanks looks great! Congrads!
Thank you SuperR,
We tried to think of everything possible since we were starting from scratch. Thanks to a lot of reefers here on RC it made the planning easier.

We had a TON of help from GlassReef (Tom)
on the light rack.







When we need to do any maintance on the tank, these lights slide completely out of the way.

Ed Reef was also a GREAT help in the planning the system.
If any one can help plan a system, Ed is the man.

JDieck was a great help in turning our GEO calcium reactor into a well oiled machine.
I found it very difficult tuning it in on this large system.


What an honor it is to have these three helping you in planning your system.

If I haven't said THANK YOU to Tom, Ed & JDieck in a while THANK YOU, because you all were such a great help.


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great plumbing write up! tyvm for taking the time to do that. lots of good ideas there..
Thank you porthios,
Ed is very proud of the pluming
He tried to think of everything I needed to do water changes, making water, moving water from one tank to the other, mixing salt water, he even has pumps inside the tanks to make sure the salt is mixing properly and lastly draining both tanks for cleaning...

I have to say it took me a while to figure out all the valves on the water storage tanks.....

If you look really close at the plumbing on the storage tanks, I had to draw small arrow's for the flow directions.
I finally got it... (after I drew the arrows)
Ed is now proud of me


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