My Reefing Journey/Build (Plenty of Pics) - Page 23

will16 · 04/19/2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Electrobes
Very nice Will! Do you stir your sand bed up once in a while, or do you let your wrasses do that?

Thanks! The only time I move the sand it too cover back any bare spots caused by flow from the powerheads. Other than that, my diamond watchman goby and nassarius snails keep it clean.

will16 · 04/19/2009, 06:33 PM

Here is a problem I have been dealing with recently. I finally got a replacement Labouti wrasse but it developed a swim bladder problem. It can not keep itself upright. This video was early on but it has gotten worse. Pretty much upside down and pinned to the top of the breeder box now. I feel terrible for the poor guy.

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...derProblem.flv

Electrobes · 04/19/2009, 06:44 PM

Hmm.. a quick serach yields a couple of things that your fish prob don't have.. according to the info it could be a malformed bladder (It would have been swimming oddly from the start, so I doubt this applies to you), cancer or other disease next to the bladder that is deforming the bladder (Could be but I am sure the fish would have shown other forms of stress before this), poor nutrition (I doubt this applies to you), constipation (Have you seen it poop lately?), or some serious bacterial or parasitic infection (Most likely culprit), or massive temp swings (Doubt this too).

The solution says to feed it live food to make sure it eats well, make sure it's pooping, and that the temp is stable. I didn't see any medications that targets the problem specifically though...

HTH

will16 · 04/19/2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Electrobes
Hmm.. a quick serach yields a couple of things that your fish prob don't have.. according to the info it could be a malformed bladder (It would have been swimming oddly from the start, so I doubt this applies to you), cancer or other disease next to the bladder that is deforming the bladder (Could be but I am sure the fish would have shown other forms of stress before this), poor nutrition (I doubt this applies to you), constipation (Have you seen it poop lately?), or some serious bacterial or parasitic infection (Most likely culprit), or massive temp swings (Doubt this too).

The solution says to feed it live food to make sure it eats well, make sure it's pooping, and that the temp is stable. I didn't see any medications that targets the problem specifically though...

HTH

Hey thanks for the info. It was a new addition so I really don't know the history before I got it. It swam a little strangely from the start and just got worse. It ate great in the beginning. Even when upside down, it still had a good appetite. The abdomen started getting quite swollen. I did finally see it poop once and I was hoping that it would pass whatever the problem was but the condition remained. As of now, he's stopped eating. I've been told that feeding a peeled boiled pea might help but unfortunately this is not a regular food for wrasses. Will not eat it. Doesn't look good.

Electrobes · 04/20/2009, 05:31 AM

Bugger, I'm thinking infection of some sort... more bacterial than parasitic. You could try a broad spectrum anti-biotic, unfortunately aside from that you'll need to destroy the fish according to the info I'm reading.

will16 · 04/20/2009, 06:06 AM

I went to check on him after my last post and he had finally died

Thanks for trying though.

Electrobes · 04/20/2009, 06:10 AM

Sorry to hear

Hopefully your next one will be in better shape. I've never been great at keeping my interest with fish, and worse yet is that I let my wife pick'em. Naturally her favorite fish are damsels... she always picks the aggressive ones!

james3370 · 04/21/2009, 12:08 PM

will....didn't read thru your whole build thread, but i saw the 4th pic you posted in the "see under your stand" thread & i am interested in the louvers in the lower front corner of the stand.

i assume those are to allow air to come into the sump area?? are they regular old AC register covers?? do you get much light creep out of them??

i'm considering putting one of these in the bottom of each of my side doors w/ a pc fan behind them pulling air inward.

thoughts?? suggestions??

i need to go back over the thread, cause this was one of the ones i started reading when beginning the planning stages of mine awhile ago

will16 · 04/21/2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by james3370
will....didn't read thru your whole build thread, but i saw the 4th pic you posted in the "see under your stand" thread & i am interested in the louvers in the lower front corner of the stand.

i assume those are to allow air to come into the sump area?? are they regular old AC register covers?? do you get much light creep out of them??

i'm considering putting one of these in the bottom of each of my side doors w/ a pc fan behind them pulling air inward.

thoughts?? suggestions??

i need to go back over the thread, cause this was one of the ones i started reading when beginning the planning stages of mine awhile ago

Oh, I think that is just light reflection you are seeing. I do not have louvers there. That is just the light reflecting off of the molding for the columns. Sorry... For ventilation in the stand, I have 2 large ac fans hanging over the sump. They are controlled by my rk2 and come on when the tank temp hits 81 deg. The back of the stand is open so it draws air from there.

Sorry to disappoint

james3370 · 04/21/2009, 12:30 PM

ahh...my sump area is completely enclosed (as seen in my build thread), but looking for a way to get some air in there w/ minimal light creep.

i found a 4x10 register cover that i think i'm gonna put on the lower part of the door opposite the refugium end of the sump & put (1-2) 120mm pc fans (which i have a buttload of left over from an ebay bulk auction LOL) blowing inward. then the other side will just be a vent w/ no fan

i plan on putting a 6" desktop clip-on fan on the sump....just looking to get fresh air into the area w/ these vents

Taqpol · 04/21/2009, 12:37 PM

Does someone have a link to the "under the stand" thread you guys are talking about? I'm designing the layout of my 120g stand and would like to look at what some other people have done!

james3370 · 04/21/2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Taqpol
Does someone have a link to the "under the stand" thread you guys are talking about? I'm designing the layout of my 120g stand and would like to look at what some other people have done!

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1621412

H.Veras · 04/27/2009, 09:39 PM

hey sup man... i would like to know what kind of heater are u using and how many?

will16 · 04/28/2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by H.Veras
hey sup man... i would like to know what kind of heater are u using and how many?

I originally started with 2 x visitherm stealth 250w but believe it or not, they both failed on me. Now I am usung 2 x jager ts-200w's. Been working great. I like the indicator light so you know they 3e working. The stealth's don't have that.

H.Veras · 05/04/2009, 01:47 PM

hey will i would love to see your tank to be tank of the month really soon... your set up is great.... i hope you get there man..... your tank inspired me.... thx for all the great pictures....

will16 · 05/04/2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by H.Veras
hey will i would love to see your tank to be tank of the month really soon... your set up is great.... i hope you get there man..... your tank inspired me.... thx for all the great pictures....

Hey thanks man. Glad to see your build coming along so nicely.

Sisterlimonpot · 05/08/2009, 09:51 PM

Took me an hour trying to find this thread so now that I found it, I'm subscribing. Will, I love your stand design and now that I have a new tank it needs a stand and I'm going to copy a lot of your ideas...thanks

BTW very nice set up. And beautiful photography!!

will16 · 05/09/2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by Sisterlimonpot
Took me an hour trying to find this thread so now that I found it, I'm subscribing. Will, I love your stand design and now that I have a new tank it needs a stand and I'm going to copy a lot of your ideas...thanks

BTW very nice set up. And beautiful photography!!

Thank you! Feel free to copy away. Good luck with your new tank!

will16 · 05/09/2009, 09:59 AM

New addition... Lineatus

Acclimating

Making nice with the flame...

will16 · 05/09/2009, 10:02 AM

And here is a recent shot of the flame. I am really surprised at how well it has transitioned to male in the absence of a female.

OwNeD162 · 05/10/2009, 04:04 AM

Beautiful new addition Will

!

Mcubed · 05/10/2009, 04:10 AM

Nice new addition and the colors on the flame are awesome!

will16 · 05/10/2009, 07:58 AM

Thanks guys.

Mitchell... curious... being that you are in Australia, how are the prices for Australian fish and corals for you?

Sardaukar · 05/10/2009, 04:32 PM

Great tank! Just finished reading the whole thread and I want to second the earlier comment about how nice it is to see a build/update thread that actually includes the bad with the good. Its reassuring to read about beautiful tanks that work through algae problems, acro pests, fish deaths, ich, etc. Your tank is pretty much what I'm shooting for when I get the cash to return to this hobby: 4' tank, T5 lighting, vortechs and lots of wrasses

Couple of quick questions. I take it the radiant survived that wound from the Kole? Does he have a scar and how well did it heal? Do you think the extra 6" of front to back would have been worth going for a 120 or are you pretty happy with the 90?

OwNeD162 · 05/10/2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by will16
Thanks guys.

Mitchell... curious... being that you are in Australia, how are the prices for Australian fish and corals for you?

Well, some of the Aussie Acan's I see sold over in the states for like US$200, we can pick up over here for like US$50 (but it's really rare to get them over here because they all get sent to the States cause they can get more money for them). Other corals are pretty much the same... Its just things like aussie acans and aussie duncans that get so marked up in America.

Fish are more expensive over here, but not by too much.

Invertebrate are the killer! In Australia, we can't import invertebrate, therefore it all has to be Australian collected, so it is RIDICULOUSLY expensive! Snails are expensive, Anemones are expensive, skunk cleaner shrimp are $100+

Also, equipment is quite a bit more expensive over here, due to the fact that most of it comes from the States...

04/19/2009, 06:44 PM	#553
Electrobes Montipora type guy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 2,945	Hmm.. a quick serach yields a couple of things that your fish prob don't have.. according to the info it could be a malformed bladder (It would have been swimming oddly from the start, so I doubt this applies to you), cancer or other disease next to the bladder that is deforming the bladder (Could be but I am sure the fish would have shown other forms of stress before this), poor nutrition (I doubt this applies to you), constipation (Have you seen it poop lately?), or some serious bacterial or parasitic infection (Most likely culprit), or massive temp swings (Doubt this too). The solution says to feed it live food to make sure it eats well, make sure it's pooping, and that the temp is stable. I didn't see any medications that targets the problem specifically though... HTH __________________ Christian Current Tank Info: 100G Half Cylinder

04/20/2009, 05:31 AM	#555
Electrobes Montipora type guy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 2,945	Bugger, I'm thinking infection of some sort... more bacterial than parasitic. You could try a broad spectrum anti-biotic, unfortunately aside from that you'll need to destroy the fish according to the info I'm reading. __________________ Christian Current Tank Info: 100G Half Cylinder

04/20/2009, 06:10 AM	#557
Electrobes Montipora type guy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 2,945	Sorry to hear Hopefully your next one will be in better shape. I've never been great at keeping my interest with fish, and worse yet is that I let my wife pick'em. Naturally her favorite fish are damsels... she always picks the aggressive ones! __________________ Christian Current Tank Info: 100G Half Cylinder

04/21/2009, 12:08 PM	#558
james3370 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US ARMY - El Paso TX Posts: 3,678	will....didn't read thru your whole build thread, but i saw the 4th pic you posted in the "see under your stand" thread & i am interested in the louvers in the lower front corner of the stand. i assume those are to allow air to come into the sump area?? are they regular old AC register covers?? do you get much light creep out of them?? i'm considering putting one of these in the bottom of each of my side doors w/ a pc fan behind them pulling air inward. thoughts?? suggestions?? i need to go back over the thread, cause this was one of the ones i started reading when beginning the planning stages of mine awhile ago __________________ Yes I hear voices in my head, but they speak spanish so I can't understand anything they say. there's no place like 127.0.0.1 It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.... Current Tank Info: currently tankless....but planning an AIO

04/21/2009, 12:30 PM	#560
james3370 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US ARMY - El Paso TX Posts: 3,678	ahh...my sump area is completely enclosed (as seen in my build thread), but looking for a way to get some air in there w/ minimal light creep. i found a 4x10 register cover that i think i'm gonna put on the lower part of the door opposite the refugium end of the sump & put (1-2) 120mm pc fans (which i have a buttload of left over from an ebay bulk auction LOL) blowing inward. then the other side will just be a vent w/ no fan i plan on putting a 6" desktop clip-on fan on the sump....just looking to get fresh air into the area w/ these vents __________________ Yes I hear voices in my head, but they speak spanish so I can't understand anything they say. there's no place like 127.0.0.1 It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.... Current Tank Info: currently tankless....but planning an AIO

04/19/2009, 06:33 PM	#552
will16 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,812	Here is a problem I have been dealing with recently. I finally got a replacement Labouti wrasse but it developed a swim bladder problem. It can not keep itself upright. This video was early on but it has gotten worse. Pretty much upside down and pinned to the top of the breeder box now. I feel terrible for the poor guy. http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...derProblem.flv

04/20/2009, 06:06 AM	#556
will16 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,812	I went to check on him after my last post and he had finally died Thanks for trying though.

04/21/2009, 12:37 PM	#561
Taqpol Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 2,205	Does someone have a link to the "under the stand" thread you guys are talking about? I'm designing the layout of my 120g stand and would like to look at what some other people have done! __________________ ^ Click on my username and 'Visit Taqpol's Home Page!" to view my 220 gallon custom Miracles tank! -Alex

04/27/2009, 09:39 PM	#563
H.Veras Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: bay area, ca Posts: 1,024	hey sup man... i would like to know what kind of heater are u using and how many?

05/04/2009, 01:47 PM	#565
H.Veras Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: bay area, ca Posts: 1,024	hey will i would love to see your tank to be tank of the month really soon... your set up is great.... i hope you get there man..... your tank inspired me.... thx for all the great pictures.... __________________ 90g tech series. Current Tank Info: 90g tech series

05/08/2009, 09:51 PM	#567
Sisterlimonpot R.C. Fraternity President Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Litchfeild Park AZ Posts: 11,490 Blog Entries: 2	Took me an hour trying to find this thread so now that I found it, I'm subscribing. Will, I love your stand design and now that I have a new tank it needs a stand and I'm going to copy a lot of your ideas...thanks BTW very nice set up. And beautiful photography!! __________________ Jimmy MASVC President Dishes are done man! Current Tank Info: 300 in progress

05/09/2009, 09:59 AM	#569
will16 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,812	New addition... Lineatus Acclimating Making nice with the flame...

05/09/2009, 10:02 AM	#570
will16 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,812	And here is a recent shot of the flame. I am really surprised at how well it has transitioned to male in the absence of a female.

05/10/2009, 04:04 AM	#571
OwNeD162 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia Posts: 873	Beautiful new addition Will ! __________________ [URL=https://matchnow.info]Womans in your town[/URL] Current Tank Info: 2 x 1 x 1ft + EcoSystem Pro 40 HOB + 1 x 150W DE MH, 2 x 24W Actinic, Hailea HC- 150A 1/10 HP Chiller, Vortech MP20

05/10/2009, 04:10 AM	#572
Mcubed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 56	Nice new addition and the colors on the flame are awesome!

05/10/2009, 07:58 AM	#573
will16 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,812	Thanks guys. Mitchell... curious... being that you are in Australia, how are the prices for Australian fish and corals for you?

05/10/2009, 04:32 PM	#574
Sardaukar Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 1,439	Great tank! Just finished reading the whole thread and I want to second the earlier comment about how nice it is to see a build/update thread that actually includes the bad with the good. Its reassuring to read about beautiful tanks that work through algae problems, acro pests, fish deaths, ich, etc. Your tank is pretty much what I'm shooting for when I get the cash to return to this hobby: 4' tank, T5 lighting, vortechs and lots of wrasses Couple of quick questions. I take it the radiant survived that wound from the Kole? Does he have a scar and how well did it heal? Do you think the extra 6" of front to back would have been worth going for a 120 or are you pretty happy with the 90? __________________ Currently tank-less :(