my poor nemo

dnsfpl · 05/08/2009, 07:59 PM

it was trapped in the overflow compartment for a week before i manage to catch it and release back to the main tank
after this incident, it has been hiding 90% of the time, within the rock scape near the overflow
once awhile pop out to grab a few bites during feeding time

here is a top view of its hiding location
[img]http://i44.*******.com/2nocqv.jpg[/img]

can someone help my nemo please

thanks

jdieck · 05/08/2009, 08:24 PM

After being trapped in the overflow he might be just hiding from the light, just give it time.
If you had a pair the other one might not recognize it as the partner so watch for some agression, otherwise he will be OK.

dnsfpl · 05/08/2009, 08:28 PM

it has been like this for days

hopefully it can adapt asap

thanks

daudelus · 05/09/2009, 04:35 AM

It's a very good sign that it is taking food... I think it will eventually get its bravery back! good luck!

snorvich · 05/09/2009, 04:52 AM

What are your tank water parameters?

dnsfpl · 05/12/2009, 12:11 AM

still the same after a week

thankfully its eating

any ways pump up his guts?

dnsfpl · 05/12/2009, 01:27 AM

here is a short history

after cycling my 3x2x2 feet tank, i transfer my smaller percula(1") from my nano tank
2 weeks later bought a slightly bigger(1.5") percula
apart from small fight, everything seems pretty okay

got myself a pair of black percula(2") after 6 weeks
again small fight happens but still acceptable

then 1 day, the larger percula jump into the overflow
i manage to catch it a week later and release back to the main tank

after this incident, the larger percula keep hiding

the small percula is still happily swimming and fighting with the black pair thou

cheers

snorvich · 05/12/2009, 04:49 AM

Well, you have TWO sets of clowns in a small tank. That simply will not work. You will end up with ONE pair, maybe. Take out one pair and your problem will be solved. By the way, when I ask for water parameters, telling me the "same" does not cut it. You want help, please provide information. Mind reading is difficult.

dnsfpl · 05/15/2009, 12:31 AM

sorry my bad, the same refers to the situation

water parameter are as follows
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 25ppm
salinity 1.023
pH 8.4
temperature 28

dnsfpl · 05/15/2009, 12:36 AM

i notice whenever the hiding clown comes out, the black percula pair will chase after it
resulting back to its hiding place again

thinking of isolating the black pair in a breeder box for a week
can this solve the problem? will it stress the black pair?

thanks

becact · 05/15/2009, 12:53 AM

The problem was already told to you. You can only have ONE pair of clowns in a tank your size, or in most any tank except very large ones. Selling one pair is the only way to solve your problem. They are very territorial and will fight until the weaker pair is killed! And all will probably be injured. Your hiding fish is extremely stressed, it would be cruel not to remove him.

dnsfpl · 05/15/2009, 01:13 AM

my tank is 3x2x2 feet, 90g

is it too small for 2 pair of clowns?

thanks

ba_reefer · 05/15/2009, 01:21 AM

it should be fine for two clowns how big are they i had them in a 50 gal before

becact · 05/15/2009, 02:01 AM

Yes, it is too small for two pair.

ba-reefer: he has two pair of clowns, which means 4.

dnsfpl · 05/15/2009, 02:02 AM

the black pair is 2"
the orange is 1" & 1.5"

becact · 05/15/2009, 02:07 AM

I'll say it again. Your tank is too small for two pair of clowns. It doesn't matter how large the fish are.

dnsfpl · 05/15/2009, 02:28 AM

i love all 4 of them

does putting in an anemone helps? as 1 of the pair will host while the other wanders about?

cheers

ludnix · 05/15/2009, 03:54 AM

I had a flame hawk in an overflow box for about 4 days and a lawn mower blenny for a month. Both started acting normal after a while.

snorvich · 05/15/2009, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by becact
I'll say it again. Your tank is too small for two pair of clowns. It doesn't matter how large the fish are.

That is the way it is. Two will be killed unless they are removed. It will take a while, but it will happen. An anemone will possibly make it worse rather than better. Basically, you shot yourself in the foot by adding TWO pairs of clowns to a SMALL tank.

BigJay · 05/15/2009, 07:38 AM

Is there any way you can put one pair of clowns back into your nano tank?

Then you will have four happy clownfish.

CeeGee · 05/15/2009, 08:16 AM

Take one pair of the clowns out and the problem is solved. It is that simple. I love dogs but I know that I can only care for the two that I have. That is the reason I don't have four of them. Not trying to be a jerk. This is a simple solution. As simple as it gets in a reef tank.

Macimage · 05/15/2009, 09:59 AM

There have been numerous posts that your problem is that you have two pairs, however, it doesn't sound like you want to hear or believe anyone, but it's true.

dnsfpl · 05/15/2009, 10:57 AM

to be honest, i am trying to find a solution rather than remove 1 pair

i love both the pair, so do my family members

everything was alright before the jump to overflow

PS i only have a tank, decomm my nano last month

Ohiomom · 05/15/2009, 11:23 AM

Just an fyi..there is NO solution..especially if they are juveniles..it may take 6 months or so but sooner or later one pair WILL kill the other in that size tank..as they mature they become MUCH more territorial. Course we all make choices.

Ohiomom · 05/15/2009, 11:25 AM

p.s. I am not trying to be judgemental..we all make mistakes..but when I made my mistake in the choice of fish I gave them away for free to someone who had a tank that could support the fish..that is what I meant by choices and such.

05/08/2009, 07:59 PM	#1
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	my poor nemo it was trapped in the overflow compartment for a week before i manage to catch it and release back to the main tank after this incident, it has been hiding 90% of the time, within the rock scape near the overflow once awhile pop out to grab a few bites during feeding time here is a top view of its hiding location [img]http://i44.*******.com/2nocqv.jpg[/img] can someone help my nemo please thanks

05/08/2009, 08:24 PM	#2
jdieck Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maumee, OH Posts: 15,673	After being trapped in the overflow he might be just hiding from the light, just give it time. If you had a pair the other one might not recognize it as the partner so watch for some agression, otherwise he will be OK. __________________ Did I write what I wrote? What the heck am I talking about! Well..... Nevermind. Current Tank Info: 225 gal reef, DSB, 40 g sump w/ LRT100 return, 37 g pre-sump, 3 MH 250 W 15K, 4 96 W PC dual actinic,ETS 1500 Skim.w/LRT70, 20 lb Ca R., 40 W UV, 1/3 HP chiller, two 350 W Htrs, Neptune II Cont., 330 P LR/ 330 P LS. 55 gal Refugium

05/08/2009, 08:28 PM	#3
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	it has been like this for days hopefully it can adapt asap thanks __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/09/2009, 04:35 AM	#4
daudelus Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Elizabethtown, PA Posts: 177	It's a very good sign that it is taking food... I think it will eventually get its bravery back! good luck! __________________ ------------------------- 55g long mixed reef. 60lbs LR, 2 x 150 HQI 15k MH, BH 1000 Octopus HOB Skimmer, Sumpless, 2x Hydor Koralia 3s + 1x Hydor Koralia 1, HOB filter for Carbon.

05/09/2009, 04:52 AM	#5
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	What are your tank water parameters? __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

05/12/2009, 12:11 AM	#6
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	still the same after a week thankfully its eating any ways pump up his guts? __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/12/2009, 01:27 AM	#7
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	here is a short history after cycling my 3x2x2 feet tank, i transfer my smaller percula(1") from my nano tank 2 weeks later bought a slightly bigger(1.5") percula apart from small fight, everything seems pretty okay got myself a pair of black percula(2") after 6 weeks again small fight happens but still acceptable then 1 day, the larger percula jump into the overflow i manage to catch it a week later and release back to the main tank after this incident, the larger percula keep hiding the small percula is still happily swimming and fighting with the black pair thou cheers __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/12/2009, 04:49 AM	#8
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Well, you have TWO sets of clowns in a small tank. That simply will not work. You will end up with ONE pair, maybe. Take out one pair and your problem will be solved. By the way, when I ask for water parameters, telling me the "same" does not cut it. You want help, please provide information. Mind reading is difficult. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

05/15/2009, 12:31 AM	#9
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	sorry my bad, the same refers to the situation water parameter are as follows ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 25ppm salinity 1.023 pH 8.4 temperature 28 __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/15/2009, 12:36 AM	#10
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	i notice whenever the hiding clown comes out, the black percula pair will chase after it resulting back to its hiding place again thinking of isolating the black pair in a breeder box for a week can this solve the problem? will it stress the black pair? thanks __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/15/2009, 12:53 AM	#11
becact Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 550	The problem was already told to you. You can only have ONE pair of clowns in a tank your size, or in most any tank except very large ones. Selling one pair is the only way to solve your problem. They are very territorial and will fight until the weaker pair is killed! And all will probably be injured. Your hiding fish is extremely stressed, it would be cruel not to remove him.

05/15/2009, 01:13 AM	#12
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	my tank is 3x2x2 feet, 90g is it too small for 2 pair of clowns? thanks __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/15/2009, 01:21 AM	#13
ba_reefer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7	it should be fine for two clowns how big are they i had them in a 50 gal before

05/15/2009, 02:01 AM	#14
becact Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 550	Yes, it is too small for two pair. ba-reefer: he has two pair of clowns, which means 4.

05/15/2009, 02:02 AM	#15
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	the black pair is 2" the orange is 1" & 1.5" __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/15/2009, 02:07 AM	#16
becact Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 550	I'll say it again. Your tank is too small for two pair of clowns. It doesn't matter how large the fish are.

05/15/2009, 02:28 AM	#17
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	i love all 4 of them does putting in an anemone helps? as 1 of the pair will host while the other wanders about? cheers __________________ Achilles Tang \| Bandit, 2 x False Shepardi Angelfish \| Cleaner, Flame & Mystery Wrasse

05/15/2009, 03:54 AM	#18
ludnix Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,031	I had a flame hawk in an overflow box for about 4 days and a lawn mower blenny for a month. Both started acting normal after a while. __________________ -Eric Sutter Current Tank Info: 14g Biocube

05/15/2009, 07:38 AM	#20
BigJay Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southlake, Texas Posts: 1,872	Is there any way you can put one pair of clowns back into your nano tank? Then you will have four happy clownfish. __________________ PBITAWA

05/15/2009, 08:16 AM	#21
CeeGee Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 3,272	Take one pair of the clowns out and the problem is solved. It is that simple. I love dogs but I know that I can only care for the two that I have. That is the reason I don't have four of them. Not trying to be a jerk. This is a simple solution. As simple as it gets in a reef tank. __________________ My algae WAS special. Current Tank Info: 75 gallon display, 40 gallon breeder sump, RLSS R6i, ATI Powermodule, Apex, Ecotech MP40's

05/15/2009, 09:59 AM	#22
Macimage Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Quartz Hill Posts: 4,078	There have been numerous posts that your problem is that you have two pairs, however, it doesn't sound like you want to hear or believe anyone, but it's true.

05/15/2009, 10:57 AM	#23
dnsfpl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,121	to be honest, i am trying to find a solution rather than remove 1 pair i love both the pair, so do my family members everything was alright before the jump to overflow PS i only have a tank, decomm my nano last month

05/15/2009, 11:23 AM	#24
Ohiomom Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,586	Just an fyi..there is NO solution..especially if they are juveniles..it may take 6 months or so but sooner or later one pair WILL kill the other in that size tank..as they mature they become MUCH more territorial. Course we all make choices. __________________ .....Sandra “Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.” Current Tank Info: 75 galllon reef, T5HO love em!

05/15/2009, 11:25 AM	#25
Ohiomom Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,586	p.s. I am not trying to be judgemental..we all make mistakes..but when I made my mistake in the choice of fish I gave them away for free to someone who had a tank that could support the fish..that is what I meant by choices and such. __________________ .....Sandra “Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.” Current Tank Info: 75 galllon reef, T5HO love em!