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Unread 05/23/2009, 05:45 AM   #301
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I decided to finally to a build thread:

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Unread 05/23/2009, 05:53 AM   #302
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yep very impressive scott, im suprised actually you never did one before especially as you do use the blogs here.

i use my blog as my home page, you could do the same and link the capn's log to the home page so your tank and the logs are redily available to us all, nice work.


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Unread 05/23/2009, 06:00 AM   #303
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yep very impressive scott, im suprised actually you never did one before especially as you do use the blogs here.

i use my blog as my home page, you could do the same and link the capn's log to the home page so your tank and the logs are redily available to us all, nice work.
I believe I have done that

http://home.sourcecable.net/~syager/


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Unread 05/23/2009, 06:03 AM   #304
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lol, i should have clicked your red house before my comment ha ha.

thats a great web page, i may look into something like that myself as well.


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Unread 05/23/2009, 06:11 AM   #305
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lol, i should have clicked your red house before my comment ha ha.

thats a great web page, i may look into something like that myself as well.
Thanks for the cudos--esp from a well respected peer.
I just started last week---a 120 gal that was absolutely loaded with bryopsis.
Looking forward to this business venture--its something I thorougly enjoy.
With my teaching experience---I also teach my clients what to do as I service the tanks--something that is not done very much by LFS's.


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Unread 05/23/2009, 09:28 AM   #306
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using epsom salts is not a long term solution to raising mag levels. Long term use has the possibility of building hydrogen sulfide up in deep sand beds which is not a good thing for fish.

I am just dosing with it until I get rid of the last IO salt mix
which I have checked out with the chemistry guys as being okay to do temporarily. [/B]
Hey cap, I also use IO, I've been doseing epsom salt to my NSW (and calcium-iodine) that I make (30 gal every 2 week's) for about 6 month's now, I dont dose my main, just my NSW. I do at least two gal a day water change's. Do you think if done this way, the 1 1/2 cup's of epsom salt that I add to my NSW has so long to dissolve, that it is less possible of building hydrogen sulfide in the sand bed (Mine is about 3in ) or am I way off. Thank's.


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Unread 05/23/2009, 12:17 PM   #307
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I also teach my clients what to do as I service the tanks--something that is not done very much by LFS's.
Careful Capn, for a business that may hurt in the long run. You'll find that they may not need you anymore. but I agree with sharing your knowledge with the masses. you definitely are a wealth of knowledge, and not sharing it would be unethical!!


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Unread 05/23/2009, 04:12 PM   #308
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Hey cap, I also use IO, I've been doseing epsom salt to my NSW (and calcium-iodine) that I make (30 gal every 2 week's) for about 6 month's now, I dont dose my main, just my NSW. I do at least two gal a day water change's. Do you think if done this way, the 1 1/2 cup's of epsom salt that I add to my NSW has so long to dissolve, that it is less possible of building hydrogen sulfide in the sand bed (Mine is about 3in ) or am I way off. Thank's.
Randy has written an article on hydrogen sulfide:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-12/rhf/index.php

Adding Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate heptaydrate) to boost magnesium, for example, raises sulfate more than it does magnesium. Likewise, adding calcium chloride to boost calcium reduces sulfate if salinity is maintained. Nevertheless, so much sulfate is present in seawater that

such changes occur slowly over time.


Under anoxic conditions (ORP less than about 0 mV) some bacteria can use sulfate to metabolize organic material, producing hydrogen sulfide (H2S) as a byproduct (Figure 1, middle bottom). Hydrogen sulfide is the most reduced form of sulfur present in seawater, and areas of negative redox values are known as reducing zones. In reef aquaria the reduction of sulfate can occur in many places, such as under sand or inside live rock. It also can take place in denitrators if their flow is low enough that the nitrate is depleted while organic material is still available for decomposition.

Hydrogen sulfide produced in anoxic regions can produce several possible outcomes. One is to diffuse into more oxic (aerobic) regions, even into the water column itself, where it can be toxic to organisms. In the water column it can be oxidized to sulfate or other sulfur species (elemental sulfur (S), sulfite (SO3-) and others; Figure 1, right). Such oxidation reactions are catalyzed both by soluble metals such as iron and by light. Hydrogen sulfide also can combine with metals such as iron (Fe++) to precipitate as black iron sulfide (Figure 1 bottom; FeS and FeS2). This blackness is the telltale sign of hydrogen sulfide formation that can be seen in anoxic seawater sediments, although similar appearing black precipitates may be formed from other materials."

However when I suggested I was doing it until I got rid of half a pail of IO mix, I was told that would be okay

I just bought a pail of H2Ocean---magnesium is about 1350 in there so I won't need to dose mag anymore


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Unread 05/24/2009, 05:03 AM   #309
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O.K. Thank's Cap. You Gotta love Randy spin1 What would we do without him thumbsup. I guess I'm gonna have to look for some other supplement to raise mag. Any suggestion's. Thank's.


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O.K. Thank's Cap. You Gotta love Randy spin1 What would we do without him thumbsup. I guess I'm gonna have to look for some other supplement to raise mag. Any suggestion's. Thank's.
I just switched to h2oceanic:
it is just 20 dollars more than Instant Ocean and look at the stats:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1287118


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Unread 05/24/2009, 07:57 AM   #311
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Capn, yesterday I collected some nice cold Atlantic ocean water.
It was full of seaweed and sand because I collected it from the surf, but my fish are in for a nice surprise on Memorial Day.

Speaking of memorial Day, lets all remember what this special day was created for.

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Good choice, if I was gonna switch, that would be the one. But for me, my LFS is right around the corner, they dont have much, but I get a pretty good deal on all my supplies. That's the chart I used to compare my test, then the reef calculator to make my NSW. So in my case, I need to dose something other than Epsom Salt to raise my Mag. I'll do a little research on that. Thank's again Cap.


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Good choice, if I was gonna switch, that would be the one. But for me, my LFS is right around the corner, they dont have much, but I get a pretty good deal on all my supplies. That's the chart I used to compare my test, then the reef calculator to make my NSW. So in my case, I need to dose something other than Epsom Salt to raise my Mag. I'll do a little research on that. Thank's again Cap.
I used the Kent T-M for magnesium before using the epsom salts

you might consider using the epsom salts to bring the mag up to the desired levels and then maintain it with tech M since it takes alot to move the level of mag up but little to maintain the level.

I was doing a 40 gal water change every two weeks with IO and that was what was throwing off my mag level so quickly


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yep very impressive scott, im suprised actually you never did one before especially as you do use the blogs here.

i use my blog as my home page, you could do the same and link the capn's log to the home page so your tank and the logs are redily available to us all, nice work.
send me the link to your blogs Michael and I will add them to my site.


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Capn, yesterday I collected some nice cold Atlantic ocean water.
It was full of seaweed and sand because I collected it from the surf, but my fish are in for a nice surprise on Memorial Day.

Speaking of memorial Day, lets all remember what this special day was created for.

Have a great Holiday
we are remembering in this house Paul




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Unread 05/24/2009, 06:01 PM   #316
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I love your kids and I salute them.

Capn do you want to buy some nice "carpet Mojanos" I mean anemones?

This mojano split twice and they are the largest mojanos I have ever seen at about 2" tall. this one has been in the same place for a year or two and we have an understanding so I let them live as long as they behave. The one on the right is learning to play the piano.



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Capn do you want to buy some nice "carpet Mojanos" I mean anemones?

This mojano split twice and they are the largest mojanos I have ever seen at about 2" tall. this one has been in the same place for a year or two and we have an understanding so I let them live as long as they behave. The one on the right is learning to play the piano.
Thanks PaulI have over 25 of them in my 40gal frag tank. If they come with a quart of Manhattan Mud then I might consider your offer

Do these guys attack other corals like the bubble tips and condys

So far I've kept them out of the display tank system but I have one rock that is covered like yours that really looks nice


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thanks Paul--my daughter, the lieutenant has just been posted at CFB Kingston. My son-in-law has been in Serbia and Afghanistan and presently on a crisis/disaster team that can head out anytime to any place in the world.

That's another facet of the Canadian and American forces that the rest of the world should celebrate on Memorial Day---the support and aid our guys give when disaster or crises occurs


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Not as long as you don't let them get weapons of mass destruction


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That's another facet of the Canadian and American forces that the rest of the world should celebrate on Memorial Day---the support and aid our guys give when disaster or crises occurs
+1 we appreciate you guys over here very much thats for sure


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Do these guys attack other corals like the bubble tips and condys

So far I've kept them out of the display tank system but I have one rock that is covered like yours that really looks nice
They will sting nearby corals and inverts and the sting is pretty potent. I had quite a few (10-15) in my 180 and was worried about them taking over. I do like how they look and removed all but a few that were isolated and hadn't moved. If you want to remove them, don't try to kill them! IME they just split and moved after trying the recommended 101 different methods of killing them (none of which were effective at actually killing them!) Just put some rock rubble right over the top of them. Lightly glue it in place with some super glue if you have to (my urchin and hermits kept knocking the little pieces of rock over and off of the mojanos). The mojano's are pretty dependant on light so they will eventually crawl out on top of the rubble and you can then easily remove them by pulling out the peices of rubble.

Unfortuanately this little trick doesn't work so well for apitasia since they aren't as dependant on light as mojanos.

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They will sting nearby corals and inverts and the sting is pretty potent. I had quite a few (10-15) in my 180 and was worried about them taking over. I do like how they look and removed all but a few that were isolated and hadn't moved. If you want to remove them, don't try to kill them! IME they just split and moved after trying the recommended 101 different methods of killing them (none of which were effective at actually killing them!) Just put some rock rubble right over the top of them. Lightly glue it in place with some super glue if you have to (my urchin and hermits kept knocking the little pieces of rock over and off of the mojanos). The mojano's are pretty dependant on light so they will eventually crawl out on top of the rubble and you can then easily remove them by pulling out the peices of rubble.

Unfortuanately this little trick doesn't work so well for apitasia since they aren't as dependant on light as mojanos.

Jeremy
thanks Jeremy and thanks for the tip for controlling them in my frag tank.

I know that joes juice doesn't work on them like the aptasia does


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I ran some test today with API kits.

SGC - 1.026
dKH - 10
CAL - 520+
PH - 8.1 Meter Read
NO3 - 5.0
PO4 - 0

I can't find a way how to calculate a lower dosage of the B-Ionic. Cal is pretty high should I cut my dosing in half? Started dosing at 25ml. Am I over dosing? My tank is a 90 gal with 40 gal sump with no less than 20 gal of water in it. What would my tank and sump volume be. I think I'm missing something on the calculator



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