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Unread 07/01/2009, 05:08 PM   #26
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Paul, I was reading your thread and saw the Bumble Bee Goby, and hope to trade out the black clowns with 2 of these guys, I went to live aquaria to check them out in the brackish water section and noticed the prehistoric dragon goby and was wondering if anyone knows if those can also be kept in salt water? Paul your tank is awesome. And you definitely know what you’re doing to keep it going for over 35 years. And I have already dismissed the addition of the Catalina because they like colder waters 50's to 60's


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Unread 07/01/2009, 06:32 PM   #27
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I was going to add a dragon gobi but they get too large for what I like
I think they would do fine though if you like them


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Unread 07/01/2009, 06:50 PM   #28
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Paul B - 4th picture down, the red/white wheeler goby..... What does his eyes look like? take a look real close if you can, ll angles. Are they clear? Mine look cloudy in my DT. I did not notice them in the QT and now he bolted into the rock work. If it is flukes i am gonna be ****ed as i passed on the prazi treatment. I wanted to ask but i did not think anyone had one, so, if you dont mind doing me a favor....

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Unread 07/02/2009, 03:47 AM   #29
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I have to wait until the lights come on about 10:00am
I am sure they would be clear, cloudy eyes are a bacterial infection usually seen with either flukes, ich, or a number of other maladys.
In this picture they don't really look real clear though.






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Unread 07/02/2009, 06:54 AM   #30
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Mine was in hypo, so, I would be suprised if it was flukes. Thats why I was thinking it just may be a/the gobies genetic trait to have not so clear eyes, but, all other fish have clear eyes, sooooo....

Only way to find out is to ask somoene that has had one for a while, lol.

Yea, when you get a chance to check him out, would appreciate it, thanks.

Update on the rest... Green clowns are MIA for the most part. I saw one scoot up and over some rocks yesterday but that was the last sighting. Maybe if you get 10 green ones, you might see them more often as they move around . Yellows hang out with each other 50% of the time. The other time they just go thier ways.


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Unread 07/02/2009, 01:29 PM   #31
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Fair enough. Definitely look into some damsels/chromis though - not all are aggressive, there are a few more that would be okay that I can't think of off the top of my head. And as far as the cardinals - yeah, they mostly do the hovering thing as opposed to active swimming. But they do have some diversity in body form. Check out the differences between these types of cardinals: banggai, red stoplight, orangelined, longspine.

I just feel like your current list is going to look like an empty tank to most people.


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Unread 07/02/2009, 01:49 PM   #32
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Fair enough. Definitely look into some damsels/chromis though - not all are aggressive, there are a few more that would be okay that I can't think of off the top of my head. And as far as the cardinals - yeah, they mostly do the hovering thing as opposed to active swimming. But they do have some diversity in body form. Check out the differences between these types of cardinals: banggai, red stoplight, orangelined, longspine.

I just feel like your current list is going to look like an empty tank to most people.
I was looking at the orange lined last night and I actually kind of like it, every time I think of one though I picture a P-J in my head. I’ve been looking into damsels to lately. I appreciate you swaying my opinion on other species of fish. Without you I may have been closed minded for a few more years


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Unread 07/02/2009, 03:25 PM   #33
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I like your idea, I have a 92 corner, I have one or two med to big fish, the rest are tiny gobies, blennys, firefish, sml wrasses & a pair of clowns!! I dont really have territory issues nor should you if you provide several places for them to hide in. Please keep us posted & post up pics when you have your tank stocked...


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Unread 07/02/2009, 06:13 PM   #34
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Sikpupy, bad news. Mine has very black, very clear eyes. He is starring at me and smilling even as we speak, (or type)


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Unread 07/02/2009, 07:12 PM   #35
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lol, greeeat! Tell him I said hey . I plucked mine out last night (was in for a day) and have him back in QT. I hope 1 day was not enough to transfer anything if he did have something.

Thanks for looking and getting back to me, I appreciate it.


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Unread 07/02/2009, 07:47 PM   #36
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lol, greeeat! Tell him I said hey . I plucked mine out last night (was in for a day) and have him back in QT. I hope 1 day was not enough to transfer anything if he did have something.

Thanks for looking and getting back to me, I appreciate it.
I hope everything works out for ya, between yours and Pauls experience with the greens hiding and not so long lived we are thinking a pair of helfrichi's now


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Unread 07/02/2009, 08:13 PM   #37
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I would still get 4-6 green gobies, there only $7 each, lol.


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Unread 07/02/2009, 08:27 PM   #38
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we'll poder the thought. i dont think clown gobie's contribute to much to the bio load


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Unread 07/02/2009, 08:52 PM   #39
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I like your idea, I have a 92 corner, I have one or two med to big fish, the rest are tiny gobies, blennys, firefish, sml wrasses & a pair of clowns!! I dont really have territory issues nor should you if you provide several places for them to hide in. Please keep us posted & post up pics when you have your tank stocked...
It’ll be a while yet, but I’ll update as soon as it gets reasonable stocked. Or maybe sooner...


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Unread 07/03/2009, 08:15 AM   #40
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I think with a pair of helfrichis, one will kill the other. People on a breeding site I go to have had a lot of trouble getting pairs - sometimes even after pairing up and spawning, they will still fight to the death.


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I think with a pair of helfrichis, one will kill the other. People on a breeding site I go to have had a lot of trouble getting pairs - sometimes even after pairing up and spawning, they will still fight to the death.
A friend of mine had a pair of them before he moved, I think he only had them a year maybe a year and a half with no skirmish's. He bought them as a mated pair from Live Aquaria I believe. But then again that is only one experience. I appreciate in your insight and advice.


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Unread 07/04/2009, 10:36 AM   #42
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I have a green clown goby, and he is always out and about. He is in a 24 gallon, though, with a firefish, a fairy wrasse, a Randall's goby (which is a beautiful goby, by the way)... He is a real good eater, taking mysis and enriched brine. But I haven't been successful getting another one settled into the tank. Its a shame, because I love them.

I love the red head gobies as well.

But remember, fish aren't just their looks. I love my Springer's dottyback. Captive bred, Red Sea dottybacks are not aggressive, and they have very interesting swimming habits and personalities. My Springer's is an awesome fish.

I also have two copper/red-stripe cardinalfish. They have a silver body, and are very peaceful. I have a pair. They are great fish.

My longfin fairy wrasse is a bit smaller than some of the other fairys, and it has a beautiful red color with a nice electric blue line and that nice long filamented dorsal fin.

As for chromis, the small Vanderbilt's chromis has a subtle but beautiful color and is very peaceful.


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Unread 07/04/2009, 05:13 PM   #43
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Elysia, thank you for your insight. the green clowns are still a toss up for us. and we're still not sure if we wanna add a pseudochromis to the tank or not.


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Unread 07/04/2009, 05:26 PM   #44
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here are some pics... I know its kinda crappy so far but here they are any ways

FTS. I should say ETS



sump/fuge 30 gallon (notice the lines I put on there so the GF doesnt over fill or let it get to low) thats ultra high tech!



and skimmer. i'm happy as I picked up the skimmer body an Eshopps 100 (i think) only paid 10 for the body and modded an aqua clear 901 power head. I put a line on there to mark the water level, theres roughly 250 300 GPH going through the skimmer as I have the intake for water throttled back




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Unread 07/09/2009, 04:18 PM   #45
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The skimmer body is an Ehopps 150 5" x 22" I know not the greatest, but I was able to build a skimmer for 15 bucks.

Anyways, The girlfreind woke me up this morning begging me to take her to Foster & Smith. the plan was to get a few power heads for the 75, a 10 gallon tank for a QT, Or some silicone to reseal my 20, and order 2 panda clown gobies and 2 citron clown gobies. but when we got there she saw 2 yellow clown gobies and 2 green clown gobies and had to have em. so now i got the 10 gallon up with the lil guys in there. pics. . .








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Unread 07/09/2009, 05:04 PM   #46
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I like gobies a lot, don't know if I'd want that many clowns tho! You should check out a Randall's goby. That's mine in my avatar.


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Unread 07/10/2009, 03:31 AM   #47
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I like gobies a lot, don't know if I'd want that many clowns tho! You should check out a Randall's goby. That's mine in my avatar.
I dont think 8 clown gobies are to many, I know our next purchase is going to be a yasha goby and a red stripe pistol shrimp. I hope any ways, but thats at least a month away and can change at any time. and randalls gobies are cool I know I like em.


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Unread 07/17/2009, 08:10 PM   #48
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Ok today i noticed some white-ish yellow-ish spots on the 2 yellow gobies, and in my little bit of research have determined it to be a parasitic copepod. right now i'm in the process of slowly lowering my salinity for hypo... any other input would be appreciated especialy on how to eradicate them. thanks!

I'll try and get better pics later






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Unread 07/17/2009, 09:16 PM   #49
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Bummer on the white spots Some people would say treat with copper but you'll get many differing opinions on that too.


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Unread 07/17/2009, 10:02 PM   #50
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If you get a psudo, my god help you. They will chase anything and just about everything in the tank.

You want mine? fat and plump ready for a good home.



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