New fish for my fish list

Bdimas · 08/16/2009, 08:35 PM

Ok so i was talking with Jacob today about what fish im going to put in my tank. Right now i have a couple that are on the top of my list. They are the Flame Angel and a Mystery Wrasse. I was looking on Blue Zoo Aquatics and i think i found another winner. Im going to do some more research on it also. Its the Centropyge Venustus.
http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/produ...&pid=189&cid=9

jeff209 · 08/16/2009, 08:48 PM

BALLIN!!!!!!!

Jacob D · 08/16/2009, 08:50 PM

The paracentropyges are all really attractive. I have never kept any but have kicked around the idea of the venustus as well as multifasciata. It sounded to me that the concensus on them (all) is they can be tough to feed. They also get pretty big as small angels go.

Maybe you can score a P. boylei... or how about one possibly even harder to find... one of these hybrids! http://glassbox-design.com/2008/rare...us-x-venustus/

What do you think about bellus angels? Just wondering.

Bdimas · 08/16/2009, 09:18 PM

Ive also been kicking the multifasciata around for a couple years. Im not sure what the P. boylei costs but i bet its out of my price range. LOL. Beautiful specimen though!

Jacob D · 08/16/2009, 10:34 PM

Well, if you try the venustus and have success I might try a multifasciata sometime down the road

Bdimas · 08/16/2009, 11:10 PM

I didn't see your reply about the Bellus angels. I like their body shape but I want something with more color.

Jacob D · 08/16/2009, 11:41 PM

C. potteri is also a pretty one, especially the males, but also somewhat fragile. There is an awesome all blue morph but thats another one we'll have to dream about.

I don't think you or I will ever be lucky enough to have a shot at P. boylei (oldschool rare, I'd bet if one was collected $10k USD+), any of the paracentropyge hybrids or the blue potters, but that one might be the most feasible of them

Bdimas · 08/17/2009, 07:42 AM

Yeah the potters are very cool too. If you buy a P. Boylei ill pay for shipping!

bbl_nk · 08/17/2009, 11:25 AM

Or then there was this hybrid beauty that only went for $1,500:

http://www.reefbuilders.com/2009/07/...bli-tigerpyge/

Bdimas · 08/17/2009, 11:58 AM

You guys must want me to die or be homeless! LOL! Yeah i saw that hybrid a while back, it's one of the nicest imo.

Jacob D · 08/17/2009, 01:02 PM

A 16 y/o kid owns it that one, his grandfather purchased it for him. Even with a couple of grand in your pocket you can't get one unless another happens to show up, and since this is the first ever... I doubt it

For close to that money you can get wild C. interruptus, and if RCT opens up again (rumor is sometime in 2010) you can can get some captive raised interruptus... that would be the ticket! I don't know if you remember Maximus from the bay area... he had a PAIR of RCT interruptus

Jacob D · 08/17/2009, 01:14 PM

Centropyge collini is an uncommon/rare pygmy that can be had for decent money and is also very pretty. I haven't seen one for sale in a while, but I'm thinking ~ $200 ...not too bad.

Bdimas · 08/17/2009, 01:35 PM

Yup i remember maximus' interruptus. Those were sweet! Im going to try and limit myself to the $200 range. Im still open to suggestions so keep em coming! I figure im not going to purchase a nice, expensive or rare fish for a while still.

bbl_nk · 08/17/2009, 04:04 PM

I got to see this one at IMAC, didn't get a price though. Quality Marine had and awesome cube tank setup with lots of rare and amazing fish!

http://www.reefbuilders.com/2009/08/...lay-imac-west/

jeff209 · 08/17/2009, 06:07 PM

Bryan D is your job hiring ? My fish money limit is 80. I need to work wit you. Lol

Bdimas · 08/17/2009, 06:43 PM

Lol! You need to go work at my wifes job!

bbl_nk · 08/17/2009, 07:01 PM

Jeff, I'm with you on the $80. There are so many beautiful fish I'd love to have but have a limit on what I'd spend and most of it is hinged on my comfort level on what I can keep alive

Maybe in 20 years when I've been there, done that enough

jeff209 · 08/17/2009, 10:27 PM

Man what's her limit

Bdimas · 08/17/2009, 11:00 PM

lol. Na she keeps my spending in check. This is really my only hobby and you only live once. Believe me if i had the dough i would have a much nicer system.

jeff209 · 08/17/2009, 11:54 PM

Wouldn't we all

brianbigoats · 08/17/2009, 11:58 PM

Jake
I am glad that RCT is going to reopen I have been trying to wait to get a interruptus for a while my friend Alicia has a pair of there hybrids they are sweet

Jacob D · 08/18/2009, 12:15 AM

If people put as much effort into the husbandry of their fish as they do their corals I think they would quickly realize that fish are much easier to care for and have success with compared to many corals.

The only thing the cost has to do with is whether or not you can afford it (whether it's a fish or a new stereo etc...). The money spent is easily forgotten once I set my eyes on my new fish and begin to take care of them. I have never regretted purchasing a fish from a monetary standpoint, and when I watch them swimming around my tank the cost of them never occurs to me. If you look at your fish or corals and see dollar signs, you really should find another hobby

I think too many people set imaginary price boundaries on fish because they look at fish as a gamble due to less than the best fish husbandry on their part (whether knowingly or not). Unfortunately fish get less attention in a reef more often than they deserve. The most important thing is doing homework on every purchase - husbandry starts before the money crosses the counter no matter how much or little a fish costs.

Some of the fish we're talking about here are on the touchy side, same goes for putting multiple centropyges in the same tank, but those should be a calculated risks (I say should be because we should have done our homework and understand the risk) and that's really a different topic when it comes to price.

Now... everyone who just read this should be starting your fish fund. Put a little away so when the opportunity arises you are ready to pull the trigger and don't have to ask the boss if it's ok to dip into savings

Jacob D · 08/18/2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by brianbigoats
Jake
I am glad that RCT is going to reopen I have been trying to wait to get a interruptus for a while my friend Alicia has a pair of there hybrids they are sweet

I don't have any inside info on this, just the rumor mill. So please don't quote me as saying RCT is on again

. The captive raised interruptus are amazing, and best of all they can tolerate the warm temps of our tanks. If Frank gets his program going again I may have to start saving my pennies too. For now I have my C. aurantius and that will be the only dwarf angel.

Which hybrids does Alicia have?

Bdimas · 08/18/2009, 08:22 AM

Well said Jake. That's exactly why I'm planning now on what "centerpiece" fish I want.

Whacked · 08/18/2009, 09:57 AM

those are some awesome fish

08/16/2009, 08:35 PM	#1
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	New fish for my fish list Ok so i was talking with Jacob today about what fish im going to put in my tank. Right now i have a couple that are on the top of my list. They are the Flame Angel and a Mystery Wrasse. I was looking on Blue Zoo Aquatics and i think i found another winner. Im going to do some more research on it also. Its the Centropyge Venustus. http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/produ...&pid=189&cid=9

08/16/2009, 08:48 PM	#2
jeff209 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stockton CA Posts: 1,816	BALLIN!!!!!!! __________________ "that fish needs at least a180 gallon to be happy" "so me buying it from a lfs that has it in a 20 won't help" -Jeff Current Tank Info: 120 in the works

08/16/2009, 08:50 PM	#3
Jacob D Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Bay Posts: 6,613	The paracentropyges are all really attractive. I have never kept any but have kicked around the idea of the venustus as well as multifasciata. It sounded to me that the concensus on them (all) is they can be tough to feed. They also get pretty big as small angels go. Maybe you can score a P. boylei... or how about one possibly even harder to find... one of these hybrids! http://glassbox-design.com/2008/rare...us-x-venustus/ What do you think about bellus angels? Just wondering. __________________ Jacob. Current Tank Info: Retired from reefing...

08/16/2009, 09:18 PM	#4
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	Ive also been kicking the multifasciata around for a couple years. Im not sure what the P. boylei costs but i bet its out of my price range. LOL. Beautiful specimen though! __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/16/2009, 10:34 PM	#5
Jacob D Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Bay Posts: 6,613	Well, if you try the venustus and have success I might try a multifasciata sometime down the road __________________ Jacob. Current Tank Info: Retired from reefing...

08/16/2009, 11:10 PM	#6
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	I didn't see your reply about the Bellus angels. I like their body shape but I want something with more color. __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/16/2009, 11:41 PM	#7
Jacob D Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Bay Posts: 6,613	C. potteri is also a pretty one, especially the males, but also somewhat fragile. There is an awesome all blue morph but thats another one we'll have to dream about. I don't think you or I will ever be lucky enough to have a shot at P. boylei (oldschool rare, I'd bet if one was collected $10k USD+), any of the paracentropyge hybrids or the blue potters, but that one might be the most feasible of them __________________ Jacob. Current Tank Info: Retired from reefing...

08/17/2009, 07:42 AM	#8
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	Yeah the potters are very cool too. If you buy a P. Boylei ill pay for shipping! __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/17/2009, 11:25 AM	#9
bbl_nk Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CA Posts: 743	Or then there was this hybrid beauty that only went for $1,500: http://www.reefbuilders.com/2009/07/...bli-tigerpyge/ __________________ Brian I'm hooked on DIY! It's all about Blue-Collar Reefing! Current Tank Info: 75g Palau Reef in the Making

08/17/2009, 11:58 AM	#10
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	You guys must want me to die or be homeless! LOL! Yeah i saw that hybrid a while back, it's one of the nicest imo. __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/17/2009, 01:02 PM	#11
Jacob D Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Bay Posts: 6,613	A 16 y/o kid owns it that one, his grandfather purchased it for him. Even with a couple of grand in your pocket you can't get one unless another happens to show up, and since this is the first ever... I doubt it For close to that money you can get wild C. interruptus, and if RCT opens up again (rumor is sometime in 2010) you can can get some captive raised interruptus... that would be the ticket! I don't know if you remember Maximus from the bay area... he had a PAIR of RCT interruptus __________________ Jacob. Current Tank Info: Retired from reefing...

08/17/2009, 01:14 PM	#12
Jacob D Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Bay Posts: 6,613	Centropyge collini is an uncommon/rare pygmy that can be had for decent money and is also very pretty. I haven't seen one for sale in a while, but I'm thinking ~ $200 ...not too bad. __________________ Jacob. Current Tank Info: Retired from reefing...

08/17/2009, 01:35 PM	#13
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	Yup i remember maximus' interruptus. Those were sweet! Im going to try and limit myself to the $200 range. Im still open to suggestions so keep em coming! I figure im not going to purchase a nice, expensive or rare fish for a while still. __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/17/2009, 04:04 PM	#14
bbl_nk Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CA Posts: 743	I got to see this one at IMAC, didn't get a price though. Quality Marine had and awesome cube tank setup with lots of rare and amazing fish! http://www.reefbuilders.com/2009/08/...lay-imac-west/ __________________ Brian I'm hooked on DIY! It's all about Blue-Collar Reefing! Current Tank Info: 75g Palau Reef in the Making

08/17/2009, 06:07 PM	#15
jeff209 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stockton CA Posts: 1,816	Bryan D is your job hiring ? My fish money limit is 80. I need to work wit you. Lol __________________ "that fish needs at least a180 gallon to be happy" "so me buying it from a lfs that has it in a 20 won't help" -Jeff Current Tank Info: 120 in the works

08/17/2009, 06:43 PM	#16
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	Lol! You need to go work at my wifes job! __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/17/2009, 07:01 PM	#17
bbl_nk Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CA Posts: 743	Jeff, I'm with you on the $80. There are so many beautiful fish I'd love to have but have a limit on what I'd spend and most of it is hinged on my comfort level on what I can keep alive Maybe in 20 years when I've been there, done that enough __________________ Brian I'm hooked on DIY! It's all about Blue-Collar Reefing! Current Tank Info: 75g Palau Reef in the Making

08/17/2009, 10:27 PM	#18
jeff209 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stockton CA Posts: 1,816	Man what's her limit __________________ "that fish needs at least a180 gallon to be happy" "so me buying it from a lfs that has it in a 20 won't help" -Jeff Current Tank Info: 120 in the works

08/17/2009, 11:00 PM	#19
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	lol. Na she keeps my spending in check. This is really my only hobby and you only live once. Believe me if i had the dough i would have a much nicer system. __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/17/2009, 11:54 PM	#20
jeff209 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stockton CA Posts: 1,816	Wouldn't we all __________________ "that fish needs at least a180 gallon to be happy" "so me buying it from a lfs that has it in a 20 won't help" -Jeff Current Tank Info: 120 in the works

08/17/2009, 11:58 PM	#21
brianbigoats Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lodi, CA Posts: 1,122	Jake I am glad that RCT is going to reopen I have been trying to wait to get a interruptus for a while my friend Alicia has a pair of there hybrids they are sweet

08/18/2009, 12:15 AM	#22
Jacob D Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Bay Posts: 6,613	If people put as much effort into the husbandry of their fish as they do their corals I think they would quickly realize that fish are much easier to care for and have success with compared to many corals. The only thing the cost has to do with is whether or not you can afford it (whether it's a fish or a new stereo etc...). The money spent is easily forgotten once I set my eyes on my new fish and begin to take care of them. I have never regretted purchasing a fish from a monetary standpoint, and when I watch them swimming around my tank the cost of them never occurs to me. If you look at your fish or corals and see dollar signs, you really should find another hobby I think too many people set imaginary price boundaries on fish because they look at fish as a gamble due to less than the best fish husbandry on their part (whether knowingly or not). Unfortunately fish get less attention in a reef more often than they deserve. The most important thing is doing homework on every purchase - husbandry starts before the money crosses the counter no matter how much or little a fish costs. Some of the fish we're talking about here are on the touchy side, same goes for putting multiple centropyges in the same tank, but those should be a calculated risks (I say should be because we should have done our homework and understand the risk) and that's really a different topic when it comes to price. Now... everyone who just read this should be starting your fish fund. Put a little away so when the opportunity arises you are ready to pull the trigger and don't have to ask the boss if it's ok to dip into savings __________________ Jacob. Current Tank Info: Retired from reefing... Last edited by Jacob D; 08/18/2009 at 12:23 AM.

08/18/2009, 08:22 AM	#24
Bdimas No on 15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 2,518	Well said Jake. That's exactly why I'm planning now on what "centerpiece" fish I want. __________________ Bryan Current Tank Info: 90gallon mixed reef.

08/18/2009, 09:57 AM	#25
Whacked Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stockton, Ca Posts: 397	those are some awesome fish