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Unread 08/18/2009, 12:36 PM   #1
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Turbo Snails Dead

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So on sunday I went to my local fish store and bought a $25 package that allowed me to get 3 mexican turbo snails, 2 lg nasarrius, 1 sally lightfoot crab, and 3 hermits. I acclimated them all for 45 minutes and then put them in. The hermits, sally, and nasarius did fine but the 3 mexican turbo snails have died after only 2 days!! As soon as i put them in they just kinda sat there until today and now they are dead. Any idea what killed them? Or do you think i just received some unhealthy snails?


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Unread 08/18/2009, 12:40 PM   #2
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Did you drip acclimate them for at least 1 1/2-2 hrs?
It takes snails a long time to get used to new water conditions.


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was the bag full of water when you bought them?


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Mexican turbo snails don't last long in our tanks because of the temp difference. However 2 days leads me to believe they weren't acclimated properly. Can you explain your acclimation process?


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Unread 08/18/2009, 01:44 PM   #5
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I acclimated them for 45 minutes maybe thats why. The bag they came in had water in it already from the store and i brought them home and placed the bag in the water with the top taped to the side so the opening was well opened. Everyminute I put a small amount of my tanks water in for 45 minutes and then dropped them in. One out of the three is actually moving and eating now but the other 2 have died.


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Unread 08/18/2009, 01:53 PM   #6
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I acclimated them for 45 minutes maybe thats why. The bag they came in had water in it already from the store and i brought them home and placed the bag in the water with the top taped to the side so the opening was well opened. Everyminute I put a small amount of my tanks water in for 45 minutes and then dropped them in. One out of the three is actually moving and eating now but the other 2 have died.
It really pays to check the salinity level of the water in the bag from the lfs. Alot of lfs keep the salinity low at about 1.018. If you are running your salinity at 1.026 that is too much a difference for drip acclimating. In this case you are best to setup a smaller tank and gradually bring the salinity up over 24 hours.


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Unread 08/18/2009, 01:54 PM   #7
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Yeah thats what im thinking may have been the problem. Well that sucks maybe they will give me new ones? haha


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Unread 08/18/2009, 01:55 PM   #8
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Mexican turbo snails don't last long in our tanks because of the temp difference. However 2 days leads me to believe they weren't acclimated properly. Can you explain your acclimation process?
lately my lfs has been bringing in giant turbos from Indonesia. These are much harder and seem to be lasting alot longer then the Mexicans---and you don't have to run out to Taco Bell to feed them


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Unread 08/18/2009, 02:19 PM   #9
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Personally,I like the zebra trocus snails.


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Unread 08/18/2009, 02:48 PM   #10
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are you positive they are dead? In the past when I put new snails in, it has been a few days before they actually moved.

Also, where in your tank did you put them? Sandbed, glass, rock? I've found they take longer to move if put on the sandbed, so I actually prefer to put them on the glass or rock...just my .02


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Personally,I like the zebra trocus snails.
me too, great cleaners, smaller than the turbos and can right themselves, unlike the astreas...


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Unread 08/18/2009, 02:57 PM   #12
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lately my lfs has been bringing in giant turbos from Indonesia. These are much harder and seem to be lasting alot longer then the Mexicans---and you don't have to run out to Taco Bell to feed them
Yeah my LFS is starting to carry them as well. I'm still afraid to put them in my tank due to their enormous size and strength. Maybe if you feed them taco bell they wouldn't knock over the aquascaping.


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Unread 08/18/2009, 03:56 PM   #13
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haha yeah well they were originally put on the walls and one on a rock covered in plenty of algae to eat but two of them fell down into the coral bed and started sperming each other. The other one that was on the rock survived and is still on the rock. I checked them today and picked up the shell and one fell out of the shell and was all gross smelling. The other is still in his shell but is started to smell also so I think those two are dead. The other started moving today though! I was thinking of replacing them with Trocus snails though thanks for the reminder!


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Unread 08/18/2009, 06:35 PM   #14
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Yeah my LFS is starting to carry them as well. I'm still afraid to put them in my tank due to their enormous size and strength. Maybe if you feed them taco bell they wouldn't knock over the aquascaping.
mine occupy themselves quite nicely on the glass and stay off the reef----maybe its time to do that water change I've haven't done in over 2 months.


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