which is better and why-chemi-pure or chemi-clean?

deansreef · 04/09/2006, 11:53 AM

I have these annoying tiny air bubbles that form on my rocks after the lights have been on for several hours. the bubbles dissipate at night and return when the lights come back on.

What product should I usE FOR THIS?

THANKS

PatrickJ · 04/09/2006, 12:29 PM

chemi-pure is carbon, chemi-clean is a white or (newer versions are brown) for oxidation of organic sludge and cynobacteria.

AquaReeferMan · 04/09/2006, 12:37 PM

I agree with PatrickJ. So you should use Chemi-Clean, but I would try and figure out why this is happening and if there is a better solution then using chemicals. I am not bashing chemi clean, It does work great, but you can get control of the cyano yourself. What are your water specs, what for flow do you have, how often to you feed, ect?

deansreef · 04/09/2006, 12:43 PM

for flow I am running 2 streams in my 180- 1 6060 and 1 6100 on a controller, i feed 1 time every other day calcium 420 dkh 9 phoshate 0 nitrate .01

is chemi-clean better for the bubbles?

21Reefman · 04/09/2006, 01:10 PM

Some algaes try to establish themselves with the bubbles.

I have some vivid green stuff and it is sort of from what you describe. Although I might have bubbles from the skimmer to blame.

Chemi-clean is to kill red algea, will prob make bubbles worse as you are adding a chemical to the system and turning off the skimmer.
I think Chemi-pure is a good product to remove organics from the water so I always recommend using it to help with nuisance algae.

Are the bubbles causing algae to grow?

Actually, even for red algae I think a water change and some chemi-pure is more effective in the long run to eliminate the source of the algaeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s food, than adding a chemical to kill it in the short term. Which it does well.

If you don't remove the high organics that caused the outbreak, it will soon return.

deansreef · 04/10/2006, 07:36 AM

anyone else?

fgarvine · 04/10/2006, 07:37 AM

Apple/Orange. AlGone is a good alt. to C-Clean.

smatter · 04/10/2006, 01:46 PM

Could it be cyano releasing nitrogen, my tank is in its run in phase and the rocks have bubbles and a little cyano.

Elorian · 04/10/2006, 08:53 PM

So is Chemi-Pure nothing more than GAC? Or do they add something else to it?

21Reefman · 04/10/2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Elorian
So is Chemi-Pure nothing more than GAC? Or do they add something else to it?

There are also some silicone resin balls/beads in there.

Elorian · 04/11/2006, 10:49 AM

Any idea what the silicone does (ie adsorb something that the GAC does not, act as a buffer of some sort, etc)?

04/09/2006, 11:53 AM	#1
deansreef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: north carolina Posts: 3,234	which is better and why-chemi-pure or chemi-clean? I have these annoying tiny air bubbles that form on my rocks after the lights have been on for several hours. the bubbles dissipate at night and return when the lights come back on. What product should I usE FOR THIS? THANKS __________________ the only dumb question, is the one not asked... Current Tank Info: 225 gallon peninsula

04/09/2006, 12:29 PM	#2
PatrickJ Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Luling, La Posts: 587	chemi-pure is carbon, chemi-clean is a white or (newer versions are brown) for oxidation of organic sludge and cynobacteria. __________________ I skim wet, therefore I am. Current Tank Info: 120 Monster

04/09/2006, 12:37 PM	#3
AquaReeferMan Got Reef? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Under the Sea, Pa Posts: 4,593	I agree with PatrickJ. So you should use Chemi-Clean, but I would try and figure out why this is happening and if there is a better solution then using chemicals. I am not bashing chemi clean, It does work great, but you can get control of the cyano yourself. What are your water specs, what for flow do you have, how often to you feed, ect? __________________ Couple SPS/Zoanthid tanks and a couple of FW planted tanks. Current Tank Info: 5 pieces of glass with some silicone and plastic frames holding them together

04/09/2006, 12:43 PM	#4
deansreef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: north carolina Posts: 3,234	for flow I am running 2 streams in my 180- 1 6060 and 1 6100 on a controller, i feed 1 time every other day calcium 420 dkh 9 phoshate 0 nitrate .01 is chemi-clean better for the bubbles? __________________ the only dumb question, is the one not asked... Current Tank Info: 225 gallon peninsula

04/09/2006, 01:10 PM	#5
21Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago/NW IN Posts: 403	Some algaes try to establish themselves with the bubbles. I have some vivid green stuff and it is sort of from what you describe. Although I might have bubbles from the skimmer to blame. Chemi-clean is to kill red algea, will prob make bubbles worse as you are adding a chemical to the system and turning off the skimmer. I think Chemi-pure is a good product to remove organics from the water so I always recommend using it to help with nuisance algae. Are the bubbles causing algae to grow? Actually, even for red algae I think a water change and some chemi-pure is more effective in the long run to eliminate the source of the algaeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s food, than adding a chemical to kill it in the short term. Which it does well. If you don't remove the high organics that caused the outbreak, it will soon return. __________________ "The significant problems that we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein

04/10/2006, 07:36 AM	#6
deansreef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: north carolina Posts: 3,234	anyone else? __________________ the only dumb question, is the one not asked... Current Tank Info: 225 gallon peninsula

04/10/2006, 07:37 AM	#7
fgarvine Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ky Posts: 126	Apple/Orange. AlGone is a good alt. to C-Clean.

04/10/2006, 01:46 PM	#8
smatter Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,055	Could it be cyano releasing nitrogen, my tank is in its run in phase and the rocks have bubbles and a little cyano.

04/10/2006, 08:53 PM	#9
Elorian Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 262	So is Chemi-Pure nothing more than GAC? Or do they add something else to it? __________________ Deep calls to deep in the roar of your waterfalls... (Ps 42:7) Current Tank Info: 55 Reef, 45 FW fish and live plants

04/11/2006, 10:49 AM	#11
Elorian Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 262	Any idea what the silicone does (ie adsorb something that the GAC does not, act as a buffer of some sort, etc)? __________________ Deep calls to deep in the roar of your waterfalls... (Ps 42:7) Current Tank Info: 55 Reef, 45 FW fish and live plants