My Water Look Green - Page 2

redFishblue · 05/21/2006, 12:37 PM

try carbon.
It would help clear the water.

Sk8r · 05/21/2006, 12:46 PM

thesaent, I think it is the sun. THere are a few places where you can safely buy salt water from the sea, if the chap selling it goes far enough out to get away from the pollution and high nitrate near shore. But you still should check your salinity to be sure he didn't have a lot of evaporation before it got to you, and check your other levels. Water that's been bottled and lugged about might undergo a few changes, and above all else, you want to be sure the bottles were used only for water.

A 10% water change should help. And algae is not a bad thing. Your tank looks as if it's starting to cycle. You need live rock.

55semireef · 05/21/2006, 04:43 PM

Regardless, you cannot use seawater. Trust me on that one. And yes it is the water. The sun does not make your tank green unless its in pure direct sunlight where you get ton of green algae on the glass all you see is green.

smcnally · 05/21/2006, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 55semireef
Regardless, you cannot use seawater. Trust me on that one. And yes it is the water. The sun does not make your tank green unless its in pure direct sunlight where you get ton of green algae on the glass all you see is green.

I'm sorry dude, but you are wrong. Obviously you can use it since people do, AND have success. Please don't tell people they are doing something wrong when you don't know facts on what you are talking about.

thesaent14 · 05/21/2006, 05:31 PM

i know people who only do sea water and there tank is doing really really good with litel and simple system in fact they go out with the boat and get the water from out sea

its florida the water is really good warm and cleand in most areas

exacta123 · 05/21/2006, 05:41 PM

I would like to hear some FACTS on why you cant use real ocean water. I have never used it but people use it all the time with great success if I lived near the ocean it would save me lots of money though... come on throw us some facts

55semireef · 05/21/2006, 05:51 PM

First of all, it depends where you collect the water. Would you want to take the risk of having some oil in your tank spilled by a ship? I would hope not.

There are also many other factors assuming you know the relationship between currents and water quality. Ever heard of Red Tide? Yeah you put one drop of that in your tank and your done. How about introducing new pathogens to your fish or corals that kill them. Or introducing phytoplankton thats toxic or in too much quantity that can disrupt the chemistry.

There are some facts. exacta123.

Hate to break it to you smcnally, I am not wrong. Sure there are people that use it and get success, it all depends on location. Take the chance. Loose 500 dollars worth of corals see if I care after that I have told you my warning.

55semireef · 05/21/2006, 05:53 PM

You can't take water thats balanced in an ocean and apply it to such a small area and call it the best water.

exacta123 · 05/21/2006, 06:07 PM

Thanks for the FACTS I will take them into consideration, just a little advice you really dont have to be so offensive

smcnally · 05/21/2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 55semireef
First of all, it depends where you collect the water. Would you want to take the risk of having some oil in your tank spilled by a ship? I would hope not.

There are also many other factors assuming you know the relationship between currents and water quality. Ever heard of Red Tide? Yeah you put one drop of that in your tank and your done. How about introducing new pathogens to your fish or corals that kill them. Or introducing phytoplankton thats toxic or in too much quantity that can disrupt the chemistry.

There are some facts. exacta123.

Hate to break it to you smcnally, I am not wrong. Sure there are people that use it and get success, it all depends on location. Take the chance. Loose 500 dollars worth of corals see if I care after that I have told you my warning.

So then maybe you shouldn't use your local water because is can have chloramines and other harsh chemicals in it? The fact of the matter is that you filter your local water to rid it of nasty stuff, right? A reputable NSW supplier filters the water to an extent too. The guys around here that I've talked to that supply it run it through floss and carbon before delivery. All I'm saying is that I've heard more positive talk about the use of NSW than negative. To tell someone that it is absolutely bad for their tank is wrong. If it is your opinion, then say that...don't make it sound so black an white.

thesaent14 · 05/22/2006, 09:43 PM

hey guys one small update i did a water change like 30g with sea water because it was left i dint have other but i put carbon in the fuge and the water is geting alot beter i will post some pictures tumorow if the water get much beter

55semireef · 05/23/2006, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smcnally
So then maybe you shouldn't use your local water because is can have chloramines and other harsh chemicals in it? The fact of the matter is that you filter your local water to rid it of nasty stuff, right? A reputable NSW supplier filters the water to an extent too. The guys around here that I've talked to that supply it run it through floss and carbon before delivery. All I'm saying is that I've heard more positive talk about the use of NSW than negative. To tell someone that it is absolutely bad for their tank is wrong. If it is your opinion, then say that...don't make it sound so black an white.

Actually I use Ro/DI water that has NO chlormines im it or other harsh chemicles. Why would I use water with harsh chemicles? Explain that to me.

exacta123, your welcome on the facts. Facts are facts so take them into consideration.

BTW, I am not offensive, your just taking it that way.

nutshells · 05/23/2006, 12:07 PM

I never seen saltwater that green before. Must be some green algae

yoboyjdizz · 05/23/2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 55semireef
Thats a big time no no. Never use sea water.

I wouldn't say is a big time no no, but i would still test it before you use it. Like someone said their are plenty of people who use it and there are companys who also sell it.

I think the green water/yellow tint good be a phase your tank is going through since its new can't remember what it is called but my old 72 went through the same thing. Lots of water changes and keeping up my water qaulity and it went away. Also adding some carbon could help as well.

rustybucket145 · 05/23/2006, 01:01 PM

55semireef? Judging by the cyano or diatom bloom on the sand in your avatar I don't think you should be the sole source of information on water quality in reef tanks. As a matter of fact I don't see any corals in the background. Actually.... I don't even see good coraline growth. Maybee you need to spend some time this weekend on your tank. Maybee do a water change? Tune your Seaclone up or something

By voicing your OPINION as fact you really come across as........... well a few things come to mind. Either way.....

thesaent14: Sorry you have to put up with this nonsense in your thread. My advice: If you know of other people using this same NSW with success keep using it. It's that simple. The green was probably just a small phytoplankton bloom (which isn't really bad for a new tank). Just make sure the guy isn't getting the water from a dock in the marina.

55semireef · 05/23/2006, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rustybucket145
55semireef? Judging by the cyano or diatom bloom on the sand in your avatar I don't think you should be the sole source of information on water quality in reef tanks. As a matter of fact I don't see any corals in the background. Actually.... I don't even see good coraline growth. Maybee you need to spend some time this weekend on your tank. Maybee do a water change? Tune your Seaclone up or something

By voicing your OPINION as fact you really come across as........... well a few things come to mind. Either way.....

thesaent14: Sorry you have to put up with this nonsense in your thread. My advice: If you know of other people using this same NSW with success keep using it. It's that simple. The green was probably just a small phytoplankton bloom (which isn't really bad for a new tank). Just make sure the guy isn't getting the water from a dock in the marina.

That's actually a picture of my aunts yellow tang before I got mine so don't judge or call me out like that again.

55semireef · 05/23/2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rustybucket145
55semireef? Judging by the cyano or diatom bloom on the sand in your avatar I don't think you should be the sole source of information on water quality in reef tanks. As a matter of fact I don't see any corals in the background. Actually.... I don't even see good coraline growth. Maybee you need to spend some time this weekend on your tank. Maybee do a water change? Tune your Seaclone up or something

By voicing your OPINION as fact you really come across as........... well a few things come to mind. Either way.....

thesaent14: Sorry you have to put up with this nonsense in your thread. My advice: If you know of other people using this same NSW with success keep using it. It's that simple. The green was probably just a small phytoplankton bloom (which isn't really bad for a new tank). Just make sure the guy isn't getting the water from a dock in the marina.

OH BTW buddy, its a small screen shot anyways so even if I did have lots of corals and coraline, you wouldn't be able to see it and actually I have very good coraline growth. And I switched from aggessive to reef so I am being patient about getting lots of corals at once. Oh and I don't have a seaclone, I have a DLX prizm and oh, one more thing, I just did a water change yesterday. ITs ok, your only a little rusty right?

rustybucket145 · 05/23/2006, 01:18 PM

You should really relax sometimes.... Maybee go play your saxaphone and cool down. Or maybee some waterpolo...

55semireef · 05/23/2006, 01:25 PM

Thanks for looking at my profile. How about you go invent some crazy graphic designs. That sounds fun.

*Saxophone

timmyus · 05/23/2006, 02:47 PM

I use natural sea water with great results but our Local Two oceans aquarium provides its members with filtered ocean water for our home aquariums. They actually have a large room with various filtration systems that filters the water which then runs to a tap where you able to draw the water from.

55semireef · 05/23/2006, 07:43 PM

Timmyus, only one more post! lol

I would rather get NSW thats filtered instead of straight up sea water. I would be worried about whats in it.

ek9vboi · 05/23/2006, 08:12 PM

Correct! 55semireef knows his ****z.

P.S. Thread starter... learn to type proper or something close to it so we can read and understand it. Oh yeah, do some research. Here is a start:

http://www.megapathdsl.net/~fmariani/abbreviations.htm

thesaent14 · 05/23/2006, 09:18 PM

hey my firts lenguge is spanish sorry but i dont type much english i do speak really good but not to much grama sorry

and this is and update after the carbon yesterday and a big water change on sunday this is a before and after pics

before pic

yes the carbon really work after 24Hr

i will keep posting the proses this is my new set up and is all diy exep for the tank so ill like to thank to all of you for helping me on this now my new consern is i dont have live rock i will add some on the weeckend how long i have to wait to cycle i did add booster cycle and live sand i have a 25 pound bag of live sand more i am tingk to put it in the refeugium what should i do

thanks to all and keep posting

55semireef · 05/23/2006, 09:26 PM

Its starting to look better. Looks like you got good flow. But one thing is concerning me. You have two starfish. They will starve and most likely die in the cycle

Even though its spanish I still understand you even though it can be tricky. ITs no big deal though, you will ge the hang of it if you type a lot on this forum.

ek9vboi, I was just wondering if you were being sarcastic or serious? If you were being serious I take it as a compliment. I am pretty confident in what I was saying regardless of others peoples misconceptions and their ignorance.

thesaent14 · 05/23/2006, 09:31 PM

hey thanks is working really good the water is geting in good cuality

i have a Q??? siens you have Experience in the Hobby for 4 years

what you tink i should do with the xtra bag of sand i have put it in the tank or the fuge i have a deep sand bed like 5
" in the tank and none in the fuge

05/21/2006, 12:37 PM	#26
redFishblue Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 641	try carbon. It would help clear the water. __________________ it's always darkest before it's totally black

05/21/2006, 12:46 PM	#27
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	thesaent, I think it is the sun. THere are a few places where you can safely buy salt water from the sea, if the chap selling it goes far enough out to get away from the pollution and high nitrate near shore. But you still should check your salinity to be sure he didn't have a lot of evaporation before it got to you, and check your other levels. Water that's been bottled and lugged about might undergo a few changes, and above all else, you want to be sure the bottles were used only for water. A 10% water change should help. And algae is not a bad thing. Your tank looks as if it's starting to cycle. You need live rock. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

05/23/2006, 01:01 PM	#40
rustybucket145 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: valdosta, ga Posts: 3,707	55semireef? Judging by the cyano or diatom bloom on the sand in your avatar I don't think you should be the sole source of information on water quality in reef tanks. As a matter of fact I don't see any corals in the background. Actually.... I don't even see good coraline growth. Maybee you need to spend some time this weekend on your tank. Maybee do a water change? Tune your Seaclone up or something By voicing your OPINION as fact you really come across as........... well a few things come to mind. Either way..... thesaent14: Sorry you have to put up with this nonsense in your thread. My advice: If you know of other people using this same NSW with success keep using it. It's that simple. The green was probably just a small phytoplankton bloom (which isn't really bad for a new tank). Just make sure the guy isn't getting the water from a dock in the marina. __________________ 400gals of various tanks in the same system. Current Tank Info: 2 175w MH, 2 VH0 Actinics, Lots of Live Rock, tons of copepods, a Fat Mandarin Goby, Niger Trigger, Yellow Tang, Falco Hawkfish, Bi-Color Pseudo, numerous soft, SPS and LPS Corals

05/23/2006, 01:18 PM	#43
rustybucket145 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: valdosta, ga Posts: 3,707	You should really relax sometimes.... Maybee go play your saxaphone and cool down. Or maybee some waterpolo... __________________ 400gals of various tanks in the same system. Current Tank Info: 2 175w MH, 2 VH0 Actinics, Lots of Live Rock, tons of copepods, a Fat Mandarin Goby, Niger Trigger, Yellow Tang, Falco Hawkfish, Bi-Color Pseudo, numerous soft, SPS and LPS Corals

05/21/2006, 04:43 PM	#28
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	Regardless, you cannot use seawater. Trust me on that one. And yes it is the water. The sun does not make your tank green unless its in pure direct sunlight where you get ton of green algae on the glass all you see is green.

05/21/2006, 05:31 PM	#30
thesaent14 Moved On Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: miami lakes florida Posts: 1,591	i know people who only do sea water and there tank is doing really really good with litel and simple system in fact they go out with the boat and get the water from out sea its florida the water is really good warm and cleand in most areas

05/21/2006, 05:41 PM	#31
exacta123 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 352	I would like to hear some FACTS on why you cant use real ocean water. I have never used it but people use it all the time with great success if I lived near the ocean it would save me lots of money though... come on throw us some facts

05/21/2006, 05:51 PM	#32
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	First of all, it depends where you collect the water. Would you want to take the risk of having some oil in your tank spilled by a ship? I would hope not. There are also many other factors assuming you know the relationship between currents and water quality. Ever heard of Red Tide? Yeah you put one drop of that in your tank and your done. How about introducing new pathogens to your fish or corals that kill them. Or introducing phytoplankton thats toxic or in too much quantity that can disrupt the chemistry. There are some facts. exacta123. Hate to break it to you smcnally, I am not wrong. Sure there are people that use it and get success, it all depends on location. Take the chance. Loose 500 dollars worth of corals see if I care after that I have told you my warning.

05/21/2006, 05:53 PM	#33
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	You can't take water thats balanced in an ocean and apply it to such a small area and call it the best water.

05/21/2006, 06:07 PM	#34
exacta123 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 352	Thanks for the FACTS I will take them into consideration, just a little advice you really dont have to be so offensive

05/22/2006, 09:43 PM	#36
thesaent14 Moved On Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: miami lakes florida Posts: 1,591	hey guys one small update i did a water change like 30g with sea water because it was left i dint have other but i put carbon in the fuge and the water is geting alot beter i will post some pictures tumorow if the water get much beter

05/23/2006, 12:07 PM	#38
nutshells Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 104	I never seen saltwater that green before. Must be some green algae

05/23/2006, 01:25 PM	#44
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	Thanks for looking at my profile. How about you go invent some crazy graphic designs. That sounds fun. *Saxophone

05/23/2006, 02:47 PM	#45
timmyus Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cape Town South Africa Posts: 109	I use natural sea water with great results but our Local Two oceans aquarium provides its members with filtered ocean water for our home aquariums. They actually have a large room with various filtration systems that filters the water which then runs to a tap where you able to draw the water from.

05/23/2006, 07:43 PM	#46
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	Timmyus, only one more post! lol I would rather get NSW thats filtered instead of straight up sea water. I would be worried about whats in it.

05/23/2006, 08:12 PM	#47
ek9vboi Registered Member. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 3,027	Correct! 55semireef knows his ****z. P.S. Thread starter... learn to type proper or something close to it so we can read and understand it. Oh yeah, do some research. Here is a start: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~fmariani/abbreviations.htm

05/23/2006, 09:18 PM	#48
thesaent14 Moved On Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: miami lakes florida Posts: 1,591	hey my firts lenguge is spanish sorry but i dont type much english i do speak really good but not to much grama sorry and this is and update after the carbon yesterday and a big water change on sunday this is a before and after pics before pic yes the carbon really work after 24Hr i will keep posting the proses this is my new set up and is all diy exep for the tank so ill like to thank to all of you for helping me on this now my new consern is i dont have live rock i will add some on the weeckend how long i have to wait to cycle i did add booster cycle and live sand i have a 25 pound bag of live sand more i am tingk to put it in the refeugium what should i do thanks to all and keep posting

05/23/2006, 09:26 PM	#49
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	Its starting to look better. Looks like you got good flow. But one thing is concerning me. You have two starfish. They will starve and most likely die in the cycle Even though its spanish I still understand you even though it can be tricky. ITs no big deal though, you will ge the hang of it if you type a lot on this forum. ek9vboi, I was just wondering if you were being sarcastic or serious? If you were being serious I take it as a compliment. I am pretty confident in what I was saying regardless of others peoples misconceptions and their ignorance.

05/23/2006, 09:31 PM	#50
thesaent14 Moved On Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: miami lakes florida Posts: 1,591	hey thanks is working really good the water is geting in good cuality i have a Q??? siens you have Experience in the Hobby for 4 years what you tink i should do with the xtra bag of sand i have put it in the tank or the fuge i have a deep sand bed like 5 " in the tank and none in the fuge