55g Plan- external overflow, plumbing ??s

jus10kase · 05/23/2006, 07:01 PM

Gonna have a 55g w/20L for sump. My ASM g1x should arrive soon. Any reccomendations, links for external overflow, return pump, powerheads, and plumbing plans? Return would have @4ft up to tank, and just need moderate flow.

TIA

sjm817 · 05/23/2006, 08:00 PM

For a moderate flow from the return (which is the correct way to do it), on that setup, I'd use this overflow and a Mag3 pump. If you want a super quiet, very high quality pump, get an Eheim 1250.

jus10kase · 05/24/2006, 05:32 PM

Thanks SJ.

Any more comments?

Littleg182 · 05/24/2006, 07:20 PM

Well if your feeling adventurous you could DIY a nice "wal-mart" betta tank overflow. Its not really a kit though

$5 betta tank(for overflow) $10 drill bit (Ebay of course) $15 plumbing and you got yourself a nice drilled overflow. Let me know if you decide to use my method. Dead silent too!

c. dawg · 05/26/2006, 09:32 PM

Can you get the tank drilled

... might save a lot of trouble. Then just silicone in an overflow box. (Doesn't need to be drilled on the bottom if it is tempered ... you could use the side).

If you didn't want to drill it, I am sure a lfs could drill it for you ... I am not sure how much that would cost you though.

-H88

Avast Marine · 05/26/2006, 10:19 PM

Just to clarify.
A external overflow looks like this....

plumbed like this...

There are many variations of the internal overflow like littleg mentioned calfo style internals or coast to coast and syphon overflows. Could you be more specific which you are interested in.

jus10kase · 05/27/2006, 02:06 PM

I guess syphon overflows was what I thinking of.

Avast Marine · 05/27/2006, 06:11 PM

In that case might as well get the best!

sjm817 · 05/27/2006, 06:43 PM

There are a couple of used Lifereef overflows on the used equipment forum.

meco65 · 05/27/2006, 08:20 PM

here is one
http://www.aquacrylics.com/aquarium_filters.htm

jus10kase · 05/28/2006, 08:06 PM

I haven`t noticed any Lifereefs on the sell forum. How is the Amiracle one?
And the Aquacrylics?

Newflavor · 05/29/2006, 07:12 AM

what do you guys think of the biorocker as the wet dry filter for the sump. This looks like a good overflow
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

sjm817 · 05/29/2006, 07:14 AM

That overflow (CPR) is horrible.

jasert39 · 05/29/2006, 07:30 AM

i have a lifereef overflow and think its absolutely great. I also thik that you are going to want a bit larger of a pump than a mag three. I have a mag 7 being used to pump water up about 4 feet to two returns...give me about 400 gph or so.

jus10kase · 05/30/2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jus10kase
I haven`t noticed any Lifereefs on the sell forum. How is the Amiracle one?
And the Aquacrylics?

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sjm817 · 05/30/2006, 11:56 AM

I've owned both the Amiracle and Lifereef. Both are very good quality, very reliable products. The main difference is flow capacity. A Mag5 maxes out the Amiracle. The LR can handle a lot more flow. The Amiracle has a smaller skimmer box and takes up less space. What are you planning on using for a pump?

tjhallock · 05/30/2006, 12:40 PM

I plan on drilling mine Calfo Style. I think it would save alot of trouble in the future. Here's what I am going to do, but instead of sticking out 4" from the back, I'll have mine around 2-2 1/2". Photo by my dad

jus10kase · 05/30/2006, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sjm817
I've owned both the Amiracle and Lifereef. Both are very good quality, very reliable products. The main difference is flow capacity. A Mag5 maxes out the Amiracle. The LR can handle a lot more flow. The Amiracle has a smaller skimmer box and takes up less space. What are you planning on using for a pump?

I`m leaning towards the Eheim 1250 for the pump.

sjm817 · 05/30/2006, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jus10kase
I`m leaning towards the Eheim 1250 for the pump.

Good choice on the pump. The 1250 should be fine with an Amiracle.

jus10kase · 06/04/2006, 06:55 PM

Good, I have the pump, and overflow coming this week.

05/23/2006, 07:01 PM	#1
jus10kase Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Fl Posts: 227	55g Plan- external overflow, plumbing ??s Gonna have a 55g w/20L for sump. My ASM g1x should arrive soon. Any reccomendations, links for external overflow, return pump, powerheads, and plumbing plans? Return would have @4ft up to tank, and just need moderate flow. TIA __________________ If you walked a mile in my shoes........ I wouldn`t want them back! Current Tank Info: 55g since June 06 now 120g, since maybe 09.

05/23/2006, 08:00 PM	#2
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	For a moderate flow from the return (which is the correct way to do it), on that setup, I'd use this overflow and a Mag3 pump. If you want a super quiet, very high quality pump, get an Eheim 1250. __________________ - Scott

05/24/2006, 05:32 PM	#3
jus10kase Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Fl Posts: 227	Thanks SJ. Any more comments? __________________ If you walked a mile in my shoes........ I wouldn`t want them back! Current Tank Info: 55g since June 06 now 120g, since maybe 09.

05/26/2006, 10:19 PM	#6
Avast Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,446	Just to clarify. A external overflow looks like this.... plumbed like this... There are many variations of the internal overflow like littleg mentioned calfo style internals or coast to coast and syphon overflows. Could you be more specific which you are interested in. __________________ Dan Don't rush art, you get bad art.

05/27/2006, 02:06 PM	#7
jus10kase Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Fl Posts: 227	I guess syphon overflows was what I thinking of. __________________ If you walked a mile in my shoes........ I wouldn`t want them back! Current Tank Info: 55g since June 06 now 120g, since maybe 09.

05/24/2006, 07:20 PM	#4
Littleg182 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: FL Posts: 126	Well if your feeling adventurous you could DIY a nice "wal-mart" betta tank overflow. Its not really a kit though $5 betta tank(for overflow) $10 drill bit (Ebay of course) $15 plumbing and you got yourself a nice drilled overflow. Let me know if you decide to use my method. Dead silent too!

05/26/2006, 09:32 PM	#5
c. dawg Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 485	Can you get the tank drilled ... might save a lot of trouble. Then just silicone in an overflow box. (Doesn't need to be drilled on the bottom if it is tempered ... you could use the side). If you didn't want to drill it, I am sure a lfs could drill it for you ... I am not sure how much that would cost you though. -H88

05/27/2006, 06:11 PM	#8
Avast Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,446	In that case might as well get the best! __________________ Dan Don't rush art, you get bad art.

05/27/2006, 06:43 PM	#9
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	There are a couple of used Lifereef overflows on the used equipment forum. __________________ - Scott

05/27/2006, 08:20 PM	#10
meco65 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,603	here is one http://www.aquacrylics.com/aquarium_filters.htm

05/28/2006, 08:06 PM	#11
jus10kase Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Fl Posts: 227	I haven`t noticed any Lifereefs on the sell forum. How is the Amiracle one? And the Aquacrylics? __________________ If you walked a mile in my shoes........ I wouldn`t want them back! Current Tank Info: 55g since June 06 now 120g, since maybe 09.

05/29/2006, 07:12 AM	#12
Newflavor Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 240	what do you guys think of the biorocker as the wet dry filter for the sump. This looks like a good overflow http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

05/29/2006, 07:14 AM	#13
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	That overflow (CPR) is horrible. __________________ - Scott

05/29/2006, 07:30 AM	#14
jasert39 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: PA Posts: 759	i have a lifereef overflow and think its absolutely great. I also thik that you are going to want a bit larger of a pump than a mag three. I have a mag 7 being used to pump water up about 4 feet to two returns...give me about 400 gph or so. __________________ Trust the Process Current Tank Info: 75 gallon RR Display, 30 gallon sump, SRO INT1000, Jebao CP9's, Marsaqua LEDS.

05/30/2006, 11:56 AM	#16
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	I've owned both the Amiracle and Lifereef. Both are very good quality, very reliable products. The main difference is flow capacity. A Mag5 maxes out the Amiracle. The LR can handle a lot more flow. The Amiracle has a smaller skimmer box and takes up less space. What are you planning on using for a pump? __________________ - Scott

05/30/2006, 12:40 PM	#17
tjhallock Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 31	I plan on drilling mine Calfo Style. I think it would save alot of trouble in the future. Here's what I am going to do, but instead of sticking out 4" from the back, I'll have mine around 2-2 1/2". Photo by my dad __________________ Hi, my name is Tyler, I'm 17 and I like to shoot animals!

06/04/2006, 06:55 PM	#20
jus10kase Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Fl Posts: 227	Good, I have the pump, and overflow coming this week. __________________ If you walked a mile in my shoes........ I wouldn`t want them back! Current Tank Info: 55g since June 06 now 120g, since maybe 09.