What rules of the hobby do you break? - Page 2

Crusty Old Shellback · 05/31/2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by bennerkla
I bought a seaclone....

doesn't get much worse than that.

Ran a 45G tank on one for about 4 years w/ no problems.

Upgraded it to a Prizm.

tkang69 · 05/31/2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bennerkla
tkang69-

it is only bad if you spray it in the same room, as it can get in the air and into your tank. I just windex, just add it to the paper towel in a different room.

Ah, I see. Reason I asked, is that I use windex to clean my glass, and even though my tank is over 6months old, it always has trace amounts of ammonia in it (even though it's been fallow 6 weeks due to an ich outbreak).

E-A-G-L-E-S · 05/31/2006, 02:16 PM

i feed 4-5x a day

icyuod2 · 05/31/2006, 02:20 PM

i have 2 mandarin in a 30g aquarium

and i have for 18months now, so....

back off! j/k

Flipturn88 · 05/31/2006, 02:27 PM

I had a pair of mandarins in a 25 gallon for a while - granted they both ate frozen foods readily, though. They are now in a 46 gallon and the female is pregnant.

I keep my tank @ around 84 degrees, too...since then, all nuisance algae has diminished.

SpaceAce · 05/31/2006, 02:32 PM

windex and salt causes smear marks. just use a wet towel and dry off.

SpaceAce · 05/31/2006, 02:34 PM

salinity SG kept at 1.026 to 1.028 in one tank. 1.023 in another. Both tanks are great. the level doesnt seem to matter

KDodds · 05/31/2006, 02:38 PM

Phew... if I listed them all this thread would get as large as Melev's. Some interesting ones:

1. Added Large Angels and Tangs before Clowns.
2. Multiple Large Angels in a single tank.
3. Multiple Centropyge in a single tank.
4. Very rarely perform water changes.
5. I have a Cleaner Wrasse, Pomacanthus navarchus, Apolemichthys trimaculatus AND a Moorish Idol (hope to find another soon), all regarded as difficult to impossible species.
6. These share their tank with a PBT, which was added before they were.
7. Larger Wrasse (Xmas Wrasse) (and Angels) in a Reef.
8. Feed at least twice per day, more when I can.
9. Only need to clean my skimmer maybe once per month.
10. Change bulbs as they blow.
11. 180 Soft used to go up to 90ÂºF sometimes with no problems.
12. Seahorses CAN be kept with hermits, bristleworms, snails, pods, etc.
13. Anemones are pests, I rid myself of my BTA(S!) because of this.
14. Let Xenia melt when it "crashes", it's the best way to repopulate the tank.
15. Blue Devils are not impossible to keep in a reef, with more peaceful species, it just has to be a LARGE reef.

rustybucket145 · 05/31/2006, 02:59 PM

Ohhhhh..... Yeah Lights.... If it ain't broke......

reefinmike · 05/31/2006, 03:07 PM

i dont add suppliments or test right now. going to start picking those two up when everything tankwise settles down(just set up a new one)

J4Life · 05/31/2006, 03:24 PM

This thread is absolutely hilarious.

Let's see what can I say that hasn't already been said. Hmmm.....
Oh! I reused my deep sand bed when moving my 75 gallon tank. I to don't use a protein skimmer, ca reactor, change my lights every 6 to 12 months, have about 100 lbs of live rock.

I do water changes every 3 to 4 weeks, feed every other day, keep a yellow tang and copper banded butterfly in the same tank. I don't believe in spending $300 on an RO unit when you can get the same thing on Ebay for under $100. That will cause a fight I am sure of it.

Cheerio!
Bill

HotHotHot · 05/31/2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tkang69
Wait....So windex can leach through the glass and affect your water? Say it ain't so!

I don't recall saying that in my post. The point is, if you're not careful spraying you can get it in the tank. I'd rather not.

Ed

RobinsonFam1 · 05/31/2006, 04:24 PM

i plead the 5th!

grows like weeds though!

Guelphie · 05/31/2006, 04:25 PM

I keep an Anemone under t5 NO lights. Stupid me for not remembering t5's come in NO and HO.

That'll learn me.

In fact, the Aneome has been under NO lights for nearly 2 years. In my brain, I make up for that fact by feeding it frequently.

smoknreefrs · 05/31/2006, 04:28 PM

did someone say grow weed

icyuod2 · 05/31/2006, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobinsonFam1
i plead the 5th!

grows like weeds though!

i made the same mistake.

thank god it's not my reef tank. i spend way too much time pruning.

reefinmike · 05/31/2006, 05:14 PM

^^^^^tank pics please, that looks neat in a bad way...

Craig Lambert · 05/31/2006, 05:16 PM

Great Thread!

1. Did not quarantine any of my 5 fish before placing them in my tank (75G with 5 and it's fully stocked). If I had a tank that was going to house more fish, I would have quarantined. I know I was playing with fire, but I have confidence in my fish source.

2. Introduced an RBTA 12 weeks after my cycle completed. (Which was very short and minor due to using fully cured lr). I do not believe in the 1 year mature tank rule. I think that is an excuse for the aquarist to mature for 1 year. If water params are excellent and stable you're good to go. I don't think anenomes care how much bacteria is in the rock and sand, or how many pods you have. They want good light and excellent water conditions. It's also easier to have them settle in before there are many corals present. Mine moved once, less than 24 hours after being introduced and has not moved since.

icyuod2 · 05/31/2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by reefinmike
^^^^^tank pics please, that looks neat in a bad way...

btw the tank is full of slugs, nudi's, crabs of all shapes and sizes. (hitchhickers)

i even supply them with colt corals and other cheap fraggs to feed on.

hows that for breaking the rules

LBCBJ · 05/31/2006, 05:38 PM

How do you figure higher temps prevent "parasite, ich, etc.". Higher temps increase metabolism and growth of everything in the tank, included parasites, which makes outbreaks more likely.

J4Life · 05/31/2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LBCBJ
How do you figure higher temps prevent "parasite, ich, etc.". Higher temps increase metabolism and growth of everything in the tank, included parasites, which makes outbreaks more likely.

Not exactly true. It really depends on the parasite. Some will die in cold water. Ich on the other hand is something that any fish can get when stressed. If I am not mistaken all fish carry the cells that can cause Ich. Typically as long as the fish is eating and the stress is eliminated the fish will recover with no adverse affects.

icyuod2,

Nice underwater forest you have there....

reefnewbie54321 · 05/31/2006, 05:52 PM

Dont run a skimmer

using about 70 pounds of rock in my 120

NaClH20NMYVEIN · 05/31/2006, 05:53 PM

I have 8 large tangs in a 300g, and I have never qt'ed any of them.

rayjay · 05/31/2006, 06:19 PM

I wasn't aware that there were "rules" to this hobby.
There are many "ways" to accomplish success in this hobby, but I certainly don't look at them as "rules", but as "choices" in which I decide how I want to best achieve MY goal.

D-Rod · 05/31/2006, 06:22 PM

Cured 80 lbs of LR, I just topped off with RO & good temp and a few turbos the rock cycled in 2 weeks, this rock had been out of water for over a month, this is how a friend has done it for 20 + years and he has 7 tanks for 1200 gals & 800 +lbS of LR

05/31/2006, 02:16 PM	#28
E-A-G-L-E-S Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 7,038	i feed 4-5x a day __________________ Smug Egotistical Contemptuous It's difficult to get a man to understand something that his salary requires him not to.

05/31/2006, 02:27 PM	#30
Flipturn88 Damsel in Finesse Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,578	I had a pair of mandarins in a 25 gallon for a while - granted they both ate frozen foods readily, though. They are now in a 46 gallon and the female is pregnant. I keep my tank @ around 84 degrees, too...since then, all nuisance algae has diminished. __________________ . .:( Kayla ):. . Life is the art of drawing without an eraser.

05/31/2006, 02:38 PM	#33
KDodds Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suffern, NY Posts: 2,731	Phew... if I listed them all this thread would get as large as Melev's. Some interesting ones: 1. Added Large Angels and Tangs before Clowns. 2. Multiple Large Angels in a single tank. 3. Multiple Centropyge in a single tank. 4. Very rarely perform water changes. 5. I have a Cleaner Wrasse, Pomacanthus navarchus, Apolemichthys trimaculatus AND a Moorish Idol (hope to find another soon), all regarded as difficult to impossible species. 6. These share their tank with a PBT, which was added before they were. 7. Larger Wrasse (Xmas Wrasse) (and Angels) in a Reef. 8. Feed at least twice per day, more when I can. 9. Only need to clean my skimmer maybe once per month. 10. Change bulbs as they blow. 11. 180 Soft used to go up to 90ÂºF sometimes with no problems. 12. Seahorses CAN be kept with hermits, bristleworms, snails, pods, etc. 13. Anemones are pests, I rid myself of my BTA(S!) because of this. 14. Let Xenia melt when it "crashes", it's the best way to repopulate the tank. 15. Blue Devils are not impossible to keep in a reef, with more peaceful species, it just has to be a LARGE reef. __________________ The sum of my knowledge is great, the sum of my ignorance greater still Kieron Dodds Administrator Inside Aquatics Current Tank Info: 450 Reef/180 FOWLR/125 ARLC/40 Seahorse/12 Planted/12 Planted

05/31/2006, 02:59 PM	#34
rustybucket145 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: valdosta, ga Posts: 3,707	Ohhhhh..... Yeah Lights.... If it ain't broke...... __________________ 400gals of various tanks in the same system. Current Tank Info: 2 175w MH, 2 VH0 Actinics, Lots of Live Rock, tons of copepods, a Fat Mandarin Goby, Niger Trigger, Yellow Tang, Falco Hawkfish, Bi-Color Pseudo, numerous soft, SPS and LPS Corals

05/31/2006, 03:07 PM	#35
reefinmike Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 846	i dont add suppliments or test right now. going to start picking those two up when everything tankwise settles down(just set up a new one) __________________ 90g reef lit by 2 kessil 360's and 4 T5's. 55g sump/fuge, eshopps s-200 skimmer and slowly working on getting every apex gadget

05/31/2006, 02:20 PM	#29
icyuod2 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 142	i have 2 mandarin in a 30g aquarium and i have for 18months now, so.... back off! j/k

05/31/2006, 02:32 PM	#31
SpaceAce Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 52	windex and salt causes smear marks. just use a wet towel and dry off.

05/31/2006, 02:34 PM	#32
SpaceAce Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 52	salinity SG kept at 1.026 to 1.028 in one tank. 1.023 in another. Both tanks are great. the level doesnt seem to matter

05/31/2006, 03:24 PM	#36
J4Life Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 1,397	This thread is absolutely hilarious. Let's see what can I say that hasn't already been said. Hmmm..... Oh! I reused my deep sand bed when moving my 75 gallon tank. I to don't use a protein skimmer, ca reactor, change my lights every 6 to 12 months, have about 100 lbs of live rock. I do water changes every 3 to 4 weeks, feed every other day, keep a yellow tang and copper banded butterfly in the same tank. I don't believe in spending $300 on an RO unit when you can get the same thing on Ebay for under $100. That will cause a fight I am sure of it. Cheerio! Bill __________________ Go Panthers! Got JC? <o)))>< Current Tank Info: 75 gallon, Reef tank

05/31/2006, 04:24 PM	#38
RobinsonFam1 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 616	i plead the 5th! grows like weeds though!

05/31/2006, 04:25 PM	#39
Guelphie Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Guelph Posts: 117	I keep an Anemone under t5 NO lights. Stupid me for not remembering t5's come in NO and HO. That'll learn me. In fact, the Aneome has been under NO lights for nearly 2 years. In my brain, I make up for that fact by feeding it frequently. __________________ I'm not a nerd. Nerds are smart.

05/31/2006, 04:28 PM	#40
smoknreefrs Moved On Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hackensack, NJ Posts: 669	did someone say grow weed

05/31/2006, 05:14 PM	#42
reefinmike Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 846	^^^^^tank pics please, that looks neat in a bad way... __________________ 90g reef lit by 2 kessil 360's and 4 T5's. 55g sump/fuge, eshopps s-200 skimmer and slowly working on getting every apex gadget

05/31/2006, 05:16 PM	#43
Craig Lambert Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,897	Great Thread! 1. Did not quarantine any of my 5 fish before placing them in my tank (75G with 5 and it's fully stocked). If I had a tank that was going to house more fish, I would have quarantined. I know I was playing with fire, but I have confidence in my fish source. 2. Introduced an RBTA 12 weeks after my cycle completed. (Which was very short and minor due to using fully cured lr). I do not believe in the 1 year mature tank rule. I think that is an excuse for the aquarist to mature for 1 year. If water params are excellent and stable you're good to go. I don't think anenomes care how much bacteria is in the rock and sand, or how many pods you have. They want good light and excellent water conditions. It's also easier to have them settle in before there are many corals present. Mine moved once, less than 24 hours after being introduced and has not moved since. __________________ "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will spend all day in a boat drinking beer." Current Tank Info: 75G Tank, 29G Sump, 100lbs LR, AquaC EV-180, Iwaki MD-20RT return Tunze nano streams 4X54 t-5/Icecap Ballast & SLR's 2x110 vho actinic

05/31/2006, 05:38 PM	#45
LBCBJ Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 1,332	How do you figure higher temps prevent "parasite, ich, etc.". Higher temps increase metabolism and growth of everything in the tank, included parasites, which makes outbreaks more likely. __________________ Brent

05/31/2006, 05:52 PM	#47
reefnewbie54321 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 1,263	Dont run a skimmer using about 70 pounds of rock in my 120

05/31/2006, 05:53 PM	#48
NaClH20NMYVEIN Red Dragons! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,897	I have 8 large tangs in a 300g, and I have never qt'ed any of them. __________________ The planet needs a 50% water change. Current Tank Info: Pacific Ocean

05/31/2006, 06:19 PM	#49
rayjay Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,969	I wasn't aware that there were "rules" to this hobby. There are many "ways" to accomplish success in this hobby, but I certainly don't look at them as "rules", but as "choices" in which I decide how I want to best achieve MY goal. __________________ Seahorses. Culture nanno, rotifers and brine shrimp. Current Tank Info: Seahorses

05/31/2006, 06:22 PM	#50
D-Rod Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Posts: 1,020	Cured 80 lbs of LR, I just topped off with RO & good temp and a few turbos the rock cycled in 2 weeks, this rock had been out of water for over a month, this is how a friend has done it for 20 + years and he has 7 tanks for 1200 gals & 800 +lbS of LR __________________ The Vino Man - I Trade With Wine...Just Ask! Current Tank Info: Small Tank, Lights, Fish; Tangs a whole bunch, 4 False Perculas, 6 rose anemones Mixed Reef.