Euro-Reef Eheim NW Thread - Page 8

scarletknight06 · 10/20/2006, 12:01 PM

tacocat,
is that your ER 1500 or just a pic you found?

tacocat · 10/20/2006, 12:21 PM

It belongs to someone I know. It was one of the first ones ER shipped out. I was playing with it and after putting all the pumps on, I thought, "I bet a people would get a kick out this."

Of particular note, it does have drain valve at the bottom and a cool new decal. It also uses the same air taps the Deltec uses. My buddy should have this thing working in a couple of weeks, and maybe, just maybe if you all behave (that goes double for Lunchbucket) I will post pics of this thing in operation.

I'll look into taking air readings on it also.

scarletknight06 · 10/20/2006, 12:28 PM

sweet

Jim_S · 10/20/2006, 12:36 PM

Great tacocat!

I'm interested to see what the air readings will be as well.

Jim

Lunchbucket · 10/20/2006, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tacocat
My buddy should have this thing working in a couple of weeks, and maybe, just maybe if you all behave (that goes double for Lunchbucket) I will post pics of this thing in operation.

i'll be have

but what fun is that. that skimmer is a beauty!

i want to buy a new ER w/ the eheiems and sell off my APF600 and my ER RC80 so i can be an eheim ER person too

i guess i have to wait for those dang 1250's to come out

Lunchbucket

tacocat · 10/20/2006, 03:52 PM

LB, you should get a new ER. Just do it! Life isn't a dress rehersal.

It's a beauty all right, right down to the matching drain ball valve and acrylic welding. That skimmer is about 5' tall.

Construction wise, it beats the Deltec that's in the garage and the acrylic is a slight step above my H&S. The gray protions of the H&S skimmer are PVC sheet, and I will have to say that the sheet work on H&S is superior. PVC seems to be more scratch resistant and easier to clean. The European PVC-U has a thinner wall thickness than US PVC, so the H&S inherently has less restrictions.

You know, it will need it's own powerstrip.

kentrob11 · 10/20/2006, 03:58 PM

I wonder why they face the pump outlets up instead of down- there's an aweful lot of wasted reaction chamber space there....

Jim_S · 10/20/2006, 04:17 PM

The outputs on the pumps are not fixed. They can be moved any way you like.

Jim

Zoom · 10/20/2006, 06:54 PM

I saw this new Eheims that ER use now , somewhere as a kit that is sold by Eheim.

Reefologist · 10/20/2006, 08:07 PM

Needle wheel and all?

scarletknight06 · 10/20/2006, 08:31 PM

yes eheim is coming out with their own needle wheel pumps. which sounds really odd to say b/c its their pump in the first place.

zoom are you saying that ER is using the ones made by eheim. If true, thats probably not a bad thing.

Reefologist · 10/20/2006, 08:37 PM

Not a bad thing at all.

Zoom · 10/20/2006, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reefologist
Needle wheel and all?

Yes it was one of the European shows they had i saw the pictures, some one posted here in RC.... I can not find the pictures .

Quote:

zoom are you saying that ER is using the ones made by eheim. If true, that's probably not a bad thing.

I don't know for sure but looks just like it , i'm just saying Eheim had some pump with the NW as a kit in one of the shows not long a go.

sjm817 · 10/20/2006, 09:51 PM

That pic from the show was a 1250

Zoom · 10/20/2006, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sjm817
That pic from the show was a 1250

You find the pictures i know i saw it. I don't know what size the pump was i just saw the pump and the NW.

sjm817 · 10/20/2006, 10:01 PM

Lunchbucket · 10/20/2006, 10:57 PM

tacocat - yeah i could get a new one i guess. what was the smallest the eheims are coming on?

but i could be the 1st to get a 1250 and post how that runs if i keep the RC80...it's a trade off. heck i have the very 1st RC80 ever to come out of ER so why not be the 1st to get one w/ an eheim

dont' know if i could wait that long. i'm ready to fire the ER back up.

Lunchbucket

Jim_S · 10/21/2006, 12:28 AM

In the H&S forum, I was reading through a thread in which Brian was saying that eheim got their NW from H&S, or something to that affect. So if ER is getting them from eheim, that would mean they are H&S impellers.

But IMHO, these are ER's NW's. The rumors about the eheim's with needle wheels are only for the 1250 models. ER has been saying they're coming out with things for a while now. I'm sure they didn't "just use a kit".

ER also ran eheims in the past. Does anyone know which models they used?

Jim

cerreta · 10/21/2006, 06:28 AM

The pinwheel on the ER is different from the H&S. Unless H&S changed their design, I do not see how it is possible that they are selling them to Eheim. Or, it just proves that ER is not using the Eheim kit.

IMO, ER uses their own stuff. The air intake, and elbows are the same own they have always used. Furthermore, ER uses a series of nylon spacers which were consistent with what they used on the Sedra pumps too.

If you go back to the picture page, you can see the obvious differences in the PW between the H&S and ER. Plus, the H&S used a stiff plastic, where the ER was much softer and more flexible.

However, the picture of the Eheim PW in the above photo looks more like the ER PW. It does not look anything like the H&S design.

Reefologist · 10/21/2006, 09:02 AM

Hey Tacocat, You know we are all waiting with baited breath to see pic's of your buddy's new ER. Man that thing is stuck in my head. Nice skimmer, can't wait to see the foam....happy reefkeeping.

aznepydna · 10/21/2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimdogg187
In the H&S forum, I was reading through a thread in which Brian was saying that eheim got their NW from H&S, or something to that affect. So if ER is getting them from eheim, that would mean they are H&S impellers.

But IMHO, these are ER's NW's. The rumors about the eheim's with needle wheels are only for the 1250 models. ER has been saying they're coming out with things for a while now. I'm sure they didn't "just use a kit".

ER also ran eheims in the past. Does anyone know which models they used?

Jim

My old F models have 1060's.

Lunchbucket · 10/21/2006, 10:06 AM

aznepydna - you have the old models still?? any pics.

we should start an old ER thread with pics of the 1st models w/ progress to now..that would be cool

Lunchbucket

aznepydna · 10/22/2006, 10:12 AM

Lunch- I uploaded a couple pics to my gallery. I do not use these anymore. Maybe they could be retrofited to my 12-RC-1.

Andy

tacocat · 10/23/2006, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reefologist
Hey Tacocat, You know we are all waiting with baited breath to see pic's of your buddy's new ER. Man that thing is stuck in my head. Nice skimmer, can't wait to see the foam....happy reefkeeping.

It will probably be a couple of weeks. The skimmer will be supporting several fish holding tanks at a store. The tanks haven't been setup quite yet.

Reefologist · 10/23/2006, 03:31 PM

Oh, I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Thanks in advance...happy reefkeeping.

10/20/2006, 12:21 PM	#177
tacocat Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,447	It belongs to someone I know. It was one of the first ones ER shipped out. I was playing with it and after putting all the pumps on, I thought, "I bet a people would get a kick out this." Of particular note, it does have drain valve at the bottom and a cool new decal. It also uses the same air taps the Deltec uses. My buddy should have this thing working in a couple of weeks, and maybe, just maybe if you all behave (that goes double for Lunchbucket) I will post pics of this thing in operation. I'll look into taking air readings on it also. __________________ Going to need a cleanup on aisle 3 Current Tank Info: 240g Starphire cube

10/20/2006, 12:36 PM	#179
Jim_S Timo Boll Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,333	Great tacocat! I'm interested to see what the air readings will be as well. Jim __________________ We will survive in this world of competition, shooting guns and our ammunition... Bradley Nowell Current Tank Info: We're recreating the ocean in our livings rooms. With that said, I've had some ups and downs.

10/20/2006, 03:52 PM	#181
tacocat Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,447	LB, you should get a new ER. Just do it! Life isn't a dress rehersal. It's a beauty all right, right down to the matching drain ball valve and acrylic welding. That skimmer is about 5' tall. Construction wise, it beats the Deltec that's in the garage and the acrylic is a slight step above my H&S. The gray protions of the H&S skimmer are PVC sheet, and I will have to say that the sheet work on H&S is superior. PVC seems to be more scratch resistant and easier to clean. The European PVC-U has a thinner wall thickness than US PVC, so the H&S inherently has less restrictions. You know, it will need it's own powerstrip. __________________ Going to need a cleanup on aisle 3 Current Tank Info: 240g Starphire cube

10/20/2006, 04:17 PM	#183
Jim_S Timo Boll Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,333	The outputs on the pumps are not fixed. They can be moved any way you like. Jim __________________ We will survive in this world of competition, shooting guns and our ammunition... Bradley Nowell Current Tank Info: We're recreating the ocean in our livings rooms. With that said, I've had some ups and downs.

10/20/2006, 08:07 PM	#185
Reefologist Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 374	Needle wheel and all? __________________ "Life is 5% what happens to you, and 95% how you react. Current Tank Info: 120 AGA Mega Flow w/ Oceanic model 3 sump

10/20/2006, 12:01 PM	#176
scarletknight06 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,342	tacocat, is that your ER 1500 or just a pic you found?

10/20/2006, 12:28 PM	#178
scarletknight06 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,342	sweet

10/20/2006, 03:58 PM	#182
kentrob11 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: O'Fallon, IL Posts: 4,520	I wonder why they face the pump outlets up instead of down- there's an aweful lot of wasted reaction chamber space there....

10/20/2006, 06:54 PM	#184
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	I saw this new Eheims that ER use now , somewhere as a kit that is sold by Eheim.

10/20/2006, 08:31 PM	#186
scarletknight06 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,342	yes eheim is coming out with their own needle wheel pumps. which sounds really odd to say b/c its their pump in the first place. zoom are you saying that ER is using the ones made by eheim. If true, thats probably not a bad thing.

10/20/2006, 08:37 PM	#187
Reefologist Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 374	Not a bad thing at all. __________________ "Life is 5% what happens to you, and 95% how you react. Current Tank Info: 120 AGA Mega Flow w/ Oceanic model 3 sump

10/20/2006, 09:51 PM	#189
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	That pic from the show was a 1250 __________________ - Scott

10/20/2006, 10:01 PM	#191
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	__________________ - Scott

10/20/2006, 10:57 PM	#192
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	tacocat - yeah i could get a new one i guess. what was the smallest the eheims are coming on? but i could be the 1st to get a 1250 and post how that runs if i keep the RC80...it's a trade off. heck i have the very 1st RC80 ever to come out of ER so why not be the 1st to get one w/ an eheim dont' know if i could wait that long. i'm ready to fire the ER back up. Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

10/21/2006, 12:28 AM	#193
Jim_S Timo Boll Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,333	In the H&S forum, I was reading through a thread in which Brian was saying that eheim got their NW from H&S, or something to that affect. So if ER is getting them from eheim, that would mean they are H&S impellers. But IMHO, these are ER's NW's. The rumors about the eheim's with needle wheels are only for the 1250 models. ER has been saying they're coming out with things for a while now. I'm sure they didn't "just use a kit". ER also ran eheims in the past. Does anyone know which models they used? Jim __________________ We will survive in this world of competition, shooting guns and our ammunition... Bradley Nowell Current Tank Info: We're recreating the ocean in our livings rooms. With that said, I've had some ups and downs.

10/21/2006, 06:28 AM	#194
cerreta Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,551	The pinwheel on the ER is different from the H&S. Unless H&S changed their design, I do not see how it is possible that they are selling them to Eheim. Or, it just proves that ER is not using the Eheim kit. IMO, ER uses their own stuff. The air intake, and elbows are the same own they have always used. Furthermore, ER uses a series of nylon spacers which were consistent with what they used on the Sedra pumps too. If you go back to the picture page, you can see the obvious differences in the PW between the H&S and ER. Plus, the H&S used a stiff plastic, where the ER was much softer and more flexible. However, the picture of the Eheim PW in the above photo looks more like the ER PW. It does not look anything like the H&S design. __________________ Cheers, Scott

10/21/2006, 09:02 AM	#195
Reefologist Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 374	Hey Tacocat, You know we are all waiting with baited breath to see pic's of your buddy's new ER. Man that thing is stuck in my head. Nice skimmer, can't wait to see the foam....happy reefkeeping. __________________ "Life is 5% what happens to you, and 95% how you react. Current Tank Info: 120 AGA Mega Flow w/ Oceanic model 3 sump

10/21/2006, 10:06 AM	#197
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	aznepydna - you have the old models still?? any pics. we should start an old ER thread with pics of the 1st models w/ progress to now..that would be cool Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

10/22/2006, 10:12 AM	#198
aznepydna Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Watertown, WI Posts: 302	Lunch- I uploaded a couple pics to my gallery. I do not use these anymore. Maybe they could be retrofited to my 12-RC-1. Andy

10/23/2006, 03:31 PM	#200
Reefologist Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 374	Oh, I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Thanks in advance...happy reefkeeping. __________________ "Life is 5% what happens to you, and 95% how you react. Current Tank Info: 120 AGA Mega Flow w/ Oceanic model 3 sump