Bubble Master Skimmers more info wanted???

[Creetin]

Remember the skimmer hasnt broken in yet, I am giving it a couple weeks before i do permanent changes to it.
I bet it comes around look at mavgi's

[Maximus]

For some reason, pics dont show up at work! Damn filters!

[UCanDoIt]

Originally posted by Creetin
Remember the skimmer hasnt broken in yet, I am giving it a couple weeks before i do permanent changes to it.
I bet it comes around look at mavgi's

Definitely. I didn't realized how important it is to get through the break-in period until I saw the last demo comparison that my local dealer did with LifeReef next to Deltec. Deltec already broken in and LifeReef was brand new. He ran the LifeReef in 20% vinegar solution and then rinse with warm water. Installed it in the same sump on the same tank next to the Deltec. During the first 2 weeks, he could only get wet skimming out of the LifeReef and everytime he tried to skim dry, it wouldn't produce much. Then in the 3rd week of testing, the LifeReef kicked in and I was surprised to see the comparison, not a bad performer. It's no Deltec, but worked very well.

I can't wait to see the BM200 in action, but for now, he has the BM150 up and running and only took a few minutes as it is truly plug n play.

[Creetin]

This is funny, I did the mod and seen the lower water level, Now i went downstairs after an hr to see the cupp overflowing. LOL I was like *** how could it have done this, cut the 4 way down an inch more and did the same thing the cup was filled again. LOL
I forgot i used 2 part epoxy this morning for some new frags (About 1/4 of a stick)and fed the tank. With the oils keeping the bubbles down i didnt realize the skimmer was going to go crazy from the epoxy till i dumped the second cup. LOL
Now the water level is 1.5 inches up from the bottom of the cup from cutting it down another inch. So about 5 inches lower than previously. I think the epoxy has calmed down and the skimmer looks to be normal the last hr.

[mavgi]

the truth is that i didn't run my skimmer with vingar i put it direct as is into the sump and i don't use any baffles in my sump i have just one baffle where it's the fuge area and even with my ER i let it (the outlet) run little bit top of the water like that my top water in the sump very clean and there is small circulation to avoid the oily film on top of the water in the sump.

[LA-Lawman]

my 200 is still breaking in. I havent seen a whole lot of skimmate as comapred to my euro-reef. I made a lift for the skimmer and it now sits in 6" of water rather than almost 10" i hope this helps....

mine has been running since saturday. so lets see what it does. I am going to hold off on selling my ER until this thing decides to work.

[Creetin]

Where is the bubble level, and do you have a pic of it running?

[Creetin]

Update the skimmate is darker with the 4 way on there. Not anything like mavgi's, But closer or perfect to the way i like it.
Its the darkest its been to date.
Its a cheap fix for the first wave BM250's. Plus now i can use good ole US plumbing. I plan on a couple of street elbows to direct the flow down, and i am thinking on another couple of mods, I'll leave this one on for a couple days, and then test with the next mod i have in mind.

[Maximus]

Could you take a pic of the 4 way line?

[Creetin]

Here is what it is, I called a 4 way, But its a cross T fitting.


Now that the water has 2 exit points it relieves back pressure a tad, and lowers water level. I am still testing it i'll take pics and go over how i modded the tee, and show pics of the skimmate.

[Maximus]

Ahh, I understand. This wouldnt help me now considering I cut the threadwheel. Thanks Creetin.

[UCanDoIt]

Originally posted by Maximus
Ahh, I understand. This wouldnt help me now considering I cut the threadwheel. Thanks Creetin.

If your bubble breaking level is too low within your skimmer, you need to restrict the exhaust to raise the waterlevel within the skimmer or raise the exhaust. Since the first batch is fixed, your only alternative is to put a ball or gate valve on the exhaust T. Or you can put some sort for reducer bushing... but a valve is better as you can adjust to your preference.

[Maximus]

Yes, I added a homemade reducer to the outlet pipe and this raised my water level. Here are pics just taken now. These are pics of 24hrs worth of skimming. As you can see, the skimmate is darker, but sort of minimal in quantity. I am definitely skimming on the dry side here.

[chadfarmer]

where is this being bought at?

[chadfarmer]

where is this being bought at?

[Roland Jacques]

Originally posted by chadfarmer
where is this being bought at?

Reef geek

[F35-Joint Strike Fighter]

Originally posted by Maximus
Yes, I added a homemade reducer to the outlet pipe and this raised my water level. Here are pics just taken now. These are pics of 24hrs worth of skimming. As you can see, the skimmate is darker, but sort of minimal in quantity. I am definitely skimming on the dry side here.

Sang, I think my BM250 with one eheim 1262 pump beats yours.


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day 2




I don't know why you guys are having too much troubles with this BK's brother skiimmer. It worked out excellent with me since I just got it without any information about this skimmer. it is a plug & play skimmer to me.

[LA-Lawman]

i have the bubble set to be in the neck half way up. also i get a fair amount of large bubbles in the neck not ultra fine all the time.

I am a little worried that i only get skimmate when i feed. any sugs..... Oliver if you are reading pipe in too please....

[Maximus]

I just reduced the exit pipe a little more and raised the water level. I also measured the cup's capacity and it can hold a little more than 14 cups of water! For kicks, I measured my collection cup on the Euroreef CS8-1 and it holds 6.5 cups of water. Thus, the BM250 holds more than 2x the capacity of the Euroreef cup. Here is a pic of the new water level after cleaning the cup:

[Oliver P.]

@Maximus

please stop to modify the BM. It is perfect like it is in this picture:




@F18 Hornet

It worked out excellent with me since I just got it without any information about this skimmer. it is a plug & play skimmer to me.

Yes, thats the way all BM`s used to work normally.

@LA Lawman

also i get a fair amount of large bubbles in the neck

This shows that the pumps still have a fatty film. We couldn`t degrease all pumps. So thats the reason why some starts to work earlier and some later. Please wait some more days or try to clean the pump with hot water.

@ALL

A simple Question. I realised that some of you wants a dark skimmate. Why do most of you believe that a dry skim is better ?

Greetings
Oliver

[lvpd186]

Oliver, thanks for keeping tabs on this thread. I take it from your posts that this skimmer was designed to skim primarily wet. I wouldn't say that most of us believe that dry skim is better, sometimes the appearance of the dark skim gives the impression that the skimmer is getting more stuff out while the light colored skim gives the impression that more water is being skimmed out. IMO I think there are benefits to skimming wet, primarily the skimmer (tube) doesn't get covered in gunk as much and slow down performance. I would guess that most of the other skimmers that people (the ones talking about dark or dry skim)had were either made or set to skim dry so they expected the BM to do the same out of the box. I haven't bought one of the BMs (yet) but can you post some info about how long the break-in time usually is or if all the pumps should be rinsed in hot water before being used?

[ridetheducati]

From reading threads on the other forums regarding the break-in period of the BM and BK, it looks like a minimum of two weeks is required. Many owners have noticed that their skimmers did not wake up until week two or three.

I agree with Oliver, Maximus do not make any more adjustments. I think the BK will begin to "wake-up" any day now.

[Charlie Davidson]

roflmao, Max, you did pay for that skimmer..?

[LA-Lawman]

Oliver....

thanks for the tip. i will give it a try...

[LA-Lawman]

Oliver,

do you have a pic of a BM200 running with the sicci pump... I would love to see what i am to expect. or anyone else for that matter....