Avalanche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rockitmakr · 02/25/2007, 10:54 AM

I always knew that this was going to happen & last night my suspicion was confirmed. Back when I set this tank up I used some small pieces of rock in the center of my display & piled them in such a way that it could br knocked over by a snail eating algae off the glass behind the rock. I thought I had the rock placed sturdy but those little buggers tipped everything over.

Enough with the sob story...My question is....How can I glue rockwork & frags to the rockwork...Underwater?? Can this be done or am I screwed? I know there is an expert out there that can help my rebuild my hemorrhoid of a tank.

Chaotic Reefer4u · 02/25/2007, 11:09 AM

Good Day Rockitmakr, i would use some epoxy and stick the frag's and coral's on the rock's or dremel some hole's in the live rock and put some pvc tubing in there to hold the rock's from falling, people on here have done it and are still doing it, hope this help's...

zisbell · 02/25/2007, 04:23 PM

Duro is the best brand super glue to use, I glue corals all the time under water with it, but make sure its the gel.

syrinx · 02/25/2007, 04:33 PM

And if you go the epoxy route don`t forget to keep a eye on the skimmer. It can def react in a big way if you get enough in there to hold the rockwork together.

aquarius77 · 02/25/2007, 05:16 PM

I second the duro gel, it is some super strong stuff and fairly inexpensive.

Rockitmakr · 02/26/2007, 07:43 AM

Thank you for the replies, I have heard of the Duro Gel method before. I will try both.

RTKBA308 · 02/26/2007, 12:38 PM

I have used Aquastik epoxy from F&S. My skimmer had no response to it, and my rock is still held together, albeit it's only been a month in my tank.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...pc=1&N=0&Nty=1

Rockitmakr · 02/26/2007, 12:56 PM

All done!...I think it looks better now than before. Glad it is finally finished, for now....

jecarl2 · 02/26/2007, 01:14 PM

I've used the underwater epoxy, and it seems to lose its hold after a few months. I use superglue gel now.

RTKBA308 · 02/26/2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by jecarl2
I've used the underwater epoxy, and it seems to lose its hold after a few months. I use superglue gel now.

I had a feeling that would happen over time. I may throw some superglue on mine as well.

StephM33 · 02/26/2007, 01:31 PM

So the Superglue doesn't give off anything toxic in the water? That's really surprising but it's a cool idea. We have a snowflake who burrows like crazy under the rock, and although he hasn't caused any problem so far, it definitely seems like it could happen as he's making new burrows all the time.

Steph

Rockitmakr · 02/26/2007, 04:00 PM

I was given a secret by a "Frag God", he told me to use BOTH epoxy & gel. Use gel on frag..Put epoxy on gel...Put gel on epoxy and apply it to the rock or glass, wherever you want the frag to go...It worked great! Skimmer was fine and everything else is great too!

zisbell · 02/26/2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by StephM33
So the Superglue doesn't give off anything toxic in the water? That's really surprising but it's a cool idea. We have a snowflake who burrows like crazy under the rock, and although he hasn't caused any problem so far, it definitely seems like it could happen as he's making new burrows all the time.

Steph

Yea those or an engineer goby.

02/25/2007, 10:54 AM	#1
Rockitmakr Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Merritt Island, Florida Posts: 630	Avalanche!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always knew that this was going to happen & last night my suspicion was confirmed. Back when I set this tank up I used some small pieces of rock in the center of my display & piled them in such a way that it could br knocked over by a snail eating algae off the glass behind the rock. I thought I had the rock placed sturdy but those little buggers tipped everything over. Enough with the sob story...My question is....How can I glue rockwork & frags to the rockwork...Underwater?? Can this be done or am I screwed? I know there is an expert out there that can help my rebuild my hemorrhoid of a tank. __________________ Cheers & Happy Reefing! "You win some, lose some, and wreck some."- Dale Earnhardt. Current Tank Info: 250 Gal. Reef with Softies and SPS-LPS's. A few fishies as well.

02/25/2007, 11:09 AM	#2
Chaotic Reefer4u ♥Acropora Aficionado♥ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hollister,Ca. Posts: 5,163	Good Day Rockitmakr, i would use some epoxy and stick the frag's and coral's on the rock's or dremel some hole's in the live rock and put some pvc tubing in there to hold the rock's from falling, people on here have done it and are still doing it, hope this help's... __________________ Live everyday as if it was your last, take time to smell the flowers, enjoy all things living, never take anything for granted, you just never know when your number might be up... Current Tank Info: * 90g. Reef Ready TruVu tank with 30g. Platinum Filtration Series Sump SpS Acro enthusiast *

02/25/2007, 04:23 PM	#3
zisbell Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 56	Duro is the best brand super glue to use, I glue corals all the time under water with it, but make sure its the gel. __________________ ~Zack, 48" 65 gallon mixed reef, led, 20 gallon sump~ ~125 gallon reef- drained because of seam leak~ Current Tank Info: 48" 65 gallon

02/25/2007, 04:33 PM	#4
syrinx Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: champaign Posts: 3,160	And if you go the epoxy route don`t forget to keep a eye on the skimmer. It can def react in a big way if you get enough in there to hold the rockwork together. __________________ My views are based on 49years as an aquarist, 25 years as a pro reef consultant, 10 years of owning a LFS, and the results of thousands of customers tanks. But I am always learning.

02/26/2007, 07:43 AM	#6
Rockitmakr Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Merritt Island, Florida Posts: 630	Thank you for the replies, I have heard of the Duro Gel method before. I will try both. __________________ Cheers & Happy Reefing! "You win some, lose some, and wreck some."- Dale Earnhardt. Current Tank Info: 250 Gal. Reef with Softies and SPS-LPS's. A few fishies as well.

02/25/2007, 05:16 PM	#5
aquarius77 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Highland, Il Posts: 2,198	I second the duro gel, it is some super strong stuff and fairly inexpensive.

02/26/2007, 12:38 PM	#7
RTKBA308 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 521	I have used Aquastik epoxy from F&S. My skimmer had no response to it, and my rock is still held together, albeit it's only been a month in my tank. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...pc=1&N=0&Nty=1

02/26/2007, 12:56 PM	#8
Rockitmakr Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Merritt Island, Florida Posts: 630	All done!...I think it looks better now than before. Glad it is finally finished, for now.... __________________ Cheers & Happy Reefing! "You win some, lose some, and wreck some."- Dale Earnhardt. Current Tank Info: 250 Gal. Reef with Softies and SPS-LPS's. A few fishies as well.

02/26/2007, 01:14 PM	#9
jecarl2 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Near Memphis Posts: 121	I've used the underwater epoxy, and it seems to lose its hold after a few months. I use superglue gel now.

02/26/2007, 01:31 PM	#11
StephM33 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 101	So the Superglue doesn't give off anything toxic in the water? That's really surprising but it's a cool idea. We have a snowflake who burrows like crazy under the rock, and although he hasn't caused any problem so far, it definitely seems like it could happen as he's making new burrows all the time. Steph

02/26/2007, 04:00 PM	#12
Rockitmakr Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Merritt Island, Florida Posts: 630	I was given a secret by a "Frag God", he told me to use BOTH epoxy & gel. Use gel on frag..Put epoxy on gel...Put gel on epoxy and apply it to the rock or glass, wherever you want the frag to go...It worked great! Skimmer was fine and everything else is great too! __________________ Cheers & Happy Reefing! "You win some, lose some, and wreck some."- Dale Earnhardt. Current Tank Info: 250 Gal. Reef with Softies and SPS-LPS's. A few fishies as well.