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Unread 02/25/2007, 10:33 PM   #1
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Best Protein skimmer for 60 gal.

Hi, I'm planning a 58 gal. oceanic sps tank and was wondering what would be the best and most cost effective skimmer for this tank?How would you rate the seaclone skimmer?
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Unread 02/26/2007, 06:11 AM   #2
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very cost effective if you dont have that many fishes in your tank. However, you should consider long term goals with the hobby. Should you think about going different routes or upgrading, the system u choose will help immensly in the future.

i notice that you are a student... I think that a seaclone will work just fine if you are on a budget constraint.

I dont know if you have a local fish club, but if you do, there are always people getting in and out of the hobby and you may be able to get a high end skimmer for a fraction of the cost.


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Unread 02/26/2007, 07:06 AM   #3
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Get a D & D typhoon, there 59.99 on ebay brand new. They work excellent and collect a ton of skimmate, nasty skimmate. Work easily and aren't to large. A seaclown? Very bad skimmer. Do not waste your money as they are way overpriced and may work for a 10g tank. I had a seaclown before i knew any better a long time ago, threw it in the trash and got an aqua c remora pro, also think the pro is a piece of trash. Moved to a sump and much happier, but as for a hot skimmer, the D & D is the best for the price and performance. If you want to see some pics look at Kodyboy's gallery, there's a few in there.


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:17 AM   #4
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for an sps tank definetly dont waste time with those skimmers i would get the octopuss NW150
the seaclone and typhoon are out of their element in an sps tank
skimmers are so important on sps tanks


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:18 AM   #5
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Get a D & D typhoon, there 59.99 on ebay brand new. They work excellent and collect a ton of skimmate, nasty skimmate. Work easily and aren't to large. A seaclown? Very bad skimmer. Do not waste your money as they are way overpriced and may work for a 10g tank. I had a seaclown before i knew any better a long time ago, threw it in the trash and got an aqua c remora pro, also think the pro is a piece of trash. Moved to a sump and much happier, but as for a hot skimmer, the D & D is the best for the price and performance. If you want to see some pics look at Kodyboy's gallery, there's a few in there.
oceanic 58 is reef ready he will have a sump so hang on skimmers would be pointless


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:29 AM   #6
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On an SPS tank dont mess around with budget skimmers, you will just end up spending more money in the end each time you have to upgrade. Other good points are what your long term goal is? Will you upgrade your tank in a few years? Always get a skimmer that is rated so its possible to upgrade tanks. I know skimmers can be pricey, but its the most important peice of equipment. I would look at Deltec and other skimmers that are tryed and true, try and avoid these fly by night companies, that sound like a good deal. I have used many skimmers and have done an incredable amount of reading and research. I highly recommend Deltec, also H&S, I am not a big fan of ASM, or anything you need to tinker with to get it to work better. just my 2 cents!


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:32 AM   #7
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Oh, thought you were looking for a hot skimmer, if you are going to have a sump, yes go with a in sump skimmer, much better than hot skimmers. And on a budget an octypus would be great.


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:43 AM   #8
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On an SPS tank dont mess around with budget skimmers, you will just end up spending more money in the end each time you have to upgrade. Other good points are what your long term goal is? Will you upgrade your tank in a few years? Always get a skimmer that is rated so its possible to upgrade tanks. I know skimmers can be pricey, but its the most important peice of equipment. I would look at Deltec and other skimmers that are tryed and true, try and avoid these fly by night companies, that sound like a good deal. I have used many skimmers and have done an incredable amount of reading and research. I highly recommend Deltec, also H&S, I am not a big fan of ASM, or anything you need to tinker with to get it to work better. just my 2 cents!
i agree i highly reccomend the deltecs


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:48 AM   #9
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ER RS80 promo for $180.


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:52 AM   #10
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i saw a ER rs 80 for 220 on sale yesterday so 180 is a great price
there are lots of good skimmers and only a few bad ones
seaclone is definetly on the bad side


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Unread 02/26/2007, 10:07 AM   #11
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If you are going to go ER, I would get the RS135, i think the RS80 is to small for a 60 gallon SPS tank.


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Unread 02/26/2007, 01:43 PM   #12
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Re: Best Protein skimmer for 60 gal.

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Hi, I'm planning a 58 gal. oceanic sps tank and was wondering what would be the best and most cost effective skimmer for this tank?How would you rate the seaclone skimmer?
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Will you have a sump for your skimmer?


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Unread 02/26/2007, 04:34 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the reply's guy's. I'm just a high school student so my dad helps me out alot, so forget about what I said about cheap. This isn't my first sps tank, I've kept quite a few smaller sps tanks with success, but with such a small tank and practically no fish I never found the need for a skimmer. So, for this Tank (my current cichlid aquarium) I was thinking about a MegaFlow Sump Filter. What are your opinions on the Berlin Turbo Protein Skimmers? thanks.


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Unread 02/26/2007, 05:42 PM   #14
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berlin turbos are not as good as the deltecs and euroreef skimmers
you can get the megaflow for a sump or you could just use a regular tank and silicone in the baffles yourself. that way you can have a fuge as well


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Unread 02/26/2007, 08:55 PM   #15
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What size tank would you recommend for the sump?


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:03 PM   #16
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Also, can you give me a link to the exact deltec skimmer you would recommend for my tank. Thanks.


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Unread 02/26/2007, 09:08 PM   #17
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as big of a sump as you can fit under or behind the tank
i would post tank size and what you want to keep in the deltec forum they will help you pick the right one for sure


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Unread 02/26/2007, 11:29 PM   #18
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Thumbs up Tunze 9010

I recommend a Tunze 9010 skimmer for its flexibility, compact size, and quiet operation.

It can be used initially in the main aquarium and later reconfigured for a future sump. Few skimmers have such flexibility.

The Tunze 9010 is compact and can fit into small sumps. Your 58-gallon Oceanic aquarium is only 36.5 inches long. If you want the sump to fit underneath the aquarium in a cabinet, it cannot be more than 24 inches long with an external pump or more than 30 inches long with a submerged return pump. Unless you want to place your skimmer on a platform, the sump should not be more than 12 inches high. This leaves you with a 20-gallon long tank (30” x 12” x 12”) or a 15-gallon tank (24” x 12” x 12”) for a sump. The Tunze can easily fit into such small sumps and leave room for a refugium compartment or a large return compartment for water changes.

The Tunze is quiet enough to be inaudible a few feet away. It is effective and collects a cup (200ml-300ml) of wet skim daily from my heavily stocked system. The Tunze forum in Reef Central is very supportive with Roger Vitko of Tunze answering almost every thread.


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Unread 02/27/2007, 01:25 AM   #19
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Unread 02/27/2007, 09:37 AM   #20
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Also, can you give me a link to the exact deltec skimmer you would recommend for my tank. Thanks.
http://www.deltecusa.us/proteinskimmers/apf600.php

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http://www.deltecusa.us/proteinskimmers/ap600.php

Those are 2 great skimmers!


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Bubbleking 200 external.
LOL so much for cost effective.


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Theyre also absolutely awful in a price/performance comparison. They also get absolutely smoked by the equivalent H&S, which is about 40% cheaper. H&S also supports their products, which in my experience, Deltec doesnt.


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Theyre also absolutely awful in a price/performance comparison. They also get absolutely smoked by the equivalent H&S, which is about 40% cheaper. H&S also supports their products, which in my experience, Deltec doesnt.
How many Deltecs have you owned?


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