Fish decision!

mccarty30 · 02/27/2007, 08:08 PM

I need suggestions on which goby to get. Here are my choices....
Scissortail Goby
Shrimpgoby - Banded
Shrimpgoby - Barbershop
Shrimpgoby - Orange Spotted
Shrimpgoby - Pink & Blue
Shrimpgoby - Randalli
Shrimpgoby - Tangaroa
Shrimpgoby - Yellow Watchman

I have a 55 gal. Currently in it is 10 snails, 10 blueleg crabs, percula clowns, sabae anemone, 1 damsel, 1 cleaner shrimp. 65lbs LR, 55lbs LS. Here is the most recent pic.

And i want to add another fish of some kind maybe a angel.

Any suggestions?

zma21 · 02/27/2007, 08:20 PM

Firefish Goby.

EdKruzel · 02/27/2007, 08:22 PM

I would suggest to rearrange your rockwork. The straight up wall looks just like that, a wall of round boulders upon one another.

Think smaller rubble piles of numerous crevices and overhangs; you have plenty of rock in the tank to accomplish this.

I would attempt one area no higher than mid point of the tank coming from the rear corner and extending toward the center front. Next pile would be at a 45 degree angle in the left corner. Be sure to leave space between the rock and the glass for ease of cleaning and good circulation.

Google some dive pics for inspiration and allow the artistic side in you and your family create a natural home for your fishy friends.

As to an angel, a nice Coral Beauty would highlight what you already have in the tank.

Good Luck

mccarty30 · 02/27/2007, 08:29 PM

zma21.........
Do you have experience with the firsfish goby? I read they are jumpers and will jump right out the tank.

EdKruzel...
Thanks for the advice on the rock. I kinda like it like it is but i will definetly do as you say and google some pics to see if i can find something different.

I'm very new at this and i've already changed it like 5 times and i'm sure it will change again. Thanks for the suggestion.

kmf507 · 02/27/2007, 08:40 PM

Your rock looks fine. Why critique something that is purely personal tastes? That's like you asking about a fish and I say,

"I don't like the color of your stand."

A flame angel is a beautiful fish and would do well in a 55. I do not have much experience with the fish you mentioned.

mccarty30 · 02/27/2007, 08:48 PM

kmf507.....

Your flame angel is beautiful in your pics!
I was thinking of a coral beauty or a flame angel. I like the brightness of the Flame.

I am new and if my rock is wrong or whatever i dont mind changing it. I have looked at alot of peoples pics on here and alot look like mine thats where i got the idea. But anyways thanks!

kmf507 · 02/27/2007, 08:51 PM

I think your rock looks great! There's no such thing as having your rock set up "wrong."

You've got a beautiful tank.

jus10kase · 02/27/2007, 08:59 PM

I have a pair of the Barbershop Gobies, coming tomorrow w/pistol shrimp.

mccarty30 · 02/27/2007, 09:15 PM

maybe is was the angel. Who knows.

Anyway back to the fish!

jus10kase...
I do like the little babershop goby. should you buy these in pairs or you just wanted two?

mccarty30 · 02/27/2007, 09:16 PM

Oh yes and is the pistol shrimp something they like?

Where do you order from?

mccarty30 · 02/27/2007, 09:40 PM

Any more suggestions on FISH?

EdKruzel · 02/27/2007, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmf507
I think your rock looks great! There's no such thing as having your rock set up "wrong."

You've got a beautiful tank.

mccarty30,
I apologize, I wasn't trying to offend, only make suggestions. There are actually "wrong" ways to set up your rock. Some stack it too high and leave it unstable, which can easily cause rock to tumble and kill livestock or crack the aquarium. Others pack it too tight and push it firmly against the glass causing dead spots and detritus traps.

Darkened caves/crevices and overhangs look a bit more natural than a basic wall and provide better sanctuary for the fish kept. This in return will ease any stress and provide healthier and longer lived specimens.

When it comes to aesthetic appearances, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and the only "wrong" approach is the one you yourself aren't pleased with.

EdKruzel · 02/27/2007, 10:01 PM

As to the fish, I still recommend a Coral Beauty so as to mix up a little different color than your clowns. (But the Flame is my favorite angel).

mccarty30 · 02/27/2007, 11:59 PM

Thank you! And i have been looking at some pics as you suggested. Trying to decide what i want to do with this thing.

magdelan · 02/28/2007, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EdKruzel
Darkened caves/crevices and overhangs look a bit more natural than a basic wall and provide better sanctuary for the fish kept. This in return will ease any stress and provide healthier and longer lived specimens.

When it comes to aesthetic appearances, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and the only "wrong" approach is the one you yourself aren't pleased with.

Very well put!!!

DrBCool · 02/28/2007, 07:22 AM

I have both a firefish and a purple firefish and neither of mine have even come close to the surface of my tank .. Everything I have read says JUMPERS .. lol .. May depend on the fish

I also have a Yellow clown goby and he is so cool to watch ... He made his home on one of my mushrooms in the tank

mccarty30 · 02/28/2007, 03:48 PM

Ok i have a hood on my tank so not to worried about the jumping. What about a yellow watchman? The supplier i am using just dont have a good selection.

mccarty30 · 02/28/2007, 10:42 PM

Today i went to LFS and found a 6 line wrasse. Beautiful! Still trying to figure out what goby i want.

lat0403 · 03/01/2007, 12:10 AM

I'm getting a yellow watchman. Or maybe a wheeler's watchman. The shrimp gobies are cool fish.

Are you sure your rock is stable? You should probably be careful with things that dig.

mccarty30 · 03/01/2007, 01:22 AM

Yeah i'm thinking that to. Gonna make a few changes but just not sure what i'm going to do yet. Will do so before goby is added. I think the yellow watchman is the neatest i saw one at the LFS today. They are full of personality!

brownsugar · 03/01/2007, 01:55 AM

How long has your tank been setup and do you have a fuge ?

brownsugar · 03/01/2007, 02:07 AM

Yes sorry another vote for a dwarf angel - bi-colour, cherub, flame or coral beauty take your pick.

How about a flame hawkfish ? Not too sure on it myself dunno how it is with shrimp and i heard they can harass gobies from time to time you don't want to rule out the many interesting species of them in the future but it has alot of character.

jus10kase · 03/01/2007, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mccarty30
Oh yes and is the pistol shrimp something they like?

Where do you order from?

I just wanted a pair, and the pistol shrimp they should share the burrow with. Little relationship thing they have.
I ordered mine from Marine Depot Live, cause they were the only one had the gobies,shrimp, and some Barred Dartfish in stock at same time. And my few LFS`s dont ever get em(cept Mr. Petman gets one now and then)

On the dwarf angels; I`m prob gonna get a Rusty, or maybe a Black, seems everyove gets a Flame or Coral Beauty(just to be different)

mccarty30 · 03/01/2007, 11:37 AM

Tank has been up and going for 6 1/2 weeks. Levels are great LFS said my levels are better than theirs. Hopefully things will continue this way. All of my rock was from previously setup tank. So it really helped. No Fuge.
Will look into flame hawkfish thanks.

Sk8r · 03/01/2007, 11:50 AM

Be careful of the wrasses with small gobies. I had a filamented fairy wrasse kill 3 before I got him out.

02/27/2007, 08:08 PM	#1
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	Fish decision! I need suggestions on which goby to get. Here are my choices.... Scissortail Goby Shrimpgoby - Banded Shrimpgoby - Barbershop Shrimpgoby - Orange Spotted Shrimpgoby - Pink & Blue Shrimpgoby - Randalli Shrimpgoby - Tangaroa Shrimpgoby - Yellow Watchman I have a 55 gal. Currently in it is 10 snails, 10 blueleg crabs, percula clowns, sabae anemone, 1 damsel, 1 cleaner shrimp. 65lbs LR, 55lbs LS. Here is the most recent pic. And i want to add another fish of some kind maybe a angel. Any suggestions? __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/27/2007, 08:20 PM	#2
zma21 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NOLA Posts: 1,453	Firefish Goby. __________________ SCA 50 Starfire: In Progress Current Tank Info: 20 High -> 40 Cube -> Nanocube 12 DX -> 25 Gallon Rimless -> 10 Gallon AGA Temporary Tank -> JBJ 24 LED -> SCA Starfire 50 Cube

02/27/2007, 08:22 PM	#3
EdKruzel Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 7,384	I would suggest to rearrange your rockwork. The straight up wall looks just like that, a wall of round boulders upon one another. Think smaller rubble piles of numerous crevices and overhangs; you have plenty of rock in the tank to accomplish this. I would attempt one area no higher than mid point of the tank coming from the rear corner and extending toward the center front. Next pile would be at a 45 degree angle in the left corner. Be sure to leave space between the rock and the glass for ease of cleaning and good circulation. Google some dive pics for inspiration and allow the artistic side in you and your family create a natural home for your fishy friends. As to an angel, a nice Coral Beauty would highlight what you already have in the tank. Good Luck __________________ When you find yourself in "Deep Water" it's best to keep your mouth shut! Current Tank Info: 65RR Cube Mixed Reef

02/27/2007, 08:29 PM	#4
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	zma21......... Do you have experience with the firsfish goby? I read they are jumpers and will jump right out the tank. EdKruzel... Thanks for the advice on the rock. I kinda like it like it is but i will definetly do as you say and google some pics to see if i can find something different. I'm very new at this and i've already changed it like 5 times and i'm sure it will change again. Thanks for the suggestion. __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/27/2007, 08:48 PM	#6
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	kmf507..... Your flame angel is beautiful in your pics! I was thinking of a coral beauty or a flame angel. I like the brightness of the Flame. I am new and if my rock is wrong or whatever i dont mind changing it. I have looked at alot of peoples pics on here and alot look like mine thats where i got the idea. But anyways thanks! __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/27/2007, 08:40 PM	#5
kmf507 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 669	Your rock looks fine. Why critique something that is purely personal tastes? That's like you asking about a fish and I say, "I don't like the color of your stand." A flame angel is a beautiful fish and would do well in a 55. I do not have much experience with the fish you mentioned.

02/27/2007, 08:51 PM	#7
kmf507 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 669	I think your rock looks great! There's no such thing as having your rock set up "wrong." You've got a beautiful tank.

02/27/2007, 08:59 PM	#8
jus10kase Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Fl Posts: 227	I have a pair of the Barbershop Gobies, coming tomorrow w/pistol shrimp. __________________ If you walked a mile in my shoes........ I wouldn`t want them back! Current Tank Info: 55g since June 06 now 120g, since maybe 09.

02/27/2007, 09:15 PM	#9
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	maybe is was the angel. Who knows. Anyway back to the fish! jus10kase... I do like the little babershop goby. should you buy these in pairs or you just wanted two? __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/27/2007, 09:16 PM	#10
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	Oh yes and is the pistol shrimp something they like? Where do you order from? __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/27/2007, 09:40 PM	#11
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	more Any more suggestions on FISH? __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/27/2007, 10:01 PM	#13
EdKruzel Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 7,384	As to the fish, I still recommend a Coral Beauty so as to mix up a little different color than your clowns. (But the Flame is my favorite angel). __________________ When you find yourself in "Deep Water" it's best to keep your mouth shut! Current Tank Info: 65RR Cube Mixed Reef

02/27/2007, 11:59 PM	#14
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	Thank you! And i have been looking at some pics as you suggested. Trying to decide what i want to do with this thing. __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/28/2007, 07:22 AM	#16
DrBCool Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Athens Posts: 235	I have both a firefish and a purple firefish and neither of mine have even come close to the surface of my tank .. Everything I have read says JUMPERS .. lol .. May depend on the fish I also have a Yellow clown goby and he is so cool to watch ... He made his home on one of my mushrooms in the tank

02/28/2007, 03:48 PM	#17
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	Ok i have a hood on my tank so not to worried about the jumping. What about a yellow watchman? The supplier i am using just dont have a good selection. __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

02/28/2007, 10:42 PM	#18
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	Today i went to LFS and found a 6 line wrasse. Beautiful! Still trying to figure out what goby i want. __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

03/01/2007, 12:10 AM	#19
lat0403 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 220	I'm getting a yellow watchman. Or maybe a wheeler's watchman. The shrimp gobies are cool fish. Are you sure your rock is stable? You should probably be careful with things that dig.

03/01/2007, 01:22 AM	#20
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	Yeah i'm thinking that to. Gonna make a few changes but just not sure what i'm going to do yet. Will do so before goby is added. I think the yellow watchman is the neatest i saw one at the LFS today. They are full of personality! __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

03/01/2007, 01:55 AM	#21
brownsugar Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 194	How long has your tank been setup and do you have a fuge ?

03/01/2007, 02:07 AM	#22
brownsugar Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 194	Yes sorry another vote for a dwarf angel - bi-colour, cherub, flame or coral beauty take your pick. How about a flame hawkfish ? Not too sure on it myself dunno how it is with shrimp and i heard they can harass gobies from time to time you don't want to rule out the many interesting species of them in the future but it has alot of character.

03/01/2007, 11:37 AM	#24
mccarty30 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 79	Tank has been up and going for 6 1/2 weeks. Levels are great LFS said my levels are better than theirs. Hopefully things will continue this way. All of my rock was from previously setup tank. So it really helped. No Fuge. Will look into flame hawkfish thanks. __________________ Angie and John Current Tank Info: 100 gallon and 55 gallon reef tanks

03/01/2007, 11:50 AM	#25
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Be careful of the wrasses with small gobies. I had a filamented fairy wrasse kill 3 before I got him out. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.