The symbol on Garbage cans that makes them safe to use

Seehag · 03/18/2007, 04:38 PM

I read awhile back about a certain symbol on the bottom of the rubbermaid, or other type, garbage cans that make them safe to use for waterholding and cureing rock. Could someone post that again, I think it also makes them food safe...

Art

xenon · 03/18/2007, 04:41 PM

All I know is Brute garbage cans made by rubbermaid are food grade safe. I use them for RODI water storage and most ppl in this forum do also.

Seehag · 03/18/2007, 04:46 PM

Thank's for the fast reply, where do you get them? Home Depot, osh, or lowes?

Art

Pistonkev · 03/18/2007, 04:58 PM

Look for NSF that is food safe grade.

Seehag · 03/18/2007, 05:02 PM

Nsf ok Piston. found the Brutes 44 gallon at Home depot for 39.95. I know where some wheels are at work. Maybe this weekend I will fil with ro/di and order rock. Getting excited now.

Art

Snowboarda42 · 03/18/2007, 05:18 PM

I would venture to say that most all would be safe as long as they haven't been used and are clean...

Pistonkev · 03/18/2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowboarda42
I would venture to say that most all would be safe as long as they haven't been used and are clean...

Don't bank on that if it is not NSF don't use it.

Snowboarda42 · 03/18/2007, 05:47 PM

I stand corrected.

Pistonkev · 03/18/2007, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowboarda42
I stand corrected.

How is your new tank doing? Have you set it up yet?

Seehag · 03/18/2007, 06:08 PM

Not yet, I ran into money issues so it set for 6 month's. Now lot's of O.T. later and I am ready, I am going to finish up the last little bit this week then fill it next weekend, I need to get the garbage can to hold the water change water.. I hope you were asking me...

Art

84jeepjohn · 03/19/2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pistonkev
Don't bank on that if it is not NSF don't use it.

crap, I just got a rubbermaid trash can for my RO water. I never looked to see if it's ok. It was a 34gal trash can at wal mart for about 10-15$. Where would I look for the info?

gistsc · 03/19/2007, 01:18 PM

Going to look at my Rubbermaids right now!

gistsc · 03/19/2007, 01:21 PM

Crap, hard to look at the bottom of the container when it has 10 gals of water in it. Oh well, I will look next time they are empty. Anyways, I have been using them for three weeks now and I do not see any adverse affects. One of them has the critters and rock from my old set up in it. All snails and crabs look OK. Pencil urchin looks good to, other than the algae growing on him.

Pistonkev · 03/19/2007, 01:49 PM

Most Rubbermaids are NSF that I have seen.

IRISSERVICE · 03/19/2007, 01:52 PM

All rubbermaid brutes in Grey ,white , and yellow are nsf.. other colors are not. PS only brute line...

superedge88 · 03/19/2007, 01:54 PM

I agree with the NSF, but I thought there was another abbreviation that was safe, one that was the abbreviation for polythylene?

yakfishin · 03/19/2007, 02:31 PM

In my experience, most rubber containers are usually not noted as being food safe- but are clearly labeled if they are not. It cost more to produce a container that contains mold and bacteria inhibitors, so if the company is going to go through the extra expense of making a "non food safe" container, then it will be labeled as containing anti-mold and anti-bacterial compounds. At least this is what I have always heard, and it makes sense to me.

gixxer600 · 03/19/2007, 04:16 PM

It should have a No. 1 or 2 in a triangle on the bottom of the can. 1 or 2 represents that it is safe for food storage.

Seehag · 03/19/2007, 07:16 PM

Stopped at osh today and they only have gray cans and not brute. They have a ldpe and triangle with a number 4 in the middle. I guess that makes them non food compatible. I will go to Home Depot tomorrow, theres are blue though.

Art

Seehag · 03/19/2007, 08:51 PM

Thought I might paste this link to Rubbermaid for info on the brute containers. I sent them an email to confirm that they are safe to use for what we want to use them for. I can find no info on this page that say's they are ok or not ok. I looked in the chemical reaction sheet and salt will not affect it. It appears that the color of the product has nothing to do with wether it is food grade or not. I will post whatever they send back to me soon.

http://www.rcpworksmarter.com/rcp/pr...rcpNum=2643-60

Art

MimicTang · 03/19/2007, 09:18 PM

You want a 2 in the recycle symbol. Stands for HDPE ( high density polyethylene. Most collection garbage plastic cans are made of it as its super duper tough. Also super duper inert.

mwwhite · 03/20/2007, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MimicTang
You want a 2 in the recycle symbol. Stands for HDPE ( high density polyethylene. Most collection garbage plastic cans are made of it as its super duper tough. Also super duper inert.

Rubbermaid BRUTE trash cans have 4 in the recycle symbol (LDPE). At least the grey ones do. They also include NSF.

joekr · 03/20/2007, 09:13 AM

So the brute cans w/ a 4 are not safe for water storage? Just want to be sure before I start using one for my ro/di water..

gixxer600 · 03/20/2007, 09:19 AM

All the Rubbermaid Brute cans at my local Home Depot rated 2 and safe for food storage.

Frick-n-Frags · 03/20/2007, 09:23 AM

when recycling, our deal is up to #2 only. It seems all the stuff like mustard jars etc are 4 through 7. so I think those are the more durable safer plastics aimed at longterm food storage

BTW,I found a galvanized steel reenforcement ring in one of my trashcans. It wasn't for the tank, but my first thought was "that would suck to not see that and use it for the system".

03/18/2007, 04:38 PM	#1
Seehag Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 351	The symbol on Garbage cans that makes them safe to use I read awhile back about a certain symbol on the bottom of the rubbermaid, or other type, garbage cans that make them safe to use for waterholding and cureing rock. Could someone post that again, I think it also makes them food safe... Art __________________ 100 gal Tru vue acrylic tank Home made sump refugium Aquac Ev-180 skimmer Velocity t4 closed loop pump 6 3' compact flourescent 10k lamps Tbs Package for 110 gal Current Tank Info: Just started my Reef

03/18/2007, 04:46 PM	#3
Seehag Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 351	Thank's for the fast reply, where do you get them? Home Depot, osh, or lowes? Art __________________ 100 gal Tru vue acrylic tank Home made sump refugium Aquac Ev-180 skimmer Velocity t4 closed loop pump 6 3' compact flourescent 10k lamps Tbs Package for 110 gal Current Tank Info: Just started my Reef

03/18/2007, 05:02 PM	#5
Seehag Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 351	Nsf ok Piston. found the Brutes 44 gallon at Home depot for 39.95. I know where some wheels are at work. Maybe this weekend I will fil with ro/di and order rock. Getting excited now. Art __________________ 100 gal Tru vue acrylic tank Home made sump refugium Aquac Ev-180 skimmer Velocity t4 closed loop pump 6 3' compact flourescent 10k lamps Tbs Package for 110 gal Current Tank Info: Just started my Reef

03/18/2007, 05:18 PM	#6
Snowboarda42 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 1,094	I would venture to say that most all would be safe as long as they haven't been used and are clean... __________________ 40B Mixed Reef 100% Captive Grown Corals See, that's the trouble with the world today. Not enough danger to kill off stupid people before they get old enough to breed. Bring back lawn darts! -PrivateJoker64 Current Tank Info: 40B, 20L Sump/Fuge, Mag 9.5 Return, 2x Hydor Koralia #2's, 150W 14K HQI, 139W T-5, Euro-Reef RS-80P Mesh Modded, 40LB LR, 80LB LS, 54x Turnover, Mostly SPS, Some Softys Too.

03/18/2007, 05:47 PM	#8
Snowboarda42 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 1,094	I stand corrected. __________________ 40B Mixed Reef 100% Captive Grown Corals See, that's the trouble with the world today. Not enough danger to kill off stupid people before they get old enough to breed. Bring back lawn darts! -PrivateJoker64 Current Tank Info: 40B, 20L Sump/Fuge, Mag 9.5 Return, 2x Hydor Koralia #2's, 150W 14K HQI, 139W T-5, Euro-Reef RS-80P Mesh Modded, 40LB LR, 80LB LS, 54x Turnover, Mostly SPS, Some Softys Too.

03/18/2007, 04:41 PM	#2
xenon Owner of Canada Corals Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississauga, Canada Posts: 3,148	All I know is Brute garbage cans made by rubbermaid are food grade safe. I use them for RODI water storage and most ppl in this forum do also.

03/18/2007, 04:58 PM	#4
Pistonkev Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 1,107	Look for NSF that is food safe grade.

03/18/2007, 06:08 PM	#10
Seehag Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 351	Not yet, I ran into money issues so it set for 6 month's. Now lot's of O.T. later and I am ready, I am going to finish up the last little bit this week then fill it next weekend, I need to get the garbage can to hold the water change water.. I hope you were asking me... Art __________________ 100 gal Tru vue acrylic tank Home made sump refugium Aquac Ev-180 skimmer Velocity t4 closed loop pump 6 3' compact flourescent 10k lamps Tbs Package for 110 gal Current Tank Info: Just started my Reef

03/19/2007, 01:18 PM	#12
gistsc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California, USA Posts: 131	Going to look at my Rubbermaids right now! __________________ 29 gal tank LPS w/10 gal fuge 60 lbs LR Shallow sand bed started 3/1/2007 Current Tank Info: 29 gal reef

03/19/2007, 01:21 PM	#13
gistsc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California, USA Posts: 131	Crap, hard to look at the bottom of the container when it has 10 gals of water in it. Oh well, I will look next time they are empty. Anyways, I have been using them for three weeks now and I do not see any adverse affects. One of them has the critters and rock from my old set up in it. All snails and crabs look OK. Pencil urchin looks good to, other than the algae growing on him. __________________ 29 gal tank LPS w/10 gal fuge 60 lbs LR Shallow sand bed started 3/1/2007 Current Tank Info: 29 gal reef

03/19/2007, 01:49 PM	#14
Pistonkev Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 1,107	Most Rubbermaids are NSF that I have seen.

03/19/2007, 01:52 PM	#15
IRISSERVICE Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beechhurst,New York Posts: 620	All rubbermaid brutes in Grey ,white , and yellow are nsf.. other colors are not. PS only brute line... __________________ Tank-125G Starphire Lighting- 4x 60" Reefbrites Skimmer- H&S A200-1250 MRC Sump Refugium---Circulation Tunze Wave Box---Main Pump - Seq3200 3phase W/ VFD Cooling Current Tank Info: 125 gallon Starphire euro braced

03/19/2007, 01:54 PM	#16
superedge88 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 827	I agree with the NSF, but I thought there was another abbreviation that was safe, one that was the abbreviation for polythylene? __________________ DRILL IT!!! Current Tank Info: In charge of over 50,000 gallons of fish only tanks

03/19/2007, 02:31 PM	#17
yakfishin Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 696	In my experience, most rubber containers are usually not noted as being food safe- but are clearly labeled if they are not. It cost more to produce a container that contains mold and bacteria inhibitors, so if the company is going to go through the extra expense of making a "non food safe" container, then it will be labeled as containing anti-mold and anti-bacterial compounds. At least this is what I have always heard, and it makes sense to me.

03/19/2007, 04:16 PM	#18
gixxer600 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chula Vista, CA Posts: 163	It should have a No. 1 or 2 in a triangle on the bottom of the can. 1 or 2 represents that it is safe for food storage.

03/19/2007, 07:16 PM	#19
Seehag Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 351	Stopped at osh today and they only have gray cans and not brute. They have a ldpe and triangle with a number 4 in the middle. I guess that makes them non food compatible. I will go to Home Depot tomorrow, theres are blue though. Art __________________ 100 gal Tru vue acrylic tank Home made sump refugium Aquac Ev-180 skimmer Velocity t4 closed loop pump 6 3' compact flourescent 10k lamps Tbs Package for 110 gal Current Tank Info: Just started my Reef

03/19/2007, 08:51 PM	#20
Seehag Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 351	Thought I might paste this link to Rubbermaid for info on the brute containers. I sent them an email to confirm that they are safe to use for what we want to use them for. I can find no info on this page that say's they are ok or not ok. I looked in the chemical reaction sheet and salt will not affect it. It appears that the color of the product has nothing to do with wether it is food grade or not. I will post whatever they send back to me soon. http://www.rcpworksmarter.com/rcp/pr...rcpNum=2643-60 Art __________________ 100 gal Tru vue acrylic tank Home made sump refugium Aquac Ev-180 skimmer Velocity t4 closed loop pump 6 3' compact flourescent 10k lamps Tbs Package for 110 gal Current Tank Info: Just started my Reef

03/19/2007, 09:18 PM	#21
MimicTang Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hartford CT Posts: 1,517	You want a 2 in the recycle symbol. Stands for HDPE ( high density polyethylene. Most collection garbage plastic cans are made of it as its super duper tough. Also super duper inert.

03/20/2007, 09:13 AM	#23
joekr Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 661	So the brute cans w/ a 4 are not safe for water storage? Just want to be sure before I start using one for my ro/di water.. __________________ Joe Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef

03/20/2007, 09:19 AM	#24
gixxer600 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chula Vista, CA Posts: 163	All the Rubbermaid Brute cans at my local Home Depot rated 2 and safe for food storage.

03/20/2007, 09:23 AM	#25
Frick-n-Frags Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: north central OH Posts: 10,740	when recycling, our deal is up to #2 only. It seems all the stuff like mustard jars etc are 4 through 7. so I think those are the more durable safer plastics aimed at longterm food storage BTW,I found a galvanized steel reenforcement ring in one of my trashcans. It wasn't for the tank, but my first thought was "that would suck to not see that and use it for the system". __________________ Only Dead fish swim with the current. Current Tank Info: 2 50 gal tanks, sump, still BB