Permian Cap base rock

underpar · 04/07/2007, 12:05 AM

Hi,

I would like some advice concerning Permian Cap rock. Specifically, would it be suitable as base rock followed by Fuji or Marshall Island?
The Permian Cap is quite reasonably priced on E-Bay at http://cgi.ebay.com/70-lbs-Permian-C...QcmdZViewItem.

Thanks, Fred

Avi · 04/07/2007, 05:48 AM

The link doesn't seem to be available anymore

underpar · 04/07/2007, 06:52 AM

Hi Avi,

Thanks for your effort.
I just tried http://cgi.ebay.com/70-lbs-Permian-C...QQcmdZViewItem and it seemed to work.

Fred

Avi · 04/07/2007, 12:15 PM

I can view that now...Seems like it would be fine from the photos and from the reviews that the seller has, especially the larger pieces. Just be aware that depending on the proportion of that rock vis-a-vis the actual live rock (whether it be Figi, Marshall Island or other) can take a long time to mature into sufficient live rock to maintain the kind of water quality that you'd want your live stocked reef to have. The cost of live rock, of course, is higher but I'd still make the Permian Cap rock a much smaller component of what to start with since a long wait to begin stocking a reef can be a very frustrating thing. To a large degree, the benefit of the use of base rock like this is dependant on the size of the tank...what size tank are you considereing, Fred?

underpar · 04/08/2007, 11:54 PM

Hi Avi,

Thanks, again, for your time, effort and thoughts. I have been away for the holiday, thus my delay in responding.

The tank will be 95 gallons with a DSB and a 75 gallon sump/refugium. It is my understanding that I would need about 140-150 pounds of rock. I am considering the Permian Cap strictly for economic reasons. The 70 pound package for about $2.00 per pound would be a significant savings. The balance I plan to get semi-locally from Pacific East Aquaculture http://www.drmaccorals.com/Default.aspx
I understand the need for time in the maturation process and am quite willing to be patient.

Thanks, Fred

Avi · 04/09/2007, 08:48 AM

I've just looked at the website you mention and I may even order some rock from there myself...I just bought a new 110-gallon tank for FOWLR and I want some big pieces, which they offer.

I think your plan is a good one...I'd just be sure that you know enough about the DSB before you go ahead with that. Make sure it really is deep enough or you'd be wasting your time with it.

If I may ask...what kind of skimmer did you chose? And, will it be a reef?

underpar · 04/11/2007, 04:18 AM

Hi Avi,

PM sent.

Fred

04/07/2007, 12:05 AM	#1
underpar Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chincoteague, VA Posts: 220	Permian Cap base rock Hi, I would like some advice concerning Permian Cap rock. Specifically, would it be suitable as base rock followed by Fuji or Marshall Island? The Permian Cap is quite reasonably priced on E-Bay at http://cgi.ebay.com/70-lbs-Permian-C...QcmdZViewItem. Thanks, Fred

04/07/2007, 05:48 AM	#2
Avi Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 7,327	The link doesn't seem to be available anymore __________________ I'd keep the whole ocean if my den were big enough Current Tank Info: 120 gallon reef with 210 lbs. of live rock, Aqua-C EV180 Skimmer, Aquactinic double 250W MH with blue plus t5 support; 58 gallon freshwater planted tank using CO2 and T5s; 30-gallon cube with a few fancy goldfish; and a 110 gallon FOWLR

04/07/2007, 12:15 PM	#4
Avi Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 7,327	I can view that now...Seems like it would be fine from the photos and from the reviews that the seller has, especially the larger pieces. Just be aware that depending on the proportion of that rock vis-a-vis the actual live rock (whether it be Figi, Marshall Island or other) can take a long time to mature into sufficient live rock to maintain the kind of water quality that you'd want your live stocked reef to have. The cost of live rock, of course, is higher but I'd still make the Permian Cap rock a much smaller component of what to start with since a long wait to begin stocking a reef can be a very frustrating thing. To a large degree, the benefit of the use of base rock like this is dependant on the size of the tank...what size tank are you considereing, Fred? __________________ I'd keep the whole ocean if my den were big enough Current Tank Info: 120 gallon reef with 210 lbs. of live rock, Aqua-C EV180 Skimmer, Aquactinic double 250W MH with blue plus t5 support; 58 gallon freshwater planted tank using CO2 and T5s; 30-gallon cube with a few fancy goldfish; and a 110 gallon FOWLR

04/09/2007, 08:48 AM	#6
Avi Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 7,327	I've just looked at the website you mention and I may even order some rock from there myself...I just bought a new 110-gallon tank for FOWLR and I want some big pieces, which they offer. I think your plan is a good one...I'd just be sure that you know enough about the DSB before you go ahead with that. Make sure it really is deep enough or you'd be wasting your time with it. If I may ask...what kind of skimmer did you chose? And, will it be a reef? __________________ I'd keep the whole ocean if my den were big enough Current Tank Info: 120 gallon reef with 210 lbs. of live rock, Aqua-C EV180 Skimmer, Aquactinic double 250W MH with blue plus t5 support; 58 gallon freshwater planted tank using CO2 and T5s; 30-gallon cube with a few fancy goldfish; and a 110 gallon FOWLR

04/07/2007, 06:52 AM	#3
underpar Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chincoteague, VA Posts: 220	Hi Avi, Thanks for your effort. I just tried http://cgi.ebay.com/70-lbs-Permian-C...QQcmdZViewItem and it seemed to work. Fred

04/08/2007, 11:54 PM	#5
underpar Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chincoteague, VA Posts: 220	Hi Avi, Thanks, again, for your time, effort and thoughts. I have been away for the holiday, thus my delay in responding. The tank will be 95 gallons with a DSB and a 75 gallon sump/refugium. It is my understanding that I would need about 140-150 pounds of rock. I am considering the Permian Cap strictly for economic reasons. The 70 pound package for about $2.00 per pound would be a significant savings. The balance I plan to get semi-locally from Pacific East Aquaculture http://www.drmaccorals.com/Default.aspx I understand the need for time in the maturation process and am quite willing to be patient. Thanks, Fred

04/11/2007, 04:18 AM	#7
underpar Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chincoteague, VA Posts: 220	Hi Avi, PM sent. Fred