another refugium question

sanababit · 05/04/2007, 10:37 PM

hello guys

im trying to make a refugium and i was wondering if any out there can help me, here it goes, i have a 10 gal tank wich is going to be refug, i installed the baffles already, i ordered the overflow, i ordered a mag 5 pump for return, got a all pvc parts to plumb it, anyways i need a couple of more things wich are

1 what kind of light you recomend??
2 LFS told me that i need mud?? reason beign i want a mandarin in the future, at LFS store mud is 90dlls OMG anywhere else i can get for cheap
3 do i need cheato?? i want to control algae in main tank
4 do i need live rock???

thanks

sana

demonsp · 05/04/2007, 10:43 PM

Cheato is one way theres also mangrove and a few more you can use. The reason you need fuge for the mandrin is for pod reproduction . They can clean a tank dry as this is there main food source , wait a few months after fuge to get mandrin. Yes adding some LR in there is good idea. Also i used mineral mud and then add 1 inch base rock above this. There is also another substate which i cant think of the name but regular mud may not be the best from my research. If you type refugium in a search engine then look at all the photos , this may help with design.

coast2coast7390 · 05/04/2007, 10:48 PM

1 you could go with PCs
2 a deep sand bed would work or look at marine depot dot com and look at their substrate they have cheaper mud for refugiums
3it would help alot...there is really no use for a light if you dont have macro algae
4 live rock rubble always helps but isnt needed

sanababit · 05/04/2007, 10:54 PM

can i use this CaribSea Araga-Mud Substrate 30 lb instead of mud on refug???, where can i get cheato, thanks
sana

demonsp · 05/04/2007, 10:57 PM

Se habla esponol. LOL Im not sure but just heard the mud is a bad idea. If you prepay shipping im more then happy to send some . But im sure you can find a LFS or buddy who may have some.

sanababit · 05/04/2007, 11:05 PM

hola demon, why is mud a bad idea, just want to know all opinions before i get everything and if you are willing to part with some ill happily pay for shipment, do you by any chance know where to get cheato???

demonsp · 05/04/2007, 11:10 PM

Yea it grows like a weed and i cant get rid of it fast enough. Im not saying that the mud is bad just that most perfer not to use it . I think it needs to be replaced often but whene i research my fuge subsrate i found the mineral mud to be the better choice.

05/04/2007, 10:37 PM	#1
sanababit Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Uranus Posts: 3,094	another refugium question hello guys im trying to make a refugium and i was wondering if any out there can help me, here it goes, i have a 10 gal tank wich is going to be refug, i installed the baffles already, i ordered the overflow, i ordered a mag 5 pump for return, got a all pvc parts to plumb it, anyways i need a couple of more things wich are 1 what kind of light you recomend?? 2 LFS told me that i need mud?? reason beign i want a mandarin in the future, at LFS store mud is 90dlls OMG anywhere else i can get for cheap 3 do i need cheato?? i want to control algae in main tank 4 do i need live rock??? thanks sana __________________ Senior Member of the "Hardly any Water Changes, Temp Swinging, T5ing, No Qtining, Frag Exchanging for Fish Food Current Tank Info: 90RR inwall, Octopuss Skimmer, 2 MP40 wQD, 1 MP10 WQD, 2 Radions G4 Pro, Apex Doser, Apex Controller, 400w heater, 30 Gal Sump, Biopellets, Carbon, Gfo, Macroalgae

05/04/2007, 10:54 PM	#4
sanababit Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Uranus Posts: 3,094	can i use this CaribSea Araga-Mud Substrate 30 lb instead of mud on refug???, where can i get cheato, thanks sana __________________ Senior Member of the "Hardly any Water Changes, Temp Swinging, T5ing, No Qtining, Frag Exchanging for Fish Food Current Tank Info: 90RR inwall, Octopuss Skimmer, 2 MP40 wQD, 1 MP10 WQD, 2 Radions G4 Pro, Apex Doser, Apex Controller, 400w heater, 30 Gal Sump, Biopellets, Carbon, Gfo, Macroalgae

05/04/2007, 11:05 PM	#6
sanababit Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Uranus Posts: 3,094	hola demon, why is mud a bad idea, just want to know all opinions before i get everything and if you are willing to part with some ill happily pay for shipment, do you by any chance know where to get cheato??? __________________ Senior Member of the "Hardly any Water Changes, Temp Swinging, T5ing, No Qtining, Frag Exchanging for Fish Food Current Tank Info: 90RR inwall, Octopuss Skimmer, 2 MP40 wQD, 1 MP10 WQD, 2 Radions G4 Pro, Apex Doser, Apex Controller, 400w heater, 30 Gal Sump, Biopellets, Carbon, Gfo, Macroalgae

05/04/2007, 10:43 PM	#2
demonsp Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: el paso tx Posts: 7,634	Cheato is one way theres also mangrove and a few more you can use. The reason you need fuge for the mandrin is for pod reproduction . They can clean a tank dry as this is there main food source , wait a few months after fuge to get mandrin. Yes adding some LR in there is good idea. Also i used mineral mud and then add 1 inch base rock above this. There is also another substate which i cant think of the name but regular mud may not be the best from my research. If you type refugium in a search engine then look at all the photos , this may help with design.

05/04/2007, 10:48 PM	#3
coast2coast7390 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Garden Grove Posts: 3,627	1 you could go with PCs 2 a deep sand bed would work or look at marine depot dot com and look at their substrate they have cheaper mud for refugiums 3it would help alot...there is really no use for a light if you dont have macro algae 4 live rock rubble always helps but isnt needed

05/04/2007, 10:57 PM	#5
demonsp Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: el paso tx Posts: 7,634	Se habla esponol. LOL Im not sure but just heard the mud is a bad idea. If you prepay shipping im more then happy to send some . But im sure you can find a LFS or buddy who may have some.

05/04/2007, 11:10 PM	#7
demonsp Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: el paso tx Posts: 7,634	Yea it grows like a weed and i cant get rid of it fast enough. Im not saying that the mud is bad just that most perfer not to use it . I think it needs to be replaced often but whene i research my fuge subsrate i found the mineral mud to be the better choice.