ID Please Please Please !!!

Paradi · 05/17/2007, 07:24 AM

hi Reefers, please help me ID those critters,

what sort of snail, good or bad ? she was crawling ''DOWN'' the glass so her head is on sand her tail on glass,...spooky

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...o/DSC01317.jpg

second one, looks like a tiny anemone, could tis be apastia ( spelling ), she's in the center of the pic, sorry for cheap camera , thank youuuuuuuu guys

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...o/DSC01321.jpg

bryon0508 · 05/17/2007, 07:32 AM

the snail is a niserius (can't spell) snail very good

and to the 2nd pic not shure i got some that look similar but white

steri · 05/17/2007, 07:43 AM

1st pic is a narissius (bad spelling) snail. Very awesome to have in the tank!

2nd pic looks very very much like Aptaisa. Not good.

But hey, 1 out of 2 being good for the tank aint bad

Paradi · 05/17/2007, 07:45 AM

YAAAAAAAAAAY !!! hehe ok ill remove the poor Aptaisa and leave the spooky snails thank you guysssss

JokerGirl · 05/17/2007, 07:47 AM

I would keep a close eye on that "nassarius" snail that you possible have there. Nassarius can also look like whelks. All whelks are predatory to something and have been known to destroy corals, clams, etc... so keep an eye on it.

Paradi · 05/17/2007, 07:54 AM

umm, well, I just felt like a time for a treat for those guys coz they are safe as you said, but as soon as I gave them a small cocktail shrimp they ( 3 ) started to eat like wolves and seems like a mucus on the shrimp now secreted from them, so do you still think they are Nassarius ?

Paradi · 05/17/2007, 07:59 AM

a better pic

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...riusSnails.jpg

shouldabenacowboy · 05/17/2007, 08:00 AM

For those too lazy to click....

SBC

Reefmack · 05/17/2007, 08:01 AM

I'd keep an eye on the snail too. The knobbiness of the shell looks a little more pronounced than on my nassarius, and it's possible it could be a whelk that came with the rock.

Frick-n-Frags · 05/17/2007, 08:16 AM

the nassarius should go into the sand. the whelks just usually cruise around. While you are keeping an eye on it, watch and see if it is hanging around other snails or any bivalves.

yeah, you probably should trash that anemone while there is only 1

edit: interesting foot in that last small pic. of the 3 or 4 whelks I've had hitch in, none had that weird little shape on the front of the foot. Is that some positive identifier?

Paintbug · 05/17/2007, 08:19 AM

first pic is of some kind of Nassarius sp.. theres many species of Nassarius, heres some of them. Nassarius Shells
2nd is aiptasia
3rd is a couple of Ilyanassa obsoleta, which are temperate snails, and dont usually do very good in our systems. they also ofter carry flukes that will bury under your skin and irritate the crap out of you.

ct103 · 05/17/2007, 08:22 AM

careful removing the aptasia they can spread like fire. I had to get a pepermint shrimp, he eliminated them pretty quick. If you choose to do this make sure you get a true pepermint and not a camelback shrimp (I believe this is the look alike) they are similar in appearance. The pepermint is sort of translucent the camelback is not. Please foregive any spelling errors

Paradi · 05/17/2007, 08:38 AM

thank you so much guys I owe you, can you tell me please how to remove the anemone manually ? i cant get a peppermint now, i will later, so how can I remover her now plz ?

Paradi · 05/17/2007, 08:47 AM

ok here's another pic of the devil

threat illuminated !

Paintbug · 05/17/2007, 08:48 AM

it would be better to let it grow than to remove it manually. any piece that breaks off or is left behind will grow into a new one. heres a link with some other methods of removal.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=803632

alexb518 · 05/17/2007, 08:58 AM

at this point, the cheapest way for you to get rid of it is probably to just take that piece of rock out. it looks like a really small piece, so just throw it in the sun for a couple of days ( or what have you) and yes, just kill everything on the rock and then throw it back in after a few days. i wouldn't probably ever say that, but that piece of LR you have is probably only worth a dollar or two, and that's far cheaper and way less head ache than trying to get rid of aiptasia in nay other way.

Travis L. Stevens · 05/17/2007, 09:05 AM

The first snail looks more like a Whelk or a conch to me.

1F2FRFBF · 05/17/2007, 09:10 AM

Here's an article on whelks:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-11/rs/index.php

I'd say keep an eye on your guys there.

Paradi · 05/17/2007, 09:15 AM

thats what I did, I got the rocklet out , poor cute feather worms will die too, i loved their blue feathers, but i got many on other rocks, I'll add my real rocks today, I made some pillars they look nice, thank you guys so much I really appreciate your help. Thank You !!!

pagojoe · 05/17/2007, 03:26 PM

In the pic with the 4 snails, three of them are muricids (2 are Thais or Stramonita species, often called Rock Snails, one is either a Drupella or closely related genus), and the one with the aperture up is a subadult cerithiid. The cerith won't hurt anything, the others might eat other molluscs in your tank.

Cheers,

Don

Paradi · 05/19/2007, 06:26 PM

pagojoe thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu that was very informative thank you so much !!!

05/17/2007, 07:24 AM	#1
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	ID Please Please Please !!! hi Reefers, please help me ID those critters, what sort of snail, good or bad ? she was crawling ''DOWN'' the glass so her head is on sand her tail on glass,...spooky http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...o/DSC01317.jpg second one, looks like a tiny anemone, could tis be apastia ( spelling ), she's in the center of the pic, sorry for cheap camera , thank youuuuuuuu guys http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...o/DSC01321.jpg

05/17/2007, 07:32 AM	#2
bryon0508 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: moore, ok Posts: 207	the snail is a niserius (can't spell) snail very good and to the 2nd pic not shure i got some that look similar but white __________________ its a girl, Hannah Abigail Forga was 7lbs 10 oz at 19 inch 5-15-08 Current Tank Info: 55gal with 15 gal sump, 10 gal planted fresh water, and a 8 gal i have no clue to do with

05/17/2007, 07:43 AM	#3
steri Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aurora, IL. Posts: 2,361	1st pic is a narissius (bad spelling) snail. Very awesome to have in the tank! 2nd pic looks very very much like Aptaisa. Not good. But hey, 1 out of 2 being good for the tank aint bad __________________ 220g: French Angel, Emperor Angel, Passer Anger, Blue Tang, Yellow Tang, Snowflake Moray Eel, Lunar Wrasse Current Tank Info: 220 with T5HO lighting. ETSS skimmer.

05/17/2007, 07:47 AM	#5
JokerGirl Whistler's Mother Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: That place Posts: 1,345	I would keep a close eye on that "nassarius" snail that you possible have there. Nassarius can also look like whelks. All whelks are predatory to something and have been known to destroy corals, clams, etc... so keep an eye on it. __________________ 01000001 01101110 01111001 01101111 01101110 01100101 00111111 Current Tank Info: 120g Reef Tank, 60g Cube Mantis/Reef Tank, Want more info, ask me.

05/17/2007, 08:00 AM	#8
shouldabenacowboy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Where am I today? Posts: 529	For those too lazy to click.... SBC __________________ They're selling make believe, and I don't buy that anymore They're trying to put an end to guys like me - Gary Allan Cuz there aint nothing funny when a soldier cries - John Michael Montgomery

05/17/2007, 07:45 AM	#4
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	YAAAAAAAAAAY !!! hehe ok ill remove the poor Aptaisa and leave the spooky snails thank you guysssss

05/17/2007, 07:54 AM	#6
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	umm, well, I just felt like a time for a treat for those guys coz they are safe as you said, but as soon as I gave them a small cocktail shrimp they ( 3 ) started to eat like wolves and seems like a mucus on the shrimp now secreted from them, so do you still think they are Nassarius ?

05/17/2007, 07:59 AM	#7
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	a better pic http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...riusSnails.jpg

05/17/2007, 08:01 AM	#9
Reefmack Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 3,412	I'd keep an eye on the snail too. The knobbiness of the shell looks a little more pronounced than on my nassarius, and it's possible it could be a whelk that came with the rock.

05/17/2007, 08:16 AM	#10
Frick-n-Frags Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: north central OH Posts: 10,740	the nassarius should go into the sand. the whelks just usually cruise around. While you are keeping an eye on it, watch and see if it is hanging around other snails or any bivalves. yeah, you probably should trash that anemone while there is only 1 edit: interesting foot in that last small pic. of the 3 or 4 whelks I've had hitch in, none had that weird little shape on the front of the foot. Is that some positive identifier? __________________ Only Dead fish swim with the current. Current Tank Info: 2 50 gal tanks, sump, still BB

05/17/2007, 08:19 AM	#11
Paintbug Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Stoneville, NC Posts: 6,169	first pic is of some kind of Nassarius sp.. theres many species of Nassarius, heres some of them. Nassarius Shells 2nd is aiptasia 3rd is a couple of Ilyanassa obsoleta, which are temperate snails, and dont usually do very good in our systems. they also ofter carry flukes that will bury under your skin and irritate the crap out of you. __________________ Never ask a girl over to see your crabs!! <-Tony-> Current Tank Info: NONE currently

05/17/2007, 08:22 AM	#12
ct103 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 420	careful removing the aptasia they can spread like fire. I had to get a pepermint shrimp, he eliminated them pretty quick. If you choose to do this make sure you get a true pepermint and not a camelback shrimp (I believe this is the look alike) they are similar in appearance. The pepermint is sort of translucent the camelback is not. Please foregive any spelling errors __________________ Some people are like slinkies, not really good for anything, but they can still make you smile when you push them down the stairs. Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef/ 1-55 gallon cichlid tank

05/17/2007, 08:38 AM	#13
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	thank you so much guys I owe you, can you tell me please how to remove the anemone manually ? i cant get a peppermint now, i will later, so how can I remover her now plz ?

05/17/2007, 08:47 AM	#14
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	ok here's another pic of the devil threat illuminated !

05/17/2007, 08:48 AM	#15
Paintbug Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Stoneville, NC Posts: 6,169	it would be better to let it grow than to remove it manually. any piece that breaks off or is left behind will grow into a new one. heres a link with some other methods of removal. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=803632 __________________ Never ask a girl over to see your crabs!! <-Tony-> Current Tank Info: NONE currently

05/17/2007, 08:58 AM	#16
alexb518 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Mateo Posts: 514	at this point, the cheapest way for you to get rid of it is probably to just take that piece of rock out. it looks like a really small piece, so just throw it in the sun for a couple of days ( or what have you) and yes, just kill everything on the rock and then throw it back in after a few days. i wouldn't probably ever say that, but that piece of LR you have is probably only worth a dollar or two, and that's far cheaper and way less head ache than trying to get rid of aiptasia in nay other way.

05/17/2007, 09:05 AM	#17
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	The first snail looks more like a Whelk or a conch to me. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

05/17/2007, 09:10 AM	#18
1F2FRFBF Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 456	Here's an article on whelks: http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-11/rs/index.php I'd say keep an eye on your guys there.

05/17/2007, 09:15 AM	#19
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	thats what I did, I got the rocklet out , poor cute feather worms will die too, i loved their blue feathers, but i got many on other rocks, I'll add my real rocks today, I made some pillars they look nice, thank you guys so much I really appreciate your help. Thank You !!!

05/17/2007, 03:26 PM	#20
pagojoe Team RC Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 2,761	In the pic with the 4 snails, three of them are muricids (2 are Thais or Stramonita species, often called Rock Snails, one is either a Drupella or closely related genus), and the one with the aperture up is a subadult cerithiid. The cerith won't hurt anything, the others might eat other molluscs in your tank. Cheers, Don

05/19/2007, 06:26 PM	#21
Paradi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 145	pagojoe thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu that was very informative thank you so much !!!