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05/22/2007, 11:59 PM
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dead shrimp
hello guys, i got a question, what would kill or may i say what conditions would kill a shrimp, would it be salinity?, temp? etc?, i have lost 2 shrimp in about 4 days, and i had them for about 2 weeks, just need to know so i can correct, ohh and i know my tank is new and everything, but lets say my tank is 1 year old and i had the same problem, any ideas??
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05/23/2007, 12:02 AM
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LOL cant just say its 1 year and not in SW its important. What are water readings. How much LR ? And the first thing you added was the shrimp ?
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05/23/2007, 12:05 AM
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Can you post all your water params?
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05/23/2007, 12:09 AM
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ok, param, ph 8.4, ammo 0, trite 0, trate 0, temp 77, ca 440, alk 11, po4 0, everey 3 days i dose purple up, i have a 10 gal refugium with cheato, lr, ls, (theres a spot growing from bottom to the top on sand bed of refugium wich is about 4 inches deep, it looks black, could it be hydrogen sulfide?), its beign drip dosed with calcium, a drop every 3 seconds, the tank is 46 galon with 40 pounds of live rock and 50 of ls, i have a cyano outbreak too btw, i do a 10% water change every week, so any ideas???
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05/23/2007, 12:11 AM
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ohh live stock, 1 yellow tang, 2 clowns, 1 firefish and about 8 softies (leather coral, starpolips, mushrooms, xenia, zoanthids, and 2 other wich i cant remember names.
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05/23/2007, 12:14 AM
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What's your salinity? How stable is it along with your temp? The black area of the sandbed could very well be hydrogen sulfide. Don't disturb this area.
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05/23/2007, 12:15 AM
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Well... If these are new shrimps they could have just molted and tend to hide a few days while new shell hardens. Also sounds like flow could be a little weak. What do you use for flow ?
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05/23/2007, 12:19 AM
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salinity is around 1.025, i have a hydrometer so this is what i have now, i will get a refractometer when i get some money, anyways i did see the shrimp molt 1 day before and next day i found him lying on his back not moving, should i leave them alone???, ohh and black spot is crawling upwards its almost to the top, should i just shut of refugium and change sand?? or just leave it alone??? thanks
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05/23/2007, 12:21 AM
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for flow i have 2 koralias 3 moving water around, i have to say they work great
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05/23/2007, 12:37 AM
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This tank only 1 month old. Was it an established tank ?
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05/23/2007, 12:39 AM
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Sounds like the black spot might just be cyano. You'll see this commonly in deep(er) sand beds. Might not be anything to worry about.
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05/23/2007, 12:50 AM
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no the tank is new and its almost 2 months old, i know my tank is not mature enough, but any ideas would help, i still have a cleanr shrimp and maybe 1 peppermint left, wich i havent seen in 2 or 3 days
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05/23/2007, 01:03 AM
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They usually molt a few weeks after indroduced i would just wait a few day and im sure they will emurge.
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05/23/2007, 09:25 AM
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no the thing is that i find them dead or apear to look dead, they dont move or twitch or nothing, and i believe something in tank is killing them, could be param, could be coral, could be fish, dont know, please help
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05/23/2007, 07:00 PM
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The same thing happened to me and my 3 different species of shrimp. Ihad them for over 6 months with the same tank mates. After tons of research, I came to the conclusion that I had anammonia spike. NH3/NH4 can spike and go backown befor you can get a reading. One of the very few species that would react to this bloom, are SHRIMP. NH3/NH4 would kill them instantly.
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05/23/2007, 07:05 PM
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finally someone with same problem, i will keep a better check on things, probalby and ammonia spike huh, i lost a blenny out of hunger (he ate all hair algea and would not aet anything else) maybe thats it, i will keep you posted.
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