Cracked Sump Help me

shyland83 · 06/17/2007, 06:10 AM

I noticed that i always have a little water under my sump. a few days ago i tightened the bulkhead to the pump and just this morning i noticed the tank is cracked by the bulkhead. I don't know if it's been cracked since the beggining or if i just did it the other day but i need to replace the sump. If anyone has a 40g breeder or knows were i can get one cheap i would really appreciate it. I work till 5 today and every day this week, if no one has a used one i'm going to have to find one at petco or something. and i'm just really hoping the leak doesn't get any worse.

bobbbm · 06/17/2007, 06:36 AM

Wish I could help.... have someone check on it while your at work

cb747 · 06/17/2007, 06:43 AM

I cracked the glass around a bulkhead on a tank is use as a refugium. All i did was silicone the crack on both sides and its held just fine. Its been several years now.

cb747 · 06/17/2007, 06:44 AM

Oh i also have a 40 breeder collecting spider webs LOL

DgenR8 · 06/17/2007, 07:02 AM

You could probably save it with silicone, but I wouldn't take the chance. That's a lot of water that could be doing a lot of damage to your house while you're working.
I have a drill press and a diamond hole saw. If you like, pick up the tank from Chris, and I'll put a hole in it for a 1" bulkhead for you. If you want a different size bulkhead, I don't have the bit.

cb747 · 06/17/2007, 10:46 AM

Larry his sump is leaking slightly now so i think with silicone it would be fine. If it did leak again he would be back to where it is now. Id definitely try the silicone first but you are welcome to the tank as well.

shyland83 · 06/17/2007, 06:07 PM

It's actually a 2" bulkhead for the snapper pump, but i can drill it. I don't know if it's worth draining it, drying it out, and siliconing it when i could just swap it out in less time. I might have to take you up on that spare tank, i'll let you know.

shyland83 · 06/20/2007, 04:57 PM

So if i drain the sump and silicone it, how long do i have to wait before filling it again?

cb747 · 06/20/2007, 05:16 PM

Id give it a few hours at the least. Plop any spare pump you have lying around in your main tank for circulation and youll be fine while your sump is "offline"

DgenR8 · 06/21/2007, 04:25 PM

Depending on how much silicone you use, the drying time could be 24 hrs +

shyland83 · 06/21/2007, 05:19 PM

i think i want to just replace the sump, i want to silicone baffles in anyway. CB Is there any way I could pick up that 40 breeder after work one day, i work on ocean pkwy right near jones beach, get off at 5. If so just let me know how much you want for it. Otherwise i'm just going to try to find one new somewhere. I was also considering buying some 1/4" acrylic and making one, but i have a feeling thats going to get expensive. at least i wouldn't have to worry about cracking it again.

cb747 · 06/21/2007, 05:44 PM

Scott its all yours. Its in the driveway now so whenever you want to get it is good with me.

cb747 · 06/21/2007, 05:49 PM

I sent you my contact info via PM

shyland83 · 07/05/2007, 04:11 PM

Thanks to chris i got a new tank and replaced the sump. But... being a giant knucklehead, I cracked the 20g fuge in the process. I'm a waste of life. I siliconed it up for now but it's cracked pretty badly and still has a slow leak. The sand bed is only about 2 months old, will it be a problem to just switch it all into a new tank?

06/17/2007, 06:10 AM	#1
shyland83 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakdale, Long Island Posts: 1,550	Cracked Sump Help me I noticed that i always have a little water under my sump. a few days ago i tightened the bulkhead to the pump and just this morning i noticed the tank is cracked by the bulkhead. I don't know if it's been cracked since the beggining or if i just did it the other day but i need to replace the sump. If anyone has a 40g breeder or knows were i can get one cheap i would really appreciate it. I work till 5 today and every day this week, if no one has a used one i'm going to have to find one at petco or something. and i'm just really hoping the leak doesn't get any worse. __________________ -Scott Whenever I’m about to do something, I think “would an idiot do that?” and if they would, I do not do that thing Current Tank Info: 120 gallon mixed reef

06/17/2007, 07:02 AM	#5
DgenR8 I'm an American and I remember Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 43,992	You could probably save it with silicone, but I wouldn't take the chance. That's a lot of water that could be doing a lot of damage to your house while you're working. I have a drill press and a diamond hole saw. If you like, pick up the tank from Chris, and I'll put a hole in it for a 1" bulkhead for you. If you want a different size bulkhead, I don't have the bit. __________________ “I wish there was a way to know that you were IN the good old days, before leaving them.” ~Andy Bernard Regional Manager, Scranton branch Dunder Mifflin Current Tank Info: Unknown slow drip, over 20 years damaged my house and heating system. No more tank.

06/17/2007, 06:07 PM	#7
shyland83 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakdale, Long Island Posts: 1,550	It's actually a 2" bulkhead for the snapper pump, but i can drill it. I don't know if it's worth draining it, drying it out, and siliconing it when i could just swap it out in less time. I might have to take you up on that spare tank, i'll let you know. __________________ -Scott Whenever I’m about to do something, I think “would an idiot do that?” and if they would, I do not do that thing Current Tank Info: 120 gallon mixed reef

06/20/2007, 04:57 PM	#8
shyland83 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakdale, Long Island Posts: 1,550	So if i drain the sump and silicone it, how long do i have to wait before filling it again? __________________ -Scott Whenever I’m about to do something, I think “would an idiot do that?” and if they would, I do not do that thing Current Tank Info: 120 gallon mixed reef

06/21/2007, 04:25 PM	#10
DgenR8 I'm an American and I remember Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 43,992	Depending on how much silicone you use, the drying time could be 24 hrs + __________________ “I wish there was a way to know that you were IN the good old days, before leaving them.” ~Andy Bernard Regional Manager, Scranton branch Dunder Mifflin Current Tank Info: Unknown slow drip, over 20 years damaged my house and heating system. No more tank.

06/17/2007, 06:36 AM	#2
bobbbm Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ronkonkoma NY Posts: 535	Wish I could help.... have someone check on it while your at work

06/17/2007, 06:43 AM	#3
cb747 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Franklin Square, NY Posts: 5,593	I cracked the glass around a bulkhead on a tank is use as a refugium. All i did was silicone the crack on both sides and its held just fine. Its been several years now.

06/17/2007, 06:44 AM	#4
cb747 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Franklin Square, NY Posts: 5,593	Oh i also have a 40 breeder collecting spider webs LOL

06/17/2007, 10:46 AM	#6
cb747 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Franklin Square, NY Posts: 5,593	Larry his sump is leaking slightly now so i think with silicone it would be fine. If it did leak again he would be back to where it is now. Id definitely try the silicone first but you are welcome to the tank as well.

06/20/2007, 05:16 PM	#9
cb747 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Franklin Square, NY Posts: 5,593	Id give it a few hours at the least. Plop any spare pump you have lying around in your main tank for circulation and youll be fine while your sump is "offline"

06/21/2007, 05:19 PM	#11
shyland83 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakdale, Long Island Posts: 1,550	i think i want to just replace the sump, i want to silicone baffles in anyway. CB Is there any way I could pick up that 40 breeder after work one day, i work on ocean pkwy right near jones beach, get off at 5. If so just let me know how much you want for it. Otherwise i'm just going to try to find one new somewhere. I was also considering buying some 1/4" acrylic and making one, but i have a feeling thats going to get expensive. at least i wouldn't have to worry about cracking it again. __________________ -Scott Whenever I’m about to do something, I think “would an idiot do that?” and if they would, I do not do that thing Current Tank Info: 120 gallon mixed reef

06/21/2007, 05:44 PM	#12
cb747 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Franklin Square, NY Posts: 5,593	Scott its all yours. Its in the driveway now so whenever you want to get it is good with me.

06/21/2007, 05:49 PM	#13
cb747 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Franklin Square, NY Posts: 5,593	I sent you my contact info via PM

07/05/2007, 04:11 PM	#14
shyland83 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oakdale, Long Island Posts: 1,550	Thanks to chris i got a new tank and replaced the sump. But... being a giant knucklehead, I cracked the 20g fuge in the process. I'm a waste of life. I siliconed it up for now but it's cracked pretty badly and still has a slow leak. The sand bed is only about 2 months old, will it be a problem to just switch it all into a new tank? __________________ -Scott Whenever I’m about to do something, I think “would an idiot do that?” and if they would, I do not do that thing Current Tank Info: 120 gallon mixed reef