Tang Police

horstman2 · 08/18/2007, 09:21 PM

I am dropping in a 220 and was thinking of trying to put a purple and yellow tang in the tank. i know the same shape your not suppose to put together. Anyone have ideas, luck etc. They will both be new to the tank so territory has yet to be claimed...

Thanks

Entropy · 08/18/2007, 09:37 PM

I have seen a lot more that two tangs in a 180g, so you shouldn't have any problems once they get acclimated. Since they are both going in at the same time they should do fine IMO.

[17]shawn[17] · 08/18/2007, 09:41 PM

im pretty sure the shape rule is only for if you are adding tangs at diffrent times i would lesten to epesode 21 of reefcast they tank about the shape rule and purple tangs and a bunch of other fun stuff like that

pco1988 · 08/18/2007, 11:13 PM

I have a Sailfin, yellow, and purple tang in my 210 and added them at different times and everyone is fine. They have been together for 10 months now and doing fine.

schoch79 · 08/19/2007, 12:52 AM

I think that is just a general rule. Maybe it just applies to smaller tanks? I see sooooo many tanks out there with all kinds of tangs. Most of those have yellows and purples. I personally would go for it with that size tank and just watch them to be sure everything is ok.

Thinslis · 08/19/2007, 06:50 AM

If you have to add multiple tangs at the same time, how do you QT them? Wouldn't you have issues in the QT tank?

shuturhole316tx · 08/19/2007, 07:25 AM

can use a devider for the first couple of days and then remove it and see what happens.

murfman · 08/19/2007, 07:35 AM

You can also re scape some of your rockwork to give the illusion of a new home.

For shuturhole316tx; Hooooahhhh!

virginiadiver69 · 08/19/2007, 08:58 AM

Love the avatar.

szwab · 08/19/2007, 09:29 AM

I would be prepared to intervene if needed. Which would include having a proper holding tank should you need to remove one.

horstman2 · 08/19/2007, 04:35 PM

My yellow has been with me for abit and is in my 120. The purple is new and is in the Q Tank. The yellow is about twice the size of the purple. I may just give the yellow to my buddy and then not have to worry......Thanks for all the replies...

Peter Eichler · 08/19/2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by horstman2
My yellow has been with me for abit and is in my 120. The purple is new and is in the Q Tank. The yellow is about twice the size of the purple. I may just give the yellow to my buddy and then not have to worry......Thanks for all the replies...

Personally I'd give it a try. The fish being quite different in size is a good thing IMO and I've kept Zebrasoma tangs together numerous times without issue.

NUBIANTANGLOVER · 08/19/2007, 06:22 PM

To add to this,

Since your tank is pretty large, having these two tangs should be fine as others have stated. The key, however, is to add them at the same time. Yellow tangs, typically are very easy to take care of and adapt pretty well, however, they are slightly territorial. This is one of the reasons why it is advised to place only one in a tank of the same shape, or add them together in a group of at least 5 or more. In regards to QT them, you can probably use a divider in your QT tank, but make sure you introduce them in your main tank when you are ready, together. Some hobbyist use their refugium as a QT tank, especially if it is on the back of the tank. This way the QT fish can see the actual fish environment, but will not fill the full effects of being stressed.
Now, in terms of the Purple tang, the Purple tang "is the most belligerent member of this genus, it will fight fiercely with members of its own species and other tangs. Should be the least fish introduced to the community tank....best kept as a sole surgeonfish, unless in an extra-large tank" -Marine Fishes, A PocketExpert Guide by Scott W. Michael."

woodycb · 08/19/2007, 06:26 PM

My lfs has 2 naso's, powder blue, 2 yellows, and Kole tang in a 150 show tank and they are surprisingly doing fine. I wouldnt recommend it, but hey what the heck.

setec69 · 08/20/2007, 06:53 AM

I have a scopas, a yellow, a hippo and a blond naso all in my 180 with no fighting. I think for larger tanks, most of the rules seem to bend or not apply. I would go for it if I were you.

ricks · 08/20/2007, 09:11 AM

I have (2) blue hippo's, purple, kole, powder blue in my 500 with no problems..

szwab · 08/20/2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodycb
My lfs has 2 naso's, powder blue, 2 yellows, and Kole tang in a 150 show tank and they are surprisingly doing fine. I wouldnt recommend it, but hey what the heck.

curious:

which LFS?

horstman2 · 08/21/2007, 11:57 PM

Thank you to all for the responses. A question i forgot to ask is does the size matter. The yellow tang is fairly big while the purple is a baby. Between the tank size and fish size it looks like it might work.

rppvt · 08/22/2007, 12:01 AM

Vermont, bygod! Good to see someone else from the green mountain state on here. Even tho I'm stranded on the west coast! Good luck with your tangs.

ace35 · 08/22/2007, 07:28 AM

Hey Vermonters! Just wanted to feel like I belonged and say "hi." Curious what LFS you go to?

08/18/2007, 09:21 PM	#1
horstman2 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 167	Tang Police I am dropping in a 220 and was thinking of trying to put a purple and yellow tang in the tank. i know the same shape your not suppose to put together. Anyone have ideas, luck etc. They will both be new to the tank so territory has yet to be claimed... Thanks

08/18/2007, 09:37 PM	#2
Entropy Texas Reefer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 13,656	I have seen a lot more that two tangs in a 180g, so you shouldn't have any problems once they get acclimated. Since they are both going in at the same time they should do fine IMO. __________________ Rich Overton 150G cube FOWLR, 30g sump, ReefKeeperII, 3x Koralia 1400's, QuiteOne 3000, Reef Octopus DNWB150, 4x 30w Par38 LED. Current Tank Info: 36x36x27 150g

08/18/2007, 09:41 PM	#3
[17]shawn[17] Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brockville Ontario Canada Posts: 844	im pretty sure the shape rule is only for if you are adding tangs at diffrent times i would lesten to epesode 21 of reefcast they tank about the shape rule and purple tangs and a bunch of other fun stuff like that __________________ shawn “We will only conserve what we love. We will only love what we understand. We will only understand what we are taught.”

08/18/2007, 11:13 PM	#4
pco1988 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 302	I have a Sailfin, yellow, and purple tang in my 210 and added them at different times and everyone is fine. They have been together for 10 months now and doing fine. __________________ Philip There are two types of people in this hobby: "The ones who have had a tank crash, and the ones that are going to have a tank crash" Current Tank Info: 11gal Nano Reef

08/19/2007, 12:52 AM	#5
schoch79 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: hegins,pa Posts: 1,071	I think that is just a general rule. Maybe it just applies to smaller tanks? I see sooooo many tanks out there with all kinds of tangs. Most of those have yellows and purples. I personally would go for it with that size tank and just watch them to be sure everything is ok. __________________ We'd better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night... mostly.

08/19/2007, 06:50 AM	#6
Thinslis Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Madison, Ohio Posts: 1,658	If you have to add multiple tangs at the same time, how do you QT them? Wouldn't you have issues in the QT tank? __________________ -B Current Tank Info: 40g breeder, ER-RS80, MP40w, 250w + 2xT5

08/19/2007, 07:25 AM	#7
shuturhole316tx Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Killeen, TX/Camp Taji, Iraq Posts: 315	can use a devider for the first couple of days and then remove it and see what happens. __________________ Thanks, John 180 Gal Reef & Fish Starfire Tank Current Tank Info: 180 Gal, Starfire Tank, Corals, Fish, inverts, lots of money!

08/19/2007, 07:35 AM	#8
murfman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,670	You can also re scape some of your rockwork to give the illusion of a new home. For shuturhole316tx; Hooooahhhh!

08/19/2007, 08:58 AM	#9
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08/19/2007, 09:29 AM	#10
szwab RC Mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 15,225	I would be prepared to intervene if needed. Which would include having a proper holding tank should you need to remove one. __________________ Mark "I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell" ~ Christopher Walken Current Tank Info: AGE 240 Flatback Hex

08/19/2007, 04:35 PM	#11
horstman2 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 167	My yellow has been with me for abit and is in my 120. The purple is new and is in the Q Tank. The yellow is about twice the size of the purple. I may just give the yellow to my buddy and then not have to worry......Thanks for all the replies...

08/19/2007, 06:22 PM	#13
NUBIANTANGLOVER Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NORTH CAROLINA Posts: 517	To add to this, Since your tank is pretty large, having these two tangs should be fine as others have stated. The key, however, is to add them at the same time. Yellow tangs, typically are very easy to take care of and adapt pretty well, however, they are slightly territorial. This is one of the reasons why it is advised to place only one in a tank of the same shape, or add them together in a group of at least 5 or more. In regards to QT them, you can probably use a divider in your QT tank, but make sure you introduce them in your main tank when you are ready, together. Some hobbyist use their refugium as a QT tank, especially if it is on the back of the tank. This way the QT fish can see the actual fish environment, but will not fill the full effects of being stressed. Now, in terms of the Purple tang, the Purple tang "is the most belligerent member of this genus, it will fight fiercely with members of its own species and other tangs. Should be the least fish introduced to the community tank....best kept as a sole surgeonfish, unless in an extra-large tank" -Marine Fishes, A PocketExpert Guide by Scott W. Michael."

08/19/2007, 06:26 PM	#14
woodycb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: N.W. Ohio Posts: 785	My lfs has 2 naso's, powder blue, 2 yellows, and Kole tang in a 150 show tank and they are surprisingly doing fine. I wouldnt recommend it, but hey what the heck. __________________ We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART Current Tank Info: 75 gallon

08/20/2007, 06:53 AM	#15
setec69 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Fl Posts: 148	I have a scopas, a yellow, a hippo and a blond naso all in my 180 with no fighting. I think for larger tanks, most of the rules seem to bend or not apply. I would go for it if I were you.

08/20/2007, 09:11 AM	#16
ricks Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: portland,or Posts: 906	I have (2) blue hippo's, purple, kole, powder blue in my 500 with no problems..

08/21/2007, 11:57 PM	#18
horstman2 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 167	Thank you to all for the responses. A question i forgot to ask is does the size matter. The yellow tang is fairly big while the purple is a baby. Between the tank size and fish size it looks like it might work.

08/22/2007, 12:01 AM	#19
rppvt rppvt Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 484	Vermont, bygod! Good to see someone else from the green mountain state on here. Even tho I'm stranded on the west coast! Good luck with your tangs.

08/22/2007, 07:28 AM	#20
ace35 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vermont (NW) Posts: 11	Hey Vermonters! Just wanted to feel like I belonged and say "hi." Curious what LFS you go to?