180 plumbing problem w/ micro bubbles

cpandrewschmidt · 09/04/2007, 08:50 PM

Hi all,
Just got the 180 up and running. I'm using a Dart Sequence return. I have a durso standpipe for my drain. It's 1.25" per the recommendation of the durso website(www.dursostandpipes.com)

After the the buildhead I go back up to 1.25" tubing with the same size ball valve. For my return I'm using 1 " pipe up to my 3/4" locline tubes.

I'm getting crazy bubbles into the sump. I assume it's from my drain as they are sucking down a LOT of air into the sump. However, I'm not convinced it's not the pump either. I turn the ball valves down to slow the flow but then my pump sucks it up to fast into the tank. I don't want to cut any more flow on the pump by turning that ball valve down to match it because then the pump is pretty much useless.

Should I be using 1" PVC with 1" ball valves after my bulkhead to drain into the tank? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Andrew

cpandrewschmidt · 09/05/2007, 10:08 AM

anyone have an idea

thanks

scottk · 09/05/2007, 10:47 AM

I have the size tank with a dart on a 75 gallon sump. I ended up putting 100 micron socks over the inlets to the sump to quell the bubbles. Have 2 sets and change them out weekly. The baffle arrangement takes care of the rest. I'm running mine WFO. The only problem is that with that much flow, I have to be wary with the pump compartment of the sump and make sure it doesn't get too low or I get bubbles from that end............

cpandrewschmidt · 09/05/2007, 12:49 PM

I really didn't want to run micron socks as I'm too lazy to clean them out but if worse comes to worse i might have to. Where do you find those?

Does anyone know if smaller piping after the bulkhead actually makes a difference? I'm not sure how the physics behind it works.

cpandrewschmidt · 09/07/2007, 12:07 PM

One last ttt for thoughts/ideas before i cut up my plumbing to try the 1" pipe. Thanks!

Andrew

09/04/2007, 08:50 PM	#1
cpandrewschmidt Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 249	180 plumbing problem w/ micro bubbles Hi all, Just got the 180 up and running. I'm using a Dart Sequence return. I have a durso standpipe for my drain. It's 1.25" per the recommendation of the durso website(www.dursostandpipes.com) After the the buildhead I go back up to 1.25" tubing with the same size ball valve. For my return I'm using 1 " pipe up to my 3/4" locline tubes. I'm getting crazy bubbles into the sump. I assume it's from my drain as they are sucking down a LOT of air into the sump. However, I'm not convinced it's not the pump either. I turn the ball valves down to slow the flow but then my pump sucks it up to fast into the tank. I don't want to cut any more flow on the pump by turning that ball valve down to match it because then the pump is pretty much useless. Should I be using 1" PVC with 1" ball valves after my bulkhead to drain into the tank? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Andrew

09/05/2007, 10:08 AM	#2
cpandrewschmidt Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 249	anyone have an idea thanks

09/05/2007, 10:47 AM	#3
scottk Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 118	I have the size tank with a dart on a 75 gallon sump. I ended up putting 100 micron socks over the inlets to the sump to quell the bubbles. Have 2 sets and change them out weekly. The baffle arrangement takes care of the rest. I'm running mine WFO. The only problem is that with that much flow, I have to be wary with the pump compartment of the sump and make sure it doesn't get too low or I get bubbles from that end............

09/05/2007, 12:49 PM	#4
cpandrewschmidt Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 249	I really didn't want to run micron socks as I'm too lazy to clean them out but if worse comes to worse i might have to. Where do you find those? Does anyone know if smaller piping after the bulkhead actually makes a difference? I'm not sure how the physics behind it works.

09/07/2007, 12:07 PM	#5
cpandrewschmidt Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 249	One last ttt for thoughts/ideas before i cut up my plumbing to try the 1" pipe. Thanks! Andrew