Please Help - Sick Fish - Need a Remedy

MADJABJOE · 09/11/2007, 07:30 PM

Used

Here is what I have done already:
1: CopperSafe - 1 Week - Did not work
2. Two freshwater dips - Did not work
3. Mardel Maricide treatment for Ick - Did not work
4. Currently trying Mardel fungicide treatment for true fungal infections.

I originally thougt this was Ick but after the spots started to grow I decided it was not.

If you have some advice I would sure appreciate it!

Thanks!

cd77 · 09/11/2007, 07:32 PM

Hyposalinity quarantine?

MADJABJOE · 09/11/2007, 07:35 PM

It is currently in quarantine. I am not sure what hyposalinity means?

cd77 · 09/11/2007, 07:45 PM

Try here: Hyposalinity

And here: Another Reference

Lower your specific gravity very gradually over a 72 hour period (see the 2nd reference) to about 1.01 and keep the temp between 79-82Â°F. Do regular hyposalinity water changes for 4 weeks following the disappearance of the ich (or whatever it is you have) then gradually raise the salinity back up to your tank level.

Keep a close eye on whatever other fish you may have in your display tank too unless you intend to pull them all immediately.

Disclaimer: I'm just a newbie with google access and too much spare time. If a veteran chimes in with different advice, then disregard everything I've just typed

fishyvet · 09/11/2007, 07:46 PM

A closer pictures of the lesions would be helpful but it appears like a lymphocystis infection (try googleing it and see what you think). It is a viral infection which will have to run its course. Most fish will recover uneventfully if lesions do not involve the mouth to prevent feeding or the gill area hindering respiration.

Maintain optimal water quality and feed him the very best you can. Fresh foods with garlic and/or beta glucan may stimulate his immune system to help fight it off.

bertoni · 09/11/2007, 07:47 PM

I agree that it looks like lymphocystis.

MADJABJOE · 09/11/2007, 07:57 PM

I just googled it and I think your right? Lymphocystis! It says no cure but is there any thing I can do to help like use a antibiotic to help with secondary infection. If so, what kind?

cd77 · 09/11/2007, 08:03 PM

Check this link out. Very interesting read regarding Lymphocystis.

fishyvet · 09/11/2007, 08:10 PM

If the fish is behaving normally, I don't see a need to add antibiotics unless it develops sings of infection (lesions ulcerate, red streaks or blotches). Treatment with antimicrobials unnecessarily leads to antibiotic resistant organisms which are very difficult to deal with.

The best course of action is to keep up with your water quality and feed a high quality diet. Try the garlic and beta glucan if you want to "medicate" with something. It will most likely improve with a little tincture of time

Percula9 · 09/12/2007, 10:21 AM

Lymphocystis needs good nutrition.

itsthesong · 09/12/2007, 10:32 AM

It's definetly lymphocystis. Good nutrition, good water quality and it should clear up. Try soaking food in garlic extract before feedings.

09/11/2007, 07:30 PM	#1
MADJABJOE Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waterloo, Iowa Posts: 53	Please Help - Sick Fish - Need a Remedy Used Here is what I have done already: 1: CopperSafe - 1 Week - Did not work 2. Two freshwater dips - Did not work 3. Mardel Maricide treatment for Ick - Did not work 4. Currently trying Mardel fungicide treatment for true fungal infections. I originally thougt this was Ick but after the spots started to grow I decided it was not. If you have some advice I would sure appreciate it! Thanks!

09/11/2007, 07:32 PM	#2
cd77 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fishers, IN, USA Posts: 1,169	Hyposalinity quarantine? __________________ -Chris Current Tank Info: 70G Reef (Aug 2007), 45G Reef (Dec 2007)

09/11/2007, 07:45 PM	#4
cd77 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fishers, IN, USA Posts: 1,169	Try here: Hyposalinity And here: Another Reference Lower your specific gravity very gradually over a 72 hour period (see the 2nd reference) to about 1.01 and keep the temp between 79-82Â°F. Do regular hyposalinity water changes for 4 weeks following the disappearance of the ich (or whatever it is you have) then gradually raise the salinity back up to your tank level. Keep a close eye on whatever other fish you may have in your display tank too unless you intend to pull them all immediately. Disclaimer: I'm just a newbie with google access and too much spare time. If a veteran chimes in with different advice, then disregard everything I've just typed __________________ -Chris Current Tank Info: 70G Reef (Aug 2007), 45G Reef (Dec 2007)

09/11/2007, 07:47 PM	#6
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I agree that it looks like lymphocystis. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

09/11/2007, 08:03 PM	#8
cd77 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fishers, IN, USA Posts: 1,169	Check this link out. Very interesting read regarding Lymphocystis. __________________ -Chris Current Tank Info: 70G Reef (Aug 2007), 45G Reef (Dec 2007)

09/11/2007, 07:35 PM	#3
MADJABJOE Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waterloo, Iowa Posts: 53	It is currently in quarantine. I am not sure what hyposalinity means?

09/11/2007, 07:46 PM	#5
fishyvet Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville FL Posts: 463	A closer pictures of the lesions would be helpful but it appears like a lymphocystis infection (try googleing it and see what you think). It is a viral infection which will have to run its course. Most fish will recover uneventfully if lesions do not involve the mouth to prevent feeding or the gill area hindering respiration. Maintain optimal water quality and feed him the very best you can. Fresh foods with garlic and/or beta glucan may stimulate his immune system to help fight it off.

09/11/2007, 07:57 PM	#7
MADJABJOE Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waterloo, Iowa Posts: 53	I just googled it and I think your right? Lymphocystis! It says no cure but is there any thing I can do to help like use a antibiotic to help with secondary infection. If so, what kind?

09/11/2007, 08:10 PM	#9
fishyvet Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville FL Posts: 463	If the fish is behaving normally, I don't see a need to add antibiotics unless it develops sings of infection (lesions ulcerate, red streaks or blotches). Treatment with antimicrobials unnecessarily leads to antibiotic resistant organisms which are very difficult to deal with. The best course of action is to keep up with your water quality and feed a high quality diet. Try the garlic and beta glucan if you want to "medicate" with something. It will most likely improve with a little tincture of time

09/12/2007, 10:21 AM	#10
Percula9 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orange County CA Posts: 3,819	Lymphocystis needs good nutrition.

09/12/2007, 10:32 AM	#11
itsthesong Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Anywhere I want to be Posts: 183	It's definetly lymphocystis. Good nutrition, good water quality and it should clear up. Try soaking food in garlic extract before feedings.