Ideas to stock 180 FOWLR??

JasonColtsFan · 09/25/2007, 07:45 AM

so I am new to salt water tanks... and i am looking for some idea's on a stock list...

A little background...
I have 180 tank with sump center drilled out to drain...

180 lbs of live rock and 180lbs of sand....

I also have a ca reactor...

I let the tank cycle for 1 week with live rock and sand... then added some clean up crew due to alge...

I let the tank go two more weeks after clean up crew, so total of three weeks, all water levels were good so I bought 8 Damsels...
3 yellow tale 2 blue 2 (not sure what they are black with yellow tails, and 1 orangeish...

all my water is very stable so I want to start adding a real stock list... I plan to pull all 8 Damsels when I add anything else...

Idea's? I want color and active...

Thanks!

tanker · 09/25/2007, 09:39 AM

If you doing FOWLR you will not need a CA reactor (for coral/reef only).

Good Luck trying to catch 8 damsels in a 180 with LR.

This is your option. Many small fishes?? 3-4 big fishes with a few small?? Preditory tank?? A panther grouper and a marine betta. ect.

JasonColtsFan · 09/25/2007, 12:27 PM

would this work?
1 Annularis Angel (add last 6 more months and as a junv)
1 Dog Face Puffer
1 Yellow Tang
1 Blue Hippo Tang
1 Harliquin Tusk Wrasse
2 Perclua Clowns or Maroon Clowns

or is that two much?

Yeah I am a little worried about catching the damsels

thanks again

fatrip · 09/25/2007, 12:45 PM

you will have more than enought room for those fish...have fun with those damsels...try catching them after the lights go out, or early in the morning before they come on...

sparkiesford · 09/25/2007, 12:55 PM

Dragon Moray Eel, or a Tessalata Eel
very cool
Dragons are pricey though.

JasonColtsFan · 09/25/2007, 01:14 PM

I have read take the total size of all your fish X3 and that should be the size of the tank... is this true... could I add an eel with the fish I mentioned and not over stock with out taking anything away?
Am i better off with 2 percula clowns or 1 maroon?

papagimp · 09/25/2007, 01:19 PM

Jason, havint the wide variety of fish and the differences in their bioload addition and behavoirs kinda throws out any general rules like that. There will always be large amounts of exceptions.

Not sure on the Eel, I'd imagine as long as it couldn't fit any of it's tankmates into it's mouth that they'd be okay.

for the clowns, I'm always happier with a pair of clowns vs. just one. The behavoir differences makes it worth getting the mate. Percula's will be a little more timid than the aggressive maroons. But also don't get nearly as large, at least not as large as a female maroon (seen some 5-7" specimens before) This does not indicate at all that the percula's wont attack you when you reach in the tank either. I've seen some meanies there too.

MRICKEN1012 · 09/25/2007, 01:27 PM

Get a dogface puffer. I love mine, he is just like a puppy....Also I would do triggers!

JasonColtsFan · 09/26/2007, 07:37 AM

yeah I saw a dog face puffer and that is the one fish i am pretty set on getting... onther than that I am trying to get some good suggestions...
I feel like I should have a yellow tang and pair of clowns because it is my first salt water tank... and those are the fish I am most familiar to seeing...

I like Angels (and I know I cant get one for at least 6 more months) but I am trying to plan out my tank, so I do not over stock and can keep everybody...

yakfishin · 09/26/2007, 01:18 PM

"then added some clean up crew due to alge..."

If you do the puffer or triggers you probably won't have a clean up crew in there for very long. If your not worried about growing coraline, then lighting beyond what you need for your own viewing purposes doesn't become an issue, and so algae buildup usually won't occur. If I did a FOWLR, I would have to add a red coris. Saw one in my LFS just last week and it was so pretty I almost wanted to transform my reef to a FOWLR! Wonder is the Mrs. will let me get another tank?? Highly doubtful.

petoonia · 09/26/2007, 02:05 PM

I would have some type of trigger. Thats the one type fish I have always wanted, but never been able to have the right set up for it. I really like the huma huma trigger, or the clown trigger.

If your going to go with more aggresive tankmates, I would get the maroon clowns.

09/25/2007, 07:45 AM	#1
JasonColtsFan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: McCordsville Posts: 97	Ideas to stock 180 FOWLR?? so I am new to salt water tanks... and i am looking for some idea's on a stock list... A little background... I have 180 tank with sump center drilled out to drain... 180 lbs of live rock and 180lbs of sand.... I also have a ca reactor... I let the tank cycle for 1 week with live rock and sand... then added some clean up crew due to alge... I let the tank go two more weeks after clean up crew, so total of three weeks, all water levels were good so I bought 8 Damsels... 3 yellow tale 2 blue 2 (not sure what they are black with yellow tails, and 1 orangeish... all my water is very stable so I want to start adding a real stock list... I plan to pull all 8 Damsels when I add anything else... Idea's? I want color and active... Thanks!

09/25/2007, 12:45 PM	#4
fatrip Yup That Stuff Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , ny Posts: 4,317	you will have more than enought room for those fish...have fun with those damsels...try catching them after the lights go out, or early in the morning before they come on... __________________ Vince "We learn from history that we never learn anything from history." Hegel

09/25/2007, 01:19 PM	#7
papagimp COMAS Rocks! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 8,185 Blog Entries: 2	Jason, havint the wide variety of fish and the differences in their bioload addition and behavoirs kinda throws out any general rules like that. There will always be large amounts of exceptions. Not sure on the Eel, I'd imagine as long as it couldn't fit any of it's tankmates into it's mouth that they'd be okay. for the clowns, I'm always happier with a pair of clowns vs. just one. The behavoir differences makes it worth getting the mate. Percula's will be a little more timid than the aggressive maroons. But also don't get nearly as large, at least not as large as a female maroon (seen some 5-7" specimens before) This does not indicate at all that the percula's wont attack you when you reach in the tank either. I've seen some meanies there too. __________________ 58g Softie & 75g Stoney Member, Central Oklahoma Marine Aquarium Society Current Tank Info: 58g Mixed Reef Project - Started June 2011

09/26/2007, 02:05 PM	#11
petoonia HereWeGoAgain... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,648	I would have some type of trigger. Thats the one type fish I have always wanted, but never been able to have the right set up for it. I really like the huma huma trigger, or the clown trigger. If your going to go with more aggresive tankmates, I would get the maroon clowns. __________________ I've been in the hobby for about 10 years....(so I know a little bit)...(but not all that much).... Current Tank Info: 58G. Oceanic (Starphire). Mixed Reef

09/25/2007, 09:39 AM	#2
tanker Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: sf bay area Posts: 3,522	If you doing FOWLR you will not need a CA reactor (for coral/reef only). Good Luck trying to catch 8 damsels in a 180 with LR. This is your option. Many small fishes?? 3-4 big fishes with a few small?? Preditory tank?? A panther grouper and a marine betta. ect.

09/25/2007, 12:27 PM	#3
JasonColtsFan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: McCordsville Posts: 97	would this work? 1 Annularis Angel (add last 6 more months and as a junv) 1 Dog Face Puffer 1 Yellow Tang 1 Blue Hippo Tang 1 Harliquin Tusk Wrasse 2 Perclua Clowns or Maroon Clowns or is that two much? Yeah I am a little worried about catching the damsels thanks again

09/25/2007, 12:55 PM	#5
sparkiesford Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 109	Dragon Moray Eel, or a Tessalata Eel very cool Dragons are pricey though.

09/25/2007, 01:14 PM	#6
JasonColtsFan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: McCordsville Posts: 97	I have read take the total size of all your fish X3 and that should be the size of the tank... is this true... could I add an eel with the fish I mentioned and not over stock with out taking anything away? Am i better off with 2 percula clowns or 1 maroon?

09/25/2007, 01:27 PM	#8
MRICKEN1012 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: michigan Posts: 662	Get a dogface puffer. I love mine, he is just like a puppy....Also I would do triggers!

09/26/2007, 07:37 AM	#9
JasonColtsFan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: McCordsville Posts: 97	yeah I saw a dog face puffer and that is the one fish i am pretty set on getting... onther than that I am trying to get some good suggestions... I feel like I should have a yellow tang and pair of clowns because it is my first salt water tank... and those are the fish I am most familiar to seeing... I like Angels (and I know I cant get one for at least 6 more months) but I am trying to plan out my tank, so I do not over stock and can keep everybody...

09/26/2007, 01:18 PM	#10
yakfishin Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 696	"then added some clean up crew due to alge..." If you do the puffer or triggers you probably won't have a clean up crew in there for very long. If your not worried about growing coraline, then lighting beyond what you need for your own viewing purposes doesn't become an issue, and so algae buildup usually won't occur. If I did a FOWLR, I would have to add a red coris. Saw one in my LFS just last week and it was so pretty I almost wanted to transform my reef to a FOWLR! Wonder is the Mrs. will let me get another tank?? Highly doubtful.