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Unread 12/04/2007, 07:34 PM   #1
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Sfiligoi?

Why are their 1 x 250w MH pendants a thousand dollars more than the rest?


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Unread 12/04/2007, 07:55 PM   #2
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If you have to ask....


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Unread 12/04/2007, 09:13 PM   #3
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because they're the best...


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Unread 12/04/2007, 10:15 PM   #4
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Ever notice how the more unpronounceable the name, the more expensive it is? Geisemann, Tunze....

The cheap ones are easy to pronounce: Rio, Seio....


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Unread 12/04/2007, 10:18 PM   #5
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Ever notice how the more unpronounceable the name, the more expensive it is? Geisemann, Tunze....

The cheap ones are easy to pronounce: Rio, Seio....
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Unread 12/04/2007, 10:26 PM   #6
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1. Infinity XR4 Pendants and XR6 Pendants have a uniform light coverage on the water surface of 35.4” x 27.6”

2. Infinity XR4 and XR6 Pendants can use SE or DE bulbs and comes in silver or special order black.

3. A switch with grants the possibility of installing both 250watt and 400watts bulbs.

4. The sliding system makes the lamp holder move and you can locate the bulb burner at the very center of the reflector.

5. Made in Italy


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Unread 12/04/2007, 10:36 PM   #7
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And they're beautifully designed


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Unread 12/04/2007, 11:18 PM   #8
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And, they are personally rowed across the ocean and walked across the countryside to your home!

Kidding. Maybe. I have been waiting for 3 months now for two of these pendants. Supposedly waiting to clear customs now for the last couple of weeks. Maybe they think I am going to grow some plants... I don't know.

Saw the brand and had to vent.

I hope it will be worth it! I will let you know.

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Unread 12/05/2007, 12:04 PM   #9
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If you have to ask....
I have to ask because there aren't any specs or features listed on the website I saw them on. When I see a ferarri I know it's because it has insane HP, great on the track, and comes with a free trophy wife despite your physical appearance. But we're talking about a lighting pendant and no feature list.


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Unread 12/05/2007, 12:15 PM   #10
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Some specs & features:

http://www.aquariumobsessed.com/Sfiligoi/sfiligoi.htm


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Unread 12/05/2007, 01:12 PM   #11
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and comes with a free trophy wife despite your physical appearance.
No trophy wife or any wife for that matter is free. The trophy wife is a reward for paying the most to have it.

You are paying for a light that is well designed and thought out and for a name.


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Unread 12/05/2007, 01:55 PM   #12
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No trophy wife or any wife for that matter is free. The trophy wife is a reward for paying the most to have it.
Haha that is true. I was just trying to make a funny


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Unread 12/05/2007, 02:03 PM   #13
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Thanks, that link helped out.


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Unread 12/05/2007, 02:18 PM   #14
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I think they are the only dimmable metal halide fixure. I could be wrong though.


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Unread 12/05/2007, 02:43 PM   #15
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After seeing Fliger's experience I don't think I would buy them if I could afford them. Premium price should come with premium customer service. JMO


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Unread 12/05/2007, 03:05 PM   #16
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I thought Fliger was satisfied by the efforts of Sfilifio and AO to rectify by the end of his ordeal even though he still sold the fixture?

In any case I just scored a slightly used Sfiligio Stealth 8x54W + 2x250HQI pendant and man is it gorgeous and bright as hell when its on. I can't believe other manufacturers haven't really introduced MH/T5 fixtures with lots of T5s since you can cram so many into a fixture because of their narrow width. T5s are great, but only when you can run different bulb combos.

I can't wait to get a rimless starphire tank to hang this baby over and do it justice!

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Unread 12/05/2007, 03:31 PM   #17
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[B]When I see a ferarri I know it's because it has insane HP, great on the track, and comes with a free trophy wife despite your physical appearance./B]
I know when I drive my cousins Ferrari 360 girls that wouldn't look twice start blushing and flirting. Hmm maybe I can hang my sfiligoi from my station wagon and get the same effect?


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Unread 12/05/2007, 04:54 PM   #18
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I wouldn't say I was satisfied with the efforts - only the outcome. It took months to resolve, I lost a lot of corals and time, and it cost me a lot more than what I paid for the fixture - as I had to buy a different fixture while I waited for the issue to be resolved. But after a LOT of trying, I finally got a fix - and it worked beautifully. The reflectors are huge! Its a very large fixture and IMO your tank needs to be large, otherwise it looks disproportionate IMO.

Although I'm NOT the only person who had to battle to get an XR4 fixed - I believe they have worked out their issues (I hope). That Stealth looks like a nice fixture - congrats James, give us some pix! And I totally agree that makers should cram more T5 in fixtures. I jumped at the chance to buy a Photon - which is 2x400W + 6x54W. Eight would be even sweeter if you have a super wide tank.

I doubt I'd ever buy Sfiligoi again. Not that the company itself is bad - I had great dealings with Alessandro. But the fact that my issue could have been cleared up in a week, and it took months - I just feel a little burned. But I'm sure there is someone out there that feels burned by even the best manufacturers/distributors.

edit - couple more things, the coral losses weren't TOTALLY due to the light not working, but it was probably the largest factor. also, i have owned a LOT of high end fixtures and would definitely not say sfiligoi is the "best" - but on par with the other high end fixtures. i've had a few giesemanns, an elos, a very high end aquamedic, and the photon (along with other cheapies I wouldn't mention). they're all priced similar, and some have different advantages over others in certain applications. the big adv of the XR4/6 is definitely the spread. it really depends on your application. james you'd better post some pix of that bad boy.


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Unread 12/05/2007, 05:40 PM   #19
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burton14e7, See above post!!!

The specifications on any and all Sfiligoi are on the web. You need to jump on the German and Italian websites and use google.com "Language Tools". If all else fails call Will over at AO. I would say most if any of the problems in the past have been worked out by now. Dimmable T5 will be here in March 08 via the ACLS.


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Unread 12/05/2007, 05:51 PM   #20
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Dimmable T5 will be here in March 08 via the ACLS.
If I've learned anything now from importers/distributors - its to add several months to any date that is given. Or years. Some vendors are much worst (infamous) than others. This one might be doable though, since dimmable T5 is already here in the US.


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Sorry David,

I wasn't trying to speak for you by any means. I appreciate your many posts on the high-end equipment you have personally tried. Believe me with the Stealth I traded for, I made damn sure it worked properly first. I was just ecstatic to get one as I would never be able to buy one at retail.

Its going to be awhile till I get it up as it won't fit my current tank and I'm determined to put this one on a rimless starphire tank.

So you had a Photon. I must have missed that one. Whats you evaluation of it?

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Unread 12/05/2007, 06:44 PM   #22
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Oh dude what are you apologizing for man - I wanna see that Stealth! I've never seen a real picture, only renderings. Looks like a nice fixture.

I like the Photon very much. flyingphish has a smaller version - I think he likes his as well. Although last night one of my Aquaconnects decided not to turn on - I hope its the ballast and not the bulb, easier to replace!

There are pix of mine and his over here

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...8#post11292578


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Ill get a pic of my Stealth soon.

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