need advice before tomorrow:-)

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 08:52 PM

Hi everybody,my friend just called me to tell me that he got for me 3 yellowhead jawfish a mated pair and a single and a green banded goby. Just have right now 1 ocellaris and 1 tomato but have a couple of inverts. (4 scarlet cleaner shrimps,3 peppermint shrimps,6 scarlet hermits,3 emerald crabs,2 turbos and 6 f.dusters) My question is the inverts count like the fishes when we are talking about overstocking the tank? I know that they are a bio load but count like the fishes? and can I add the fishes that i mentioned?

75gals,LR 120lbs,LS about 70lbs.
Thanks in advance guys.

tapplehave · 12/19/2007, 08:59 PM

I don't think you need to worry about the invert bio load, but that is a big stock of fish for a 75. Do you have lots of rock? Lots of LR and a good skimmer and proper water changes you should make it. Be careful of the tomato, if he is big and dominate, there could be some territory issues.

tapplehave · 12/19/2007, 09:01 PM

Sorry Diver, I now see the 120lbs in you discription, you should be fine.

Aadler · 12/19/2007, 09:04 PM

6 small fish on a 75 is a lot? I think you should be fine, unless like tapple said the tomoto starts to pick on the smaller fish (as he grows).

Expect some algae if you add all 4 at one time however, as you will be feeding a lot more and have a lot more waste than you have now, if you can add the pair, or all three then the other one or viceversa.

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 09:05 PM

Thanks tapple, my tomato is ok, im not worry about him,so the amount of fishes that i described are ok with the inverts?

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 09:08 PM

Ok Aadler im going to quarantine them for 2-3 weeks and then add them to the tank but i will follow your recommendation. Thanks..

tapplehave · 12/19/2007, 09:21 PM

Can do on the amount of fish, as a matter of fact I would say you could add more to your detris pack or clean up crew. This is an example of a tank cleaner pack for a 75 gal. reef= Trochus Snail 20,Super Tongan Nassarius Snail 15 ,Cerith Snail 30 ,Scarlet Reef Hermit Crab 25 (http://www.liveaquaria.com/)

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 09:31 PM

What happen is that here in PR the LFS dont carry those snails. And if i get them from the web its going to be expensive for the shipping. Thanks buddy.

kau_cinta_ku · 12/19/2007, 09:35 PM

sounds to me like you only have about a 2" sandbed and IMO that isn't very deep for jawfish.

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 09:38 PM

yeap thats wright, but in some places are about 3" think they will find out the deeper spot? and 3 of them will be ok?

kau_cinta_ku · 12/19/2007, 09:44 PM

3 will be ok as they do well in colonies. but according to Scott W. Michael " It must have at least 3.1 in. (8cm) of mixed substrate, including sand of varying grades and small pieces of shell and/or reef rubble so that it can construct a burrow"

hope that helps

baldomero · 12/19/2007, 09:45 PM

diver i seen your tank you would be ok just keep up with the maintenance,and dont forget to check my tank tomorrow and do a water change ok bro LOL...........

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 09:54 PM

No problems baldo i will, and Kau I have the same book you have, my sand is about 3" in some spots but i will buy some more sand to addto my tank. Will they do ok for a couple of weeks until i add the sand?

baldomero · 12/19/2007, 09:58 PM

diver just kudding just check my water thanks.

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 10:01 PM

hey baldo gary catch those fishes for me im going to get them tomorrow knowing him going to ask me about $5.00 for all of them :-)
I love that guy!

kau_cinta_ku · 12/19/2007, 10:05 PM

yeah, I would say they will be fine for a while.

Diver4life · 12/19/2007, 10:06 PM

Good, Thanks kau_cinta_ku for your help.

kau_cinta_ku · 12/19/2007, 10:09 PM

anytime, and good luck.

baldomero · 12/20/2007, 03:39 PM

DIVER CALL GARY AND ASK HIM HOW MUCH FOR THE RED TAILED TRIGGER?IM GOING TO PUERTO RICO ON THE FOURTH OF JANUARY AND I WANNA BUY EM . ALSO ASK HIM CAN HE CATCH A QUEEN ANGEL FOR ME.

Diver4life · 12/20/2007, 05:00 PM

Baldo im going to call him tomorrow, he gave me 2 yellowhead jaw,and 7 green banded goby,and 6 small scarlet hermits for $5.00 today bro.
hey i checked your tank man, call me if you want.

Ralph ATL · 12/20/2007, 06:06 PM

you're fine even for a 75 gallon

Diver4life · 12/21/2007, 06:58 PM

Thanks mysterybox for your reply.

12/19/2007, 08:52 PM	#1
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	need advice before tomorrow:-) Hi everybody,my friend just called me to tell me that he got for me 3 yellowhead jawfish a mated pair and a single and a green banded goby. Just have right now 1 ocellaris and 1 tomato but have a couple of inverts. (4 scarlet cleaner shrimps,3 peppermint shrimps,6 scarlet hermits,3 emerald crabs,2 turbos and 6 f.dusters) My question is the inverts count like the fishes when we are talking about overstocking the tank? I know that they are a bio load but count like the fishes? and can I add the fishes that i mentioned? 75gals,LR 120lbs,LS about 70lbs. Thanks in advance guys. __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 09:04 PM	#4
Aadler Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,336	6 small fish on a 75 is a lot? I think you should be fine, unless like tapple said the tomoto starts to pick on the smaller fish (as he grows). Expect some algae if you add all 4 at one time however, as you will be feeding a lot more and have a lot more waste than you have now, if you can add the pair, or all three then the other one or viceversa. __________________ MiniBow 7 - WooHoo

12/19/2007, 09:05 PM	#5
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	Thanks tapple, my tomato is ok, im not worry about him,so the amount of fishes that i described are ok with the inverts? __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 09:08 PM	#6
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	Ok Aadler im going to quarantine them for 2-3 weeks and then add them to the tank but i will follow your recommendation. Thanks.. __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 09:31 PM	#8
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	What happen is that here in PR the LFS dont carry those snails. And if i get them from the web its going to be expensive for the shipping. Thanks buddy. __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 08:59 PM	#2
tapplehave Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: midwest Posts: 10	I don't think you need to worry about the invert bio load, but that is a big stock of fish for a 75. Do you have lots of rock? Lots of LR and a good skimmer and proper water changes you should make it. Be careful of the tomato, if he is big and dominate, there could be some territory issues.

12/19/2007, 09:01 PM	#3
tapplehave Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: midwest Posts: 10	Sorry Diver, I now see the 120lbs in you discription, you should be fine.

12/19/2007, 09:21 PM	#7
tapplehave Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: midwest Posts: 10	Can do on the amount of fish, as a matter of fact I would say you could add more to your detris pack or clean up crew. This is an example of a tank cleaner pack for a 75 gal. reef= Trochus Snail 20,Super Tongan Nassarius Snail 15 ,Cerith Snail 30 ,Scarlet Reef Hermit Crab 25 (http://www.liveaquaria.com/)

12/19/2007, 09:35 PM	#9
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	sounds to me like you only have about a 2" sandbed and IMO that isn't very deep for jawfish.

12/19/2007, 09:38 PM	#10
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	yeap thats wright, but in some places are about 3" think they will find out the deeper spot? and 3 of them will be ok? __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 09:44 PM	#11
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	3 will be ok as they do well in colonies. but according to Scott W. Michael " It must have at least 3.1 in. (8cm) of mixed substrate, including sand of varying grades and small pieces of shell and/or reef rubble so that it can construct a burrow" hope that helps

12/19/2007, 09:45 PM	#12
baldomero Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aguada,puerto rico Posts: 902	diver i seen your tank you would be ok just keep up with the maintenance,and dont forget to check my tank tomorrow and do a water change ok bro LOL...........

12/19/2007, 09:54 PM	#13
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	No problems baldo i will, and Kau I have the same book you have, my sand is about 3" in some spots but i will buy some more sand to addto my tank. Will they do ok for a couple of weeks until i add the sand? __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 09:58 PM	#14
baldomero Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aguada,puerto rico Posts: 902	diver just kudding just check my water thanks.

12/19/2007, 10:01 PM	#15
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	hey baldo gary catch those fishes for me im going to get them tomorrow knowing him going to ask me about $5.00 for all of them :-) I love that guy! __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 10:05 PM	#16
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	yeah, I would say they will be fine for a while.

12/19/2007, 10:06 PM	#17
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	Good, Thanks kau_cinta_ku for your help. __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/19/2007, 10:09 PM	#18
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	anytime, and good luck.

12/20/2007, 03:39 PM	#19
baldomero Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aguada,puerto rico Posts: 902	DIVER CALL GARY AND ASK HIM HOW MUCH FOR THE RED TAILED TRIGGER?IM GOING TO PUERTO RICO ON THE FOURTH OF JANUARY AND I WANNA BUY EM . ALSO ASK HIM CAN HE CATCH A QUEEN ANGEL FOR ME.

12/20/2007, 05:00 PM	#20
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	Baldo im going to call him tomorrow, he gave me 2 yellowhead jaw,and 7 green banded goby,and 6 small scarlet hermits for $5.00 today bro. hey i checked your tank man, call me if you want. __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.

12/20/2007, 06:06 PM	#21
Ralph ATL Formerly mysterybox Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Flowery Branch, GA (North ATL) Posts: 1,842	you're fine even for a 75 gallon __________________ Ralph Scheriff

12/21/2007, 06:58 PM	#22
Diver4life Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines FL Posts: 482	Thanks mysterybox for your reply. __________________ We are the minority but we are a proud specie! (Scuba Divers 4 life). Current Tank Info: 90 gal, 110 lb LR, 90 lb LS, 29 gal sump/fuge, ASM G1 skimmer, Mag 9 return pump, solar xtreme 48'' T5, Koralias 1400, Reefkeeper Lite Plus.