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Unread 01/15/2008, 09:04 PM   #1
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something on my powder blue (pics)

I came home tonight and found this thing on my powder blue. It has been in quarantine now since jan 6. My parms are below. He is the only fish in there. I have a pvc elbow in there for him to hide in. He gets formula 2 every other day and a samll pc of nori soaked in garlic the rest of the time. He eats like a pig. Look at his top fin. You will see a small lump on the fin. It looks like its beige in color. I wasnt there yesterday. any ideas






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Unread 01/15/2008, 09:37 PM   #2
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Anybody have any ideas.......Is there something I left out that might help? These were the best pics I could get.


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Unread 01/15/2008, 10:54 PM   #3
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I guess no one has an answer...I tried ..........Thanks for looking anyway


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Unread 01/15/2008, 10:58 PM   #4
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Without a close up of the bump it's kinda hard to tell and diagnose. try and get a closer pic of the bump


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Unread 01/15/2008, 11:01 PM   #5
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try posting this in the fish disease and health forum--you might get a quicker answer.
I stumped but its good its in the quarantine tank


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Unread 01/15/2008, 11:02 PM   #6
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Maybe he scraped himself? i have no idea


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Unread 01/15/2008, 11:22 PM   #7
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I can make it a close up in photobucket but i dont know how to post it close up. It wont stay that way


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Unread 01/16/2008, 12:04 AM   #8
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Looks like a little infection cause by small injury of his top fin. You should add some antibiotic to your q-tank to control it. I assuming that "thing" is getting bigger from day to day right?


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Unread 01/16/2008, 12:48 AM   #9
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a little piece of nori stuck to his fins probably???, i dont know either, lol

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Unread 01/16/2008, 12:51 AM   #10
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Could be a spot of lymphocystis,a viral infection usually to a wound or stress related. No known treatment except low stress and good nutrition along with monitoring for secondary infection. In mild cases it can clear up on it's own but it can take along time. In severe cases it can be removed by the aquarist, usually by scraping with a fiingeror by debreeding surgically not a usual option for most.


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Unread 01/16/2008, 07:48 AM   #11
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I would also guess lympho if I had to.

BTW, he is skinny. Fatten him up with various meatier foods 3x a day. Nori is great once they are settled in and have regained their fat reserves, but after all that shipping, they need more than that, IME. Frozen Formual foods, mysis, shrimp, scallop, plankton...


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Unread 01/16/2008, 07:59 AM   #12
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Yeah, I'd say feeding every other day is way too little.... A malnourished fish is more likely to succumb to parasites and infections. Step up the feedings to two or three a day but less food/feeding than you normally feed.


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Unread 01/16/2008, 08:31 AM   #13
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I keep 6 Tangs. I feed 2x per day. AM:mix of frozen brine,mysis,bloodworm,cylopeese ,clip of dried seaweed,spirulina flake and prime reef flake. PM: justthe frozen mix. I've had several over five years and they are thick and healthy.


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Unread 01/16/2008, 10:44 PM   #14
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Thank you all for the info..yes i agree he is skinny. he was like that when I got him also. I will definitely increase the feedings. And I do have alot of the above mentioned foods in my freezer....Ill get some antibiotic tomorrow...and he definitely has low stress


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Thank you all for the info..yes i agree he is skinny. he was like that when I got him also. I will definitely increase the feedings. And I do have alot of the above mentioned foods in my freezer....Ill get some antibiotic tomorrow...and he definitely has low stress
remember to rinse the frozen food with r/o water before using--they can pick up alot of phosphates and nitrates from their breeding tanks.

I would suggest a clip with nori on it or some kelp etc--tangs are grazers so they like to nibble all day rather then consume alot in one or two feeds

on that note I would also suggest more very light feedings rather then alot at once or it won'[t get eaten and cause another phosphate or nitrate problem(algae) in your tank.

I would also soak the flakes in garlic guard--at least one feeding a day--over along period this helps fish build up their immunity systems


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Unread 01/16/2008, 11:03 PM   #16
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he does get the nori in a clip as you can see in one of the photos. I have kent garlic extreme. I got tired of mashing fresh garlic. Ill soak his food in that. I make my own food for the others and kents seems to be ok.


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Unread 01/16/2008, 11:47 PM   #17
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If this tang is going to join you re 55 gallon...GET RID OF IT...tangs need a minimum of 100 gallons....You should research you re animals before you buy. that fish is an ick magnet and in small setup like you res will die real shortly and cause the rest of you re animals to get ick aswell.
Maximum Size: the Acanthurus leucosternon grows up to 10 inches.
General Size Specifications: The small size will come to you generally 1 to 2 inches; the medium generally 3 to 4 inches; the large generally 5 to 6 inches.
Minimum Tank Size: The Powder Blue Tang prefers a tank of at least 100 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Acanthurus leucosternon is a herbivore and likes to eat Dried Seaweed (best), marine algae, mysid shrimp, Spirulina, Romaine Lettuce (blanched) , fresh seaweed, and other meaty treats.
Level of Care: The Powder Blue Tang is a high maintenance fish.
Behavior: The Powder Blue Tang may act peacefully toward other fish.
Hardiness: This is not a hardy fish.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).
Range: Maldives, Sri Lanka.
General Notes: The Acanthurus leucosternon is also known as the Powder Blue tang is one of the most prized fish in the hobby but many disregard the specialized care and attention this baby blue beauty requires. Though a weakness that is common in the tangs, ich is a very common problem with this fish. The Powder Blue Tang is often very aggressive with all other tangs but there is the occasional exception (very rare). The larger the system the less likely the problems with aggression you will have if housed with multiple tangs. Males are considerably smaller than females. Adult size is from 9 - 10 inches depending on sex of fish.

stop being irresponsible you have a living animal...like i always ask..i could ship you to Australia in 3X3 box...you will eat...live in that 3X3 box...how long before you get sick...or die?


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Unread 01/16/2008, 11:54 PM   #18
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george81, If you are quoting most of your post from a book give credit to the author and let the rest of us know the reference. It's not nice to use someone else's text as your own.


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george81, If you are quoting most of your post from a book give credit to the author and let the rest of us know the reference. It's not nice to use someone else's text as your own.
usually the link to the web site where you got it is good enough--besides giving credit to the author it is also helpful to other posters who want to read more


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never meant to pass it off as my own work...just to inform someone
http://www.marinedepotlive.com/powde...sh--tangs.html


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I personally would not attempt an Acanthurus leucosternmon in my 120gallon. Having said that the fish is there and it is ill and I'd like to assist in saving it so it can outgrow the tank.


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If this tang is going to join you re 55 gallon...GET RID OF IT...tangs need a minimum of 100 gallons....You should research you re animals before you buy. that fish is an ick magnet and in small setup like you res will die real shortly and cause the rest of you re animals to get ick aswell.
Maximum Size: the Acanthurus leucosternon grows up to 10 inches.
General Size Specifications: The small size will come to you generally 1 to 2 inches; the medium generally 3 to 4 inches; the large generally 5 to 6 inches.
Minimum Tank Size: The Powder Blue Tang prefers a tank of at least 100 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.
Diet: The Acanthurus leucosternon is a herbivore and likes to eat Dried Seaweed (best), marine algae, mysid shrimp, Spirulina, Romaine Lettuce (blanched) , fresh seaweed, and other meaty treats.
Level of Care: The Powder Blue Tang is a high maintenance fish.
Behavior: The Powder Blue Tang may act peacefully toward other fish.
Hardiness: This is not a hardy fish.
Water Conditions: Keep water quality high (SG 1.020 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).
Range: Maldives, Sri Lanka.
General Notes: The Acanthurus leucosternon is also known as the Powder Blue tang is one of the most prized fish in the hobby but many disregard the specialized care and attention this baby blue beauty requires. Though a weakness that is common in the tangs, ich is a very common problem with this fish. The Powder Blue Tang is often very aggressive with all other tangs but there is the occasional exception (very rare). The larger the system the less likely the problems with aggression you will have if housed with multiple tangs. Males are considerably smaller than females. Adult size is from 9 - 10 inches depending on sex of fish.

stop being irresponsible you have a living animal...like i always ask..i could ship you to Australia in 3X3 box...you will eat...live in that 3X3 box...how long before you get sick...or die?

george you really need to investigate the person you are speaking to before you go off on a rant. Just because all you see in my info is a 55 doesnt mean thats all I have. I may have more.... assume just gets your u know what in trouble.......I know it doesnt belong in a 55...Its going in a 110.......


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