ID this GUNK!!!!

gig · 01/22/2008, 01:54 PM

This started appearing when I had high TDS (it was above 10, maybe 14) and since then I've done two water changes with zero TDS water (I normally do 30g a month) and I have an ATO system using the RODI.

I thought I had beaten it, but it's come back and it sucks:

1 Pic and 1 video to see it in action

My parameters are:

Temp 78.5
SG 1.025
Mg 1280
Ca 320 (I've struggled to get this higher)
KH 9 Dkh
ph 8.3

gig · 01/22/2008, 04:36 PM

c'mon! 45 views! someone has to know!

chris31 · 01/22/2008, 04:44 PM

looks like a real bad case bubble alege to me
anyone else want to second this?

jdoenumber2 · 01/22/2008, 04:45 PM

Is it isolated? Have you made any changes lately?

LockeOak · 01/22/2008, 05:06 PM

Some kind of bacterial mat would be my guess.

chrismunn · 01/22/2008, 05:13 PM

well son, it appears to me that you, have a GUNK problem!

chrismunn · 01/22/2008, 05:15 PM

is there bubbles in it? i want to say bryopsis. but i honestly have no idea!

bph0013 · 01/22/2008, 05:15 PM

I agree, some kind of bacterial mat. Are you running phosguard or anything? Have you increased the bioload lately?

gig · 01/22/2008, 05:38 PM

hmmm, I'm leaning toward the bacterial angle because my substrate is very hard in places last time I did a water change about 3 weeks ago, I had to break it up.

It's all over the tank, but that rock is really covered, some rocks are not.

gig · 01/22/2008, 09:47 PM

will phosgard take care of the Bacteria Mat? My phosphates are zero

The_Browns · 01/22/2008, 09:59 PM

Looks exactly like what I have. Look at the link beklow and see the 2nd picture. Then there is a close up further down. No one knew what is was.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1290317

gig · 01/22/2008, 10:04 PM

yep, it does look similar, does it grow like weeds as well? I syphon it out, but it comes back, it even grows on the glass. it looks like little white/grey hairs. It's a scourge!

TomRep · 01/22/2008, 10:19 PM

Check out this thread http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1300678
Looks like dinos to me.
tom

gig · 01/23/2008, 08:20 AM

Thanks Tom!

Good stuff, it does seem to be Dinos, my PH tends to stick around 8.25 to 8.30, even with the Kalkreactor, I may need to increase the drip, as it only drips about 1 drop every 2-3 seconds.

I'll adjust my photoperiod as well, along with the siphoning out the goop, which I already do, but not as often as I should.

01/22/2008, 01:54 PM	#1
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	ID this GUNK!!!! This started appearing when I had high TDS (it was above 10, maybe 14) and since then I've done two water changes with zero TDS water (I normally do 30g a month) and I have an ATO system using the RODI. I thought I had beaten it, but it's come back and it sucks: 1 Pic and 1 video to see it in action My parameters are: Temp 78.5 SG 1.025 Mg 1280 Ca 320 (I've struggled to get this higher) KH 9 Dkh ph 8.3 __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

01/22/2008, 04:36 PM	#2
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	c'mon! 45 views! someone has to know! __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

01/22/2008, 05:13 PM	#6
chrismunn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,200	well son, it appears to me that you, have a GUNK problem! __________________ Marine Aquarists Association of South Texas Austin Reef Club PBITAWA... Current Tank Info: 14g bio cube

01/22/2008, 05:15 PM	#7
chrismunn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,200	is there bubbles in it? i want to say bryopsis. but i honestly have no idea! __________________ Marine Aquarists Association of South Texas Austin Reef Club PBITAWA... Current Tank Info: 14g bio cube

01/22/2008, 05:15 PM	#8
bph0013 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 317	I agree, some kind of bacterial mat. Are you running phosguard or anything? Have you increased the bioload lately? __________________ Ben Current Tank Info: 40br SPS Reef, 20H sump/refugium, L3MS on a ARO 250W E-ballast, 250w XM 20k bulb, 2 x Tunze 6025 NS, Tunze 9005 DOC Skimmer, Mag 5 return

01/22/2008, 04:44 PM	#3
chris31 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: long island NY Posts: 928	looks like a real bad case bubble alege to me anyone else want to second this?

01/22/2008, 04:45 PM	#4
jdoenumber2 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairport, NY Posts: 2,093	Is it isolated? Have you made any changes lately?

01/22/2008, 05:06 PM	#5
LockeOak Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 839	Some kind of bacterial mat would be my guess.

01/22/2008, 05:38 PM	#9
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	hmmm, I'm leaning toward the bacterial angle because my substrate is very hard in places last time I did a water change about 3 weeks ago, I had to break it up. It's all over the tank, but that rock is really covered, some rocks are not. __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

01/22/2008, 09:47 PM	#10
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	will phosgard take care of the Bacteria Mat? My phosphates are zero __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

01/22/2008, 09:59 PM	#11
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Looks exactly like what I have. Look at the link beklow and see the 2nd picture. Then there is a close up further down. No one knew what is was. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1290317 __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/22/2008, 10:04 PM	#12
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	yep, it does look similar, does it grow like weeds as well? I syphon it out, but it comes back, it even grows on the glass. it looks like little white/grey hairs. It's a scourge! __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.

01/22/2008, 10:19 PM	#13
TomRep Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fleetwood, PA 19522 Posts: 1,219	Check out this thread http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1300678 Looks like dinos to me. tom __________________ "I got me a big wave, ride me a big wave, got me a big..WAVE!" Ed Vedder It's a reef thing, you wouldn't understand! Current Tank Info: 50 breeder w/o sump mixed reef, sps dominant. NEP T5 fixture with no stock bulbs, Bermuda Rogue HOB skimmer, canister filter, DIY hang on fuge, 2x modded MJ400's, Tunze Osmolator ATO, Randy's 2 part dosed with and Aquamedic twin

01/23/2008, 08:20 AM	#14
gig Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 3,003	Thanks Tom! Good stuff, it does seem to be Dinos, my PH tends to stick around 8.25 to 8.30, even with the Kalkreactor, I may need to increase the drip, as it only drips about 1 drop every 2-3 seconds. I'll adjust my photoperiod as well, along with the siphoning out the goop, which I already do, but not as often as I should. __________________ It's ILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! Current Tank Info: Current Tank Info: 180G RR in wall mixed reef moving toward SPS dominated (247 gal total system), 300lbs+ LR, VHO/T5 mix of lighting, X3 MP40w ES.