Need ID's on a few Things

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 05:26 PM

I just picjed up some LR, fish, and corals today from someone that was taking down their tank. I noticed a few things on the rocks and snails that I want to get ID'ed before I put anything in the tank.

#1

#2

#3

#4

The snail looks light Hair algae and I know I do not want that in my tank if it is. I did not notice anything like what is on the snail on the rocks.

I don't know what is wrong with the clowns eye, it has white in it.

Can I get some input?

Thanks in advance....

kar93 · 01/25/2008, 05:55 PM

1, Aiptasia
2, hair algae
3, Clownfish
4, Not sure looks like some sort of algae

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kar93
1, Aiptasia
2, hair algae
3, Clownfish
4, Not sure looks like some sort of algae

I know #3 is a clown, I want to know whats wrong with his eye.

BangkokMatt · 01/25/2008, 06:03 PM

The clownfishes cloudy eye generally indicates poor health. QT it and get him well fed. S/he will probably be ok with time.

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 06:05 PM

He is in QT, The snails came from the same tank but I inspected the LR and dont see any trace of hair algae on it, Will it still be ok to use the rock? Plus I still need to know what #1 and #4 are for sure.

Everything in #1 came on a piece of rock that I got today, I need to know what everything on that rock is on #1

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 06:49 PM

Anyone? Still looking for definite answers. We are really new, only 4 months and tank just got done cycling so I am not putting anything that I got today in the main display.

I need to know:
What everything is
What I should do after everything is ID'd to ensure I will have a stable system.

Not panicking!!!!!

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kar93
1, Aiptasia
2, hair algae
3, Clownfish
4, Not sure looks like some sort of algae

After a little research I have to go with you kar93 on what #1 and #2 is

Salamander · 01/25/2008, 07:54 PM

#4 looks like colonial hydroids. Nasty buggers that will spread and are about the hardest thing I've ever dealt with. Thought I had them licked by pulling my rock and going to town with the drill and masonry bit but they're back again after 6 months.

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 10:20 PM

We have ouor Main DT which just got done cycling. Nothing but sand. LR, and saltwater in the tank. We have all the stuff we bought today.

So far, This is what is going on since we bought all of this today.

we have the following fish in QT:
1 Clarki Clown
3 Chromis
1 Blue Damsil
1Orange Spotted Goby

For corals in QT we have:
1 Toadstool Leather
4 kenya trees.

All of them are in one QT tank. We bought a brand new 10g complete system for QT.

We also have all new rock we got today in a brute trashcan with water and a powerhead, No lights. I know of about 3-4 rocks with Apstatia on it.

Anymore suggestion on what to do?

DJChesnutRabbit · 01/25/2008, 10:29 PM

1. Aptasia
2. Hair algae, Briopsis if it looks like little feathers.
3. Bacterial infection, maybe popeye
4. Hydriods

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJChesnutRabbit
1. Aptasia
2. Hair algae, Briopsis if it looks like little feathers.
3. Bacterial infection, maybe popeye
4. Hydriods

So should I get rid of the snails, they also came with the stuff I bought today. Everything came from an established tank that was not being kept up with that good I think.

What can you do about Hydroids?

D-Rod · 01/25/2008, 10:32 PM

I second #4 looks like colonial hydroids.

DJChesnutRabbit · 01/25/2008, 10:33 PM

Kalk paste for the aptasia
Pull as much of the algae off as you can.
With good params. the eye will likely get better on it's own.
Tweeze off as many of the hydroids as you can and kalk what remains..

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 10:38 PM

Should I get the new live rock under control, remove all bad things and then put in the main display. Like I said, the main DT is perfect, all water params. I don't want to screw it up. We got this new rock from someone to have a wider selection to build our aquascape. So the tank is waiting more rock, then quick cycle and fish. I just don't want to do it early.

What about a blow torch to the hydroids ...

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 10:39 PM

Double Post

DJChesnutRabbit · 01/25/2008, 10:47 PM

This may sound radical, but you can take a scrub brush to the LR and get any excess algae off beforehand. What I think I would do is kalk the aptasia, the scrub the heck out of the rock and rinse with SW.

Blowtorch to the hydroids is perfectly acceptable.

Salamander · 01/25/2008, 11:08 PM

You'll have short term limited success with a blowtorch on the hydroids. They're tough. Kalk, tweezing, epoxy, scraping etc is useless. They'll be back quick. They're the one pest I just can't get rid of after a few years of attempts.

If its only on that one rock I'd say ditch it. let it dry for quite a few months and then get it back in. Chiseling may be an option but the tubes are just part of them. They live deep in the rock too.

jhendu · 01/25/2008, 11:12 PM

Blowtorching, I think I like that idea as a way to handle tank pests. I'd have to say that the dry it out idea is a good one. Once you reintroduce it to the tank it will be as good as new but without the baddies.

BangkokMatt · 01/25/2008, 11:15 PM

I would just get rid of the hydroid rock.

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 11:16 PM

How long would you dry the rock? If thats the way to go

jhendu · 01/25/2008, 11:20 PM

Me, I would dry it for at least 2 weeks in the sun if able. You want to make sure that there is no way that the stuff is still alive. I would pick as much crap off the rock as I could during this time as well. After a couple weeks I would put it in a rubbermaid with some of your old tank water from a water change and let it sit in there with a poerhead for another 2 weeks or so to "recharge" it and see if there is anything that survived somehow.

reeformadness · 01/25/2008, 11:20 PM

Even that might not stop hydroids. I've heard they can produce spores that can live in all kinds of environments and stay dormant for a long time.

jhendu · 01/25/2008, 11:24 PM

If that doesn't work you've only lost a little bit of your time. How large is this rock? Is it even worth the effort?

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jhendu
If that doesn't work you've only lost a little bit of your time. How large is this rock? Is it even worth the effort?

65-75 lbs but not all of it has that stuff on it

jhendu · 01/25/2008, 11:38 PM

That sounds worth the effort then. I would give it a try. Like I said, only thing you have to lose is time. Or research the things and decide for yourself how bad you think they are.

01/25/2008, 06:05 PM	#5
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	He is in QT, The snails came from the same tank but I inspected the LR and dont see any trace of hair algae on it, Will it still be ok to use the rock? Plus I still need to know what #1 and #4 are for sure. Everything in #1 came on a piece of rock that I got today, I need to know what everything on that rock is on #1 __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank Last edited by The_Browns; 01/25/2008 at 06:11 PM.

01/25/2008, 06:49 PM	#6
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Anyone? Still looking for definite answers. We are really new, only 4 months and tank just got done cycling so I am not putting anything that I got today in the main display. I need to know: What everything is What I should do after everything is ID'd to ensure I will have a stable system. Not panicking!!!!! __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/25/2008, 07:54 PM	#8
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	#4 looks like colonial hydroids. Nasty buggers that will spread and are about the hardest thing I've ever dealt with. Thought I had them licked by pulling my rock and going to town with the drill and masonry bit but they're back again after 6 months. __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT

01/25/2008, 10:20 PM	#9
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	We have ouor Main DT which just got done cycling. Nothing but sand. LR, and saltwater in the tank. We have all the stuff we bought today. So far, This is what is going on since we bought all of this today. we have the following fish in QT: 1 Clarki Clown 3 Chromis 1 Blue Damsil 1Orange Spotted Goby For corals in QT we have: 1 Toadstool Leather 4 kenya trees. All of them are in one QT tank. We bought a brand new 10g complete system for QT. We also have all new rock we got today in a brute trashcan with water and a powerhead, No lights. I know of about 3-4 rocks with Apstatia on it. Anymore suggestion on what to do? __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank Last edited by The_Browns; 01/25/2008 at 10:27 PM.

01/25/2008, 10:29 PM	#10
DJChesnutRabbit Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kissimmee, FL Posts: 1,018	1. Aptasia 2. Hair algae, Briopsis if it looks like little feathers. 3. Bacterial infection, maybe popeye 4. Hydriods __________________ Philosophy is a team sport! -Timothy Leary Freedom is something that dies unless it's used -Hunter S. Thompson Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. -Louis Hector Berlioz Current Tank Info: Acrylic 25g BB mixed reef, AquaC Remora, AquaC media reactor, Aquamedic Oceanlight 250w MH, Mag 5 return, Iwaki MD-40RLT on closed loop, MRC CR-5, Tunze Osmolator

01/25/2008, 05:26 PM	#1
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Need ID's on a few Things I just picjed up some LR, fish, and corals today from someone that was taking down their tank. I noticed a few things on the rocks and snails that I want to get ID'ed before I put anything in the tank. #1 #2 #3 #4 The snail looks light Hair algae and I know I do not want that in my tank if it is. I did not notice anything like what is on the snail on the rocks. I don't know what is wrong with the clowns eye, it has white in it. Can I get some input? Thanks in advance.... __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/25/2008, 05:55 PM	#2
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	1, Aiptasia 2, hair algae 3, Clownfish 4, Not sure looks like some sort of algae

01/25/2008, 06:03 PM	#4
BangkokMatt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Krung Thep Posts: 3,100	The clownfishes cloudy eye generally indicates poor health. QT it and get him well fed. S/he will probably be ok with time. __________________ I've spent a lot of money on booze, women and fish. The rest I just squandered. Current Tank Info: 150g sps Reef (now FOWLR after a devastating crash due to chiller) , 2x400w MH (Icecap ballast, Lumenmax 2, Reeflux 12k SE), Deltec AP701, Grotech Tec III, Chiller, 2 x Tunze 6101, 1 x 6205 (+ m/c), bla bla

01/25/2008, 10:32 PM	#12
D-Rod Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Posts: 1,020	I second #4 looks like colonial hydroids. __________________ The Vino Man - I Trade With Wine...Just Ask! Current Tank Info: Small Tank, Lights, Fish; Tangs a whole bunch, 4 False Perculas, 6 rose anemones Mixed Reef.

01/25/2008, 10:33 PM	#13
DJChesnutRabbit Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kissimmee, FL Posts: 1,018	Kalk paste for the aptasia Pull as much of the algae off as you can. With good params. the eye will likely get better on it's own. Tweeze off as many of the hydroids as you can and kalk what remains.. __________________ Philosophy is a team sport! -Timothy Leary Freedom is something that dies unless it's used -Hunter S. Thompson Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. -Louis Hector Berlioz Current Tank Info: Acrylic 25g BB mixed reef, AquaC Remora, AquaC media reactor, Aquamedic Oceanlight 250w MH, Mag 5 return, Iwaki MD-40RLT on closed loop, MRC CR-5, Tunze Osmolator

01/25/2008, 10:38 PM	#14
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Should I get the new live rock under control, remove all bad things and then put in the main display. Like I said, the main DT is perfect, all water params. I don't want to screw it up. We got this new rock from someone to have a wider selection to build our aquascape. So the tank is waiting more rock, then quick cycle and fish. I just don't want to do it early. What about a blow torch to the hydroids ... __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/25/2008, 10:39 PM	#15
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Double Post __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/25/2008, 10:47 PM	#16
DJChesnutRabbit Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kissimmee, FL Posts: 1,018	This may sound radical, but you can take a scrub brush to the LR and get any excess algae off beforehand. What I think I would do is kalk the aptasia, the scrub the heck out of the rock and rinse with SW. Blowtorch to the hydroids is perfectly acceptable. __________________ Philosophy is a team sport! -Timothy Leary Freedom is something that dies unless it's used -Hunter S. Thompson Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. -Louis Hector Berlioz Current Tank Info: Acrylic 25g BB mixed reef, AquaC Remora, AquaC media reactor, Aquamedic Oceanlight 250w MH, Mag 5 return, Iwaki MD-40RLT on closed loop, MRC CR-5, Tunze Osmolator

01/25/2008, 11:08 PM	#17
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	You'll have short term limited success with a blowtorch on the hydroids. They're tough. Kalk, tweezing, epoxy, scraping etc is useless. They'll be back quick. They're the one pest I just can't get rid of after a few years of attempts. If its only on that one rock I'd say ditch it. let it dry for quite a few months and then get it back in. Chiseling may be an option but the tubes are just part of them. They live deep in the rock too. __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT

01/25/2008, 11:12 PM	#18
jhendu Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 321	Blowtorching, I think I like that idea as a way to handle tank pests. I'd have to say that the dry it out idea is a good one. Once you reintroduce it to the tank it will be as good as new but without the baddies. __________________ Jason "I love it when a plan comes together" Click on the red house to see my tank build Current Tank Info: Nothing..moving to Germany

01/25/2008, 11:15 PM	#19
BangkokMatt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Krung Thep Posts: 3,100	I would just get rid of the hydroid rock. __________________ I've spent a lot of money on booze, women and fish. The rest I just squandered. Current Tank Info: 150g sps Reef (now FOWLR after a devastating crash due to chiller) , 2x400w MH (Icecap ballast, Lumenmax 2, Reeflux 12k SE), Deltec AP701, Grotech Tec III, Chiller, 2 x Tunze 6101, 1 x 6205 (+ m/c), bla bla

01/25/2008, 11:16 PM	#20
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	How long would you dry the rock? If thats the way to go __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/25/2008, 11:20 PM	#21
jhendu Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 321	Me, I would dry it for at least 2 weeks in the sun if able. You want to make sure that there is no way that the stuff is still alive. I would pick as much crap off the rock as I could during this time as well. After a couple weeks I would put it in a rubbermaid with some of your old tank water from a water change and let it sit in there with a poerhead for another 2 weeks or so to "recharge" it and see if there is anything that survived somehow. __________________ Jason "I love it when a plan comes together" Click on the red house to see my tank build Current Tank Info: Nothing..moving to Germany

01/25/2008, 11:20 PM	#22
reeformadness Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 650	Even that might not stop hydroids. I've heard they can produce spores that can live in all kinds of environments and stay dormant for a long time.

01/25/2008, 11:24 PM	#23
jhendu Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 321	If that doesn't work you've only lost a little bit of your time. How large is this rock? Is it even worth the effort? __________________ Jason "I love it when a plan comes together" Click on the red house to see my tank build Current Tank Info: Nothing..moving to Germany

01/25/2008, 11:38 PM	#25
jhendu Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 321	That sounds worth the effort then. I would give it a try. Like I said, only thing you have to lose is time. Or research the things and decide for yourself how bad you think they are. __________________ Jason "I love it when a plan comes together" Click on the red house to see my tank build Current Tank Info: Nothing..moving to Germany