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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:28 AM   #1
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Question sunburst anthias

what is the minimum tank size for an inch long sunburst?


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:30 AM   #2
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A 2 gallon Pico. LOL no I'm kidding, I actually don't know.


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:33 AM   #3
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With coral ita all about water quality and space. If you have room then no problem.Just learn to frag and trim your coral.


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:34 AM   #4
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haha i have heard a few things people have told me smaller tanks are ok and that huge tanks are a need


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:36 AM   #5
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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:39 AM   #6
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Smaller tanks require more attention.Water changes , testing , top off. They are a little more time consuming but a great learning tool. If you can keep this tank up and water quality high then you will have no trouble with a larger tank later.


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:40 AM   #7
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I would say at least a 60 gallon, and they need to eat a couple times a day


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:51 AM   #8
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alright thanks!


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:57 AM   #9
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http://www.asira.org/suncoral%28azooxanthellate%29


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Unread 02/03/2008, 12:59 AM   #10
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We're talking about a Sunburst Anthias, not a Sun Coral right???


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Unread 02/03/2008, 02:18 AM   #11
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Lance, I think you misread the title. he's asking about anthias, not sun coral.
OP, I don't know the answer to your question, but Lance probably does, so I just wanted to help him answer you.
heres the info sheet from marinedepot : http://www.marinedepotlive.com/fathe...--anthias.html
one from liveaquaria: http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p....cfm?pCatId=52
one from marinecenter: http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/ant...nburstanthias/

seems as though there is a large difference of opinion out there. i'm interested in what responses you might get from those who keep these. good luck.


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People tell me all kinds of things and i have proved many people wrong somehow... i myself dont really understand it so i guess i will be conducting an experiment... i will let you all know how it goes


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I just looked at your experience line. are you thinking of an anthia for the 14 gallon tank? if so, i would say that simply based on the fact that some sites recommend upwards of 80 gallons as a minimum size, that would be way too small. i would reconsider that choice, if that is your plan. look at a clown goby or something small with not a lot of swimming space required. good luck.


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Unread 02/03/2008, 05:59 AM   #14
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Too late i already have one and he is doing fine haha. thanks


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Unread 02/03/2008, 04:14 PM   #15
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well, good luck then (?) I'm a bit confused about why you asked the question in the first place?


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Unread 02/03/2008, 04:17 PM   #16
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With coral ita all about water quality and space. If you have room then no problem.Just learn to frag and trim your coral.
The Sunburst Anthias is a fish.


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Unread 02/03/2008, 04:19 PM   #17
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Sunbursts are not nice fish actually. They are pretty, but they tend to pick on other anthias, esp their own kind.

They are also touchy when it comes to keeping them happy. Hardy if you give them what they want, but still, a PITA fish IMO.

I woudnt suggest one for less than a 75g. Unless its the only fish in the tank, then a 40g.


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hahn, in a 40breeder, could you put a sunburst and some kind of bottom dwelling fish, like a goby or blenny?


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Too late i already have one and he is doing fine haha. thanks
What is the point of this thread than? Don't ask for advice if you are not going to listen to it


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Unread 02/03/2008, 04:32 PM   #20
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i see i HAVE to listen to whatever advice i get from here??


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Unread 02/03/2008, 04:44 PM   #21
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Sunbursts are not nice fish actually. They are pretty, but they tend to pick on other anthias, esp their own kind.

They are also touchy when it comes to keeping them happy. Hardy if you give them what they want, but still, a PITA fish IMO.

I woudnt suggest one for less than a 75g. Unless its the only fish in the tank, then a 40g.
We were at our LFS the other day buying some fish. Sunburts need to be on groups of 3 or more. 1 will stress, 2 will fight, and 3+ will be just fine. I really love these fish they're abs beautiful. Best regards to ya.


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Even with 2+, as they mature, they tend to pick each other off unless the 2 happen to be a pair. But as they mature, the pairs will become nasty to each other even. They remind me alot of bangii cardinals actually.


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Unread 02/03/2008, 06:02 PM   #23
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i see i HAVE to listen to whatever advice i get from here??
Nope certainly not, however there is a lot of experience here, even with Demon's easy to see mistake. Your fish are without a doubt in the wrong size tank and likely likely won't survive long as they grow. Likely to see neurological problems and aggression. I think it was a poor choice and I never promote or justify a livestock decision without at the very least looking the species up first to determine compatibility.

So, yes, the answer is a tough one and you definitely didn't want to hear it. I must admit I am a bit confused as why you asked your question in the first place if you had an idea that you wouldn't like the answer? But, the answer is really moot and you don't really need to justify your decision to anyone, just as we don't have to agree or condone bad livestock decisions.

Good luck, I recommend you take it back, it has a very high chance of not surviving long as it grows.


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Unread 02/03/2008, 06:06 PM   #24
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???????????

for anyone else actually interested in this fish..........

have one of these in our tank (210gal system)
beautiful fish... since adding it started feeding tank 2x/day although have heard that bec this is not as 'active' a fish as the other anthias that multiple feedings was not as necessary (they dont swim around much and tend to hover in one area)... one thing do notice is that its really picky eater... only eats hikari mysis and wont eat any other brand for some reason... also wont eat anything else like emerald entree etc (have only seen it eat the hikari mysis period!) it even spits the hikari out on regular basis before it finally gets a piece it likes... have a lot of mysid swimming around in the tank (as well as pods) and i wonder if it gets any of these on its own... have had it for 8mos or so and it appears atleast to be thriving...

its mostly peaceful
all its tankmates are a peaceful bunch - yet i do notice it on occasion pushing the chromis out the way - but i certainly dont consider it to be an aggressive fish whatsoever.

seems to be (some) contradictory info out there about this fish

would be interested in keeping more in a small school 3-5 if they would cohabitate well together... anyone ever kept these in larger numbers together ???

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i see i HAVE to listen to whatever advice i get from here??
Your posts speak for themselves, I don't need to say anymore


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