Wavebox info

MMM33732 · 02/05/2008, 12:06 PM

What pump and controller is best for a medium sized wavebox? It will be for a 125g tank. Anyone know what pump tunze uses in their wavebox and if a tunze 7091 controller would work? I'm not familiar with any of tunze's products, so anything roughly equivalent would work as well. Thanks in advance.

MMM33732 · 02/05/2008, 03:43 PM

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Setec · 02/05/2008, 03:59 PM

I have the Tunze wave box. I cannot say for sure, but the pump looks similar to my 6100 pump.

As for the controller, you do not need one. The wave box comes with its own and you will want to use that controller to create the wave.

datablitz · 02/05/2008, 05:32 PM

its either a 6100 or a 6200 i think, the wave box controller works different than all the other controllers

MMM33732 · 02/05/2008, 06:07 PM

I was curious about the controller because I plan to have the wave box built into my next tank, so buying the whole tunze wavebox would be a waste of money in my situation. However I would still need a controller and pump.

How does the wavebox controller differ from other controllers? I thought it just simply cycled the pump on and off at what ever speed you set to create the balanced wave effect. As long as a controller has a variable pulse setting that goes down to at least one second increments, I would think it would work fine, no?

datablitz · 02/05/2008, 07:21 PM

the other controlers dont turn the pump off, just ramp up and down

xtm · 02/05/2008, 08:04 PM

If you guys are interested, I DIY'ed a wavebox. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1duSSdjRb4

I used a 6100 and a custom controller, which is essentially a clone of their 6091 with "some" other features

USC-fan · 02/05/2008, 08:46 PM

tunze wavebox uses the 6200

MMM33732 · 02/06/2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by xtm
If you guys are interested, I DIY'ed a wavebox. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1duSSdjRb4

I used a 6100 and a custom controller, which is essentially a clone of their 6091 with "some" other features

Thats perfect. Any info on your controller build? How would you make the wave smaller/slower, by slowing it down or making the box smaller or actually just using a smaller pump? I want only about a 1" wave on a 6' 125g tank. I saw a vid of someone doing just that with a mj-1200. Not sure on his controller usage. Either way, 1200gph is much less than the 3000-5000 range I was originally thinking I would need.

Jar*Head · 02/06/2008, 01:26 PM

Tunze wavebox using the 6200 pump but the 6100 transformer. The new wavebox come with 6265 pump and the AC adapter is belong to the 6101.

xtm · 02/06/2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by MMM33732
Thats perfect. Any info on your controller build? How would you make the wave smaller/slower, by slowing it down or making the box smaller or actually just using a smaller pump? I want only about a 1" wave on a 6' 125g tank. I saw a vid of someone doing just that with a mj-1200. Not sure on his controller usage. Either way, 1200gph is much less than the 3000-5000 range I was originally thinking I would need.

The controller is just a simple 555 timer circuit that pulses the +8v on the Tunze's blue box. You will have to fine tune the controller to get a shorter wave.

noobwithatank · 02/06/2008, 07:54 PM

can u put together a DIY with a parts list and a spec sheet?

MMM33732 · 02/06/2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by noobwithatank
can u put together a DIY with a parts list and a spec sheet?

That would be nice

2crazyreefers · 02/06/2008, 09:09 PM

I believe the wavebox motor also goes in reverse which fills the box with water then pumps it back out to make the wave.

HellboundX · 02/06/2008, 09:37 PM

I too would like to see a DIY for the wave maker you made

Setec · 02/06/2008, 09:43 PM

The Tunze does not go in reverse. You can watch as the box fills back up as the wave moves to the other side of the tank and if you have it timed right, it kicks on when the box is at the top and pumps all of the water out causing a new wave.

I have watched mine several times and you can adjust the time based on how close the box fills to the time that the top of the wave hits the box. If you are dead on, so is the wave to box filling.

MMM33732 · 02/06/2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by 2crazyreefers
I believe the wavebox motor also goes in reverse which fills the box with water then pumps it back out to make the wave.

Nah. The water pressure difference from the higher level in the tank vs. the lower level in the box forces the water back into the box until they pump kicks back on again.

MMM33732 · 02/07/2008, 03:12 PM

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02/05/2008, 12:06 PM	#1
MMM33732 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 690	Wavebox info What pump and controller is best for a medium sized wavebox? It will be for a 125g tank. Anyone know what pump tunze uses in their wavebox and if a tunze 7091 controller would work? I'm not familiar with any of tunze's products, so anything roughly equivalent would work as well. Thanks in advance.

02/05/2008, 08:04 PM	#7
xtm Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Panorama City, CA Posts: 4,703	If you guys are interested, I DIY'ed a wavebox. Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1duSSdjRb4 I used a 6100 and a custom controller, which is essentially a clone of their 6091 with "some" other features __________________ Function before fashion Current Tank Info: 120g SPS Tank (48x24x24)

02/06/2008, 01:26 PM	#10
Jar*Head Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,630	Tunze wavebox using the 6200 pump but the 6100 transformer. The new wavebox come with 6265 pump and the AC adapter is belong to the 6101. __________________ Steve Tankless. Current Tank Info: 480g peninsula

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2crazyreefers Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vt. Posts: 733	I believe the wavebox motor also goes in reverse which fills the box with water then pumps it back out to make the wave. __________________ My 4 part recipie for my acros = calcium - alk - flow & luck.

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02/05/2008, 03:59 PM	#3
Setec Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 138	I have the Tunze wave box. I cannot say for sure, but the pump looks similar to my 6100 pump. As for the controller, you do not need one. The wave box comes with its own and you will want to use that controller to create the wave.

02/05/2008, 05:32 PM	#4
datablitz Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Blacklick, Ohio Posts: 347	its either a 6100 or a 6200 i think, the wave box controller works different than all the other controllers

02/05/2008, 06:07 PM	#5
MMM33732 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 690	I was curious about the controller because I plan to have the wave box built into my next tank, so buying the whole tunze wavebox would be a waste of money in my situation. However I would still need a controller and pump. How does the wavebox controller differ from other controllers? I thought it just simply cycled the pump on and off at what ever speed you set to create the balanced wave effect. As long as a controller has a variable pulse setting that goes down to at least one second increments, I would think it would work fine, no?

02/05/2008, 07:21 PM	#6
datablitz Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Blacklick, Ohio Posts: 347	the other controlers dont turn the pump off, just ramp up and down

02/05/2008, 08:46 PM	#8
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	tunze wavebox uses the 6200

02/06/2008, 07:54 PM	#12
noobwithatank Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Niagara, Ontario. Posts: 65	can u put together a DIY with a parts list and a spec sheet?

02/06/2008, 09:37 PM	#15
HellboundX Moved On Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: utah Posts: 93	I too would like to see a DIY for the wave maker you made

02/06/2008, 09:43 PM	#16
Setec Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 138	The Tunze does not go in reverse. You can watch as the box fills back up as the wave moves to the other side of the tank and if you have it timed right, it kicks on when the box is at the top and pumps all of the water out causing a new wave. I have watched mine several times and you can adjust the time based on how close the box fills to the time that the top of the wave hits the box. If you are dead on, so is the wave to box filling.

02/07/2008, 03:12 PM	#18
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