new tank plan

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 03:03 PM

well at first I was going for a reef setup, but after looking into anemones I really liked them so.....

first question is where can you find a pair of maroons and will they host a BTA?

second question other than those I planned on having some snails and hermits in the tank.... what else could I put with these.... I havn't looked into compatibility with these at all yet and I am just wondering..... could I add some sort of dwarf angel or lion fish.... any suggestions on colorful interesting fish would be nice.... this will not be happening for another few months, I am just looking for an idea on what I can have in my tank with these.....

Aquarist007 · 02/08/2008, 03:15 PM

snails and hermits are not a good mix--the hermits destroy the snails for their shells or just do it because they are genetically programed to do so.
There is no guarantee that a maroon will host a BTA

I would not add a lion fish to a reef tank

A dwarf angel would be fine--but generally only one dwarf in a tank can be tolerated ---the flame angel is very nice so is a coral beauty

HumanIMDB · 02/08/2008, 03:18 PM

The Lionfish will "host" your Maroons quite nicely...

By the sound of it, you are just starting and by asking before buying you are already on the right track.

Spend the next few months researching what you want to do and when you're ready to make the purchase, you'll be armed with valuable knowledge.

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 03:37 PM

well its not a reef really i just want a BTA thanks for info guys!

_E_ · 02/08/2008, 03:43 PM

Yes clowns should host in any anemone. If you but two clowns, make sure that one is bigger than the other (that one will turn female). Dwarf angel should be fine...the two that capn suggested are great. Just know for the future that some angels are known to nip at corals (if you decide to add some down the road). Avoid the lion, he will eat your clowns. Also anemones are best avoided in a new tank (i.e. one less than a year old). Reguardless of what the guys at the LFS tell you, you don't need an anemone to have clowns.
Eric

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 03:49 PM

not trying to be rude and thanks for info, but I know about everything you told me=] other than wasn't sure if a lion would eat a maroon seeing as they are pretty aggressive... and i heard its hard to pair maroons? my LFS actually has people that are very good with saltwater and told me about anemones, their lighting, watching out with corals, waiting for an established tank, etc... i can always trust what they say is true...

LovinDaReef · 02/08/2008, 03:56 PM

Clowns can change sex?

_E_ · 02/08/2008, 04:11 PM

Sorry James. Wasn't trying to belittle you, just didn't know what your knowledge base was. That's great that you have a LFS that you trust...that can be very valuable. Many of the ones that I have ran into had much less knowledge about things than I would have thought.

LovinDaReef,
Yes clowns change sex from male to female as they get older and as conditions warrant. If you ever see a reef tank with several of the same species of clowns, the big one (and only one) is the female; the little ones are her harem of males.
Eric

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 04:15 PM

Oh no I wasn't insulted at all I just wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page as me = ] and yeah the LFS thing is good... they've been around for a very long time and I get the same answers from them as I would on here

_E_ · 02/08/2008, 04:39 PM

You're very lucky James. I only have one part time employee at one of the LFS that I frequent that I feel I can trust. She will practically quiz you about a fish or invert before she will sell it to you. She definitely is more worried about the animal than making a buck. Very rare around me.
Eric

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 04:42 PM

ah yeah, It's funny going to petco then going to the LFS i always go to now... btw so other than the angel.... are there any other fish that might go good in my tank? something interesting and unique = D

Aquarist007 · 02/08/2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by HumanIMDB
The Lionfish will "host" your Maroons quite nicely...

in fact he will have them over for dinner right away

LovinDaReef · 02/08/2008, 04:44 PM

Gobies are nice, they have lots of personality and fun to watch. I hear they prefer deep sand beds, and an established pod colony.

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 04:47 PM

haha lionfish sound like very thoughtful creatures

Aquarist007 · 02/08/2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by jamest0o0
Oh no I wasn't insulted at all I just wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page as me = ] and yeah the LFS thing is good... they've been around for a very long time and I get the same answers from them as I would on here

sorry I am definetly not on the same page as you with regards to believing everything the LFS tells me

In fact with much experience dealing with them--I don't beleive anything they tell me

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 04:50 PM

all LFS's are different = D

Reef of Eden · 02/08/2008, 04:56 PM

i have a mated pair of maroon clowns hosted to a BTA that split in my tank. Now they are hosted to both the BTA.

I also keep a dwarf lion in the tank as well and they seem to not be bothered by each other at all. Not even at night when the lion fish goes swimming around.

maybe a regular lionfish would be an issue, but not a dwarf, especially if they are hosted to an anemone.

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 05:09 PM

I'll have to read more about that then... because I have always loved lionfish and wouldn't really care about size just don't want it to kill everything = D

Reef of Eden · 02/08/2008, 05:12 PM

dwarf lion will be fine, as long as the maroons have a nem and are bigger than what can fit in the lion's mouth you'll surley be fine.

I've had mine for almost over a year now.

jamest0o0 · 02/08/2008, 06:03 PM

any other suggestions on what to get?

02/08/2008, 03:03 PM	#1
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	new tank plan well at first I was going for a reef setup, but after looking into anemones I really liked them so..... first question is where can you find a pair of maroons and will they host a BTA? second question other than those I planned on having some snails and hermits in the tank.... what else could I put with these.... I havn't looked into compatibility with these at all yet and I am just wondering..... could I add some sort of dwarf angel or lion fish.... any suggestions on colorful interesting fish would be nice.... this will not be happening for another few months, I am just looking for an idea on what I can have in my tank with these.....

02/08/2008, 03:15 PM	#2
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	snails and hermits are not a good mix--the hermits destroy the snails for their shells or just do it because they are genetically programed to do so. There is no guarantee that a maroon will host a BTA I would not add a lion fish to a reef tank A dwarf angel would be fine--but generally only one dwarf in a tank can be tolerated ---the flame angel is very nice so is a coral beauty __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

02/08/2008, 03:18 PM	#3
HumanIMDB Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 1,556	The Lionfish will "host" your Maroons quite nicely... By the sound of it, you are just starting and by asking before buying you are already on the right track. Spend the next few months researching what you want to do and when you're ready to make the purchase, you'll be armed with valuable knowledge. __________________ Chris Rivers Will do computer support for frags. :) Click on the Red House to see our AGA92 Corner Reef Tank Build thread. Current Tank Info: 10 Gal (Aqualight 96W Quad 50/50, AquaClear Power Filter 70 with Chaeto lit by 6500K Bulb, AquaClear Power Head 20, 50w Tronic Heater), 92 Gal All-Glass Corner (Cycling)

02/08/2008, 03:37 PM	#4
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	well its not a reef really i just want a BTA thanks for info guys! __________________ Planning on new tank, been about 5-6 years since I've been in the hobby

02/08/2008, 03:43 PM	#5
_E_ Professional Lurker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Du Quoin, Illinois Posts: 1,169	Yes clowns should host in any anemone. If you but two clowns, make sure that one is bigger than the other (that one will turn female). Dwarf angel should be fine...the two that capn suggested are great. Just know for the future that some angels are known to nip at corals (if you decide to add some down the road). Avoid the lion, he will eat your clowns. Also anemones are best avoided in a new tank (i.e. one less than a year old). Reguardless of what the guys at the LFS tell you, you don't need an anemone to have clowns. Eric __________________ Eric "If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination." Current Tank Info: 140 DSA with basement sump room

02/08/2008, 03:49 PM	#6
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	not trying to be rude and thanks for info, but I know about everything you told me=] other than wasn't sure if a lion would eat a maroon seeing as they are pretty aggressive... and i heard its hard to pair maroons? my LFS actually has people that are very good with saltwater and told me about anemones, their lighting, watching out with corals, waiting for an established tank, etc... i can always trust what they say is true... __________________ Planning on new tank, been about 5-6 years since I've been in the hobby

02/08/2008, 03:56 PM	#7
LovinDaReef Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 267	Clowns can change sex?

02/08/2008, 04:11 PM	#8
_E_ Professional Lurker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Du Quoin, Illinois Posts: 1,169	Sorry James. Wasn't trying to belittle you, just didn't know what your knowledge base was. That's great that you have a LFS that you trust...that can be very valuable. Many of the ones that I have ran into had much less knowledge about things than I would have thought. LovinDaReef, Yes clowns change sex from male to female as they get older and as conditions warrant. If you ever see a reef tank with several of the same species of clowns, the big one (and only one) is the female; the little ones are her harem of males. Eric __________________ Eric "If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination." Current Tank Info: 140 DSA with basement sump room

02/08/2008, 04:15 PM	#9
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	Oh no I wasn't insulted at all I just wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page as me = ] and yeah the LFS thing is good... they've been around for a very long time and I get the same answers from them as I would on here __________________ Planning on new tank, been about 5-6 years since I've been in the hobby

02/08/2008, 04:39 PM	#10
_E_ Professional Lurker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Du Quoin, Illinois Posts: 1,169	You're very lucky James. I only have one part time employee at one of the LFS that I frequent that I feel I can trust. She will practically quiz you about a fish or invert before she will sell it to you. She definitely is more worried about the animal than making a buck. Very rare around me. Eric __________________ Eric "If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination." Current Tank Info: 140 DSA with basement sump room

02/08/2008, 04:42 PM	#11
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	ah yeah, It's funny going to petco then going to the LFS i always go to now... btw so other than the angel.... are there any other fish that might go good in my tank? something interesting and unique = D __________________ Planning on new tank, been about 5-6 years since I've been in the hobby

02/08/2008, 04:44 PM	#13
LovinDaReef Moved On Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 267	Gobies are nice, they have lots of personality and fun to watch. I hear they prefer deep sand beds, and an established pod colony.

02/08/2008, 04:47 PM	#14
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	haha lionfish sound like very thoughtful creatures

02/08/2008, 04:50 PM	#16
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	all LFS's are different = D __________________ Planning on new tank, been about 5-6 years since I've been in the hobby

02/08/2008, 04:56 PM	#17
Reef of Eden Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mid*Cal Posts: 169	i have a mated pair of maroon clowns hosted to a BTA that split in my tank. Now they are hosted to both the BTA. I also keep a dwarf lion in the tank as well and they seem to not be bothered by each other at all. Not even at night when the lion fish goes swimming around. maybe a regular lionfish would be an issue, but not a dwarf, especially if they are hosted to an anemone.

02/08/2008, 05:09 PM	#18
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	I'll have to read more about that then... because I have always loved lionfish and wouldn't really care about size just don't want it to kill everything = D __________________ Planning on new tank, been about 5-6 years since I've been in the hobby

02/08/2008, 05:12 PM	#19
Reef of Eden Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mid*Cal Posts: 169	dwarf lion will be fine, as long as the maroons have a nem and are bigger than what can fit in the lion's mouth you'll surley be fine. I've had mine for almost over a year now.

02/08/2008, 06:03 PM	#20
jamest0o0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,325	any other suggestions on what to get? __________________ Planning on new tank, been about 5-6 years since I've been in the hobby