Dual Overflows

beef3333 · 02/11/2008, 01:34 AM

Hey all,

Well i am trying to plan how to use the two one inch overflows in my 50 gallon. I am thinking one to go to the sump and one to go the the Fuge. The sump/fuge is an old 29 gallon that i have. MY question is what is the easiest way to make it so i could control how much flow goes to the fuge and the rest would go to the sump overflow. I was thinking a ball valve but not sure where to put it i will try and get some pictures of what i am thinking.

Thanks,

Beef

chef.lewis · 02/11/2008, 01:49 AM

I've done the same thing before I just made a giant "U-tube" to go between the sump + fuge. It turned out to be quite a pain in the butt so I just plumbed the two together. The problem is keeping both "sumps" filling and returning in harmony so that one or the other won't run dry. The Big U-tube is a great temporary fix for this if you dont mind jiggling out bubbles once a week.

heyfredyourhat · 02/11/2008, 01:54 AM

I have a 1" and a 1.5" on my 120. I ran my 1.5 gravity to my skimmer, and then to my fuge. And the smaller 1" overflow i use as a backup (it is a little higher up in my tank).

I have gate valves on everything, too many i think, but at least i can tweak everything as well.

beef3333 · 02/11/2008, 01:20 PM

Hey,

Here are the pictures that I made up real fast.

This is of my idea for the sump. It is a 29 gallon that is 30" long Let me know what you think.

Here is a shot of the back as I want to try. I would set the ball valve to only let what I want to go to the Fuge and the rest would go to the sump. Will this setup work out correctly.

Thanks for taking a look and here is a few other shots.

And finally a wireframe shot of the setup to see the plumbing

beef3333 · 02/11/2008, 04:30 PM

Anyone? Will this setup work and allow me to only send so much to the Fuge and the rest would go to the sump. I am using a quiet one 3000 as the return.

Thanks.

beef3333 · 02/11/2008, 09:39 PM

Anyone??

bump

RichardPryor · 02/11/2008, 10:02 PM

Free bump for someone with mad skills with computer graphics. What program did you use for those images?

alve · 02/11/2008, 10:07 PM

My left drain splits with a T, one side to the refugium, the other side of the T going to the rigth side where the skimmer is.
I put a ball valve on the pipe going to the refugium and a ball valve going towards the sump so I can dial them in depending how much flow I want to the refugium.
The right drain goes direct to the right sump side where the skimmer is.

beef3333 · 02/11/2008, 10:08 PM

It is made in 3D Studio Max, that is what I am going to school for and I decided to make a project out of this. This was just a quick mock up. Next is to model all the plumbing like it really is and then add the water hopefully. I want to try and make it at least look like it would when it is finished. Thanks for the comment.

beef3333 · 02/11/2008, 10:13 PM

Thanks Alve,

Looks like I am ready to go then, I will just have to go get a few more parts and the tank from the glass shop. Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to start the build thread about this tank finally.

beef3333 · 02/12/2008, 12:32 AM

Well i am working on making my tank in 3d so i figured i would post what i do here for a bit.

Here is a 90 Elbow

Let me know what you think.

Thanks

02/11/2008, 01:34 AM	#1
beef3333 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 52	Dual Overflows Hey all, Well i am trying to plan how to use the two one inch overflows in my 50 gallon. I am thinking one to go to the sump and one to go the the Fuge. The sump/fuge is an old 29 gallon that i have. MY question is what is the easiest way to make it so i could control how much flow goes to the fuge and the rest would go to the sump overflow. I was thinking a ball valve but not sure where to put it i will try and get some pictures of what i am thinking. Thanks, Beef

02/11/2008, 01:20 PM	#4
beef3333 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 52	Pictures Hey, Here are the pictures that I made up real fast. This is of my idea for the sump. It is a 29 gallon that is 30" long Let me know what you think. Here is a shot of the back as I want to try. I would set the ball valve to only let what I want to go to the Fuge and the rest would go to the sump. Will this setup work out correctly. Thanks for taking a look and here is a few other shots. And finally a wireframe shot of the setup to see the plumbing

02/11/2008, 04:30 PM	#5
beef3333 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 52	Anyone? Will this setup work and allow me to only send so much to the Fuge and the rest would go to the sump. I am using a quiet one 3000 as the return. Thanks. __________________ Click on Little Red House for Build Thread Current Tank Info: 50G Reef Display 29G Sump/Fuge Quiet One 300 Return/SCWD 2 x Koralia #3 1 x Koralia#2 .......Coming Soon Current USA Nova Extreme Pro and Tunze Skimmer

02/11/2008, 09:39 PM	#6
beef3333 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 52	Anyone?? bump __________________ Click on Little Red House for Build Thread Current Tank Info: 50G Reef Display 29G Sump/Fuge Quiet One 300 Return/SCWD 2 x Koralia #3 1 x Koralia#2 .......Coming Soon Current USA Nova Extreme Pro and Tunze Skimmer

02/11/2008, 10:08 PM	#9
beef3333 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 52	It is made in 3D Studio Max, that is what I am going to school for and I decided to make a project out of this. This was just a quick mock up. Next is to model all the plumbing like it really is and then add the water hopefully. I want to try and make it at least look like it would when it is finished. Thanks for the comment. __________________ Click on Little Red House for Build Thread Current Tank Info: 50G Reef Display 29G Sump/Fuge Quiet One 300 Return/SCWD 2 x Koralia #3 1 x Koralia#2 .......Coming Soon Current USA Nova Extreme Pro and Tunze Skimmer

02/11/2008, 01:49 AM	#2
chef.lewis Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Upland, Ca. Posts: 63	I've done the same thing before I just made a giant "U-tube" to go between the sump + fuge. It turned out to be quite a pain in the butt so I just plumbed the two together. The problem is keeping both "sumps" filling and returning in harmony so that one or the other won't run dry. The Big U-tube is a great temporary fix for this if you dont mind jiggling out bubbles once a week.

02/11/2008, 01:54 AM	#3
heyfredyourhat Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 963	I have a 1" and a 1.5" on my 120. I ran my 1.5 gravity to my skimmer, and then to my fuge. And the smaller 1" overflow i use as a backup (it is a little higher up in my tank). I have gate valves on everything, too many i think, but at least i can tweak everything as well.

02/11/2008, 10:02 PM	#7
RichardPryor Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 135	Free bump for someone with mad skills with computer graphics. What program did you use for those images?

02/11/2008, 10:07 PM	#8
alve Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 312	My left drain splits with a T, one side to the refugium, the other side of the T going to the rigth side where the skimmer is. I put a ball valve on the pipe going to the refugium and a ball valve going towards the sump so I can dial them in depending how much flow I want to the refugium. The right drain goes direct to the right sump side where the skimmer is.

02/11/2008, 10:13 PM	#10
beef3333 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 52	Thanks Alve, Looks like I am ready to go then, I will just have to go get a few more parts and the tank from the glass shop. Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to start the build thread about this tank finally. __________________ Click on Little Red House for Build Thread Current Tank Info: 50G Reef Display 29G Sump/Fuge Quiet One 300 Return/SCWD 2 x Koralia #3 1 x Koralia#2 .......Coming Soon Current USA Nova Extreme Pro and Tunze Skimmer

02/12/2008, 12:32 AM	#11
beef3333 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 52	90 Elbow Well i am working on making my tank in 3d so i figured i would post what i do here for a bit. Here is a 90 Elbow Let me know what you think. Thanks