green chromis missing

uglyryder · 03/15/2008, 08:18 PM

so i got one green chromis to help cycle my tank, ever since i put him in the tank he was very shy, he wouldn't eat if i was in the in room, he always stated at the back of the tank behind the heater or skimmer. he has been in there for 3 days now. but i come home from work and i cant seem to find him anywhere. i havent moved any rocks but ive looked everywhere i could see. do these guys jump??

Jon

amythist2486 · 03/15/2008, 08:26 PM

When I cycled my tank I put 6 in and a week later I only had five. I moved everything around in my tank and still could not find him. Most likely he died in the rock work. I would definately recommend buying a few more than you need though. My tank cycled almost a week faster than normal but I also added some sand from a friends tank that he had set up for a couple of years.

uglyryder · 03/15/2008, 08:29 PM

i just bought 2 more and im acclimating them now, i dont have much LR, but what i do have i got from a friends tank that has been running for many years he also gave me a cup or 2 of his sand.

tbundy · 03/15/2008, 08:30 PM

look around on the floor and then move the rock around. once you find him take him out... wait a good 4 to 5 weeks for the tank to cycle. in the mean time check out all the great resources here at reefcentral.com read the post about cycling the tank and even ask some questions. I can tell you that you are going to tick off alot of people here once they read that you used a live animal to help cycle the tank. There are better ways and more humane ways of doing so. If the tank doesnt seem to start a cycle on its own you can add a piece of shrimp and let that decay to start the cycle or "ghost feed" but using that poor little chromis is just wrong. Dont mean to sound like a jerk but it was the wrong thing to do. Adding a fish to cycle the tank will almost always end up with dead fishy

uglyryder · 03/15/2008, 08:34 PM

you make a good point, but thats what i was told to do. the way i understood it was that damsels as well as chromis could withstand the changes through the cycle. thats the only reason i did.

LostinTime · 03/15/2008, 08:37 PM

Did you check the overflow if you have one?

LoganTidwell · 03/15/2008, 09:33 PM

chromis dont do well solitary...usually need to be in groups of 3 or more to feel safe and secure...i just put 3 into my new 55 i started and they look like kids on a playground in front of the powerheads

tbundy · 03/15/2008, 09:45 PM

Yes chromis aswell as damsels are very hardy fish but they do suffer when the water perameters are off. the high ammonia with burn the gills making it difficult to breath. it is a practice that has been in the hobby forever but there are less cruel was to starting the cycle

Aquarist007 · 03/15/2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by tbundy
look around on the floor and then move the rock around. once you find him take him out... wait a good 4 to 5 weeks for the tank to cycle. in the mean time check out all the great resources here at reefcentral.com read the post about cycling the tank and even ask some questions. I can tell you that you are going to tick off alot of people here once they read that you used a live animal to help cycle the tank. There are better ways and more humane ways of doing so. If the tank doesnt seem to start a cycle on its own you can add a piece of shrimp and let that decay to start the cycle or "ghost feed" but using that poor little chromis is just wrong. Dont mean to sound like a jerk but it was the wrong thing to do. Adding a fish to cycle the tank will almost always end up with dead fishy

I fully agree--do not use fish to cycle your tank

Let me guess who told you to do it --could it be the LFS

tbundy if you feel like a jerk stating it then there are heck of alot more jerks on this site that feel the same way you do

el Deutche · 03/16/2008, 04:33 AM

When I started my 55, I ghost fed and it worked for me. I've heard alot of ppl using the piece of shrimp.

Chris2500DK · 03/16/2008, 04:50 AM

Basicly it doesn't matter much if the food passes through a fish or not, you just need to get nutrients in the tank to break down. Making a fish suffer through the ammonia and nitrites is just cruel.

new2scene · 03/16/2008, 08:26 AM

I bought 3 chromis about six months ago and the other two picked it off and then same thing happened with the second one. I noticed a bit of his tail had been eaten and he was hanging around the bottom and eventually died. Now I have the Alfa by himself and he seems quite happy that way!

Aquarist007 · 03/16/2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by new2scene
I bought 3 chromis about six months ago and the other two picked it off and then same thing happened with the second one. I noticed a bit of his tail had been eaten and he was hanging around the bottom and eventually died. Now I have the Alfa by himself and he seems quite happy that way!

I have tried numerous times to get a school of 5 chromies---they just keep hammering at each other like you have pointed out.
I also had a really good size chromie once and came home to find his tail eaten right off----I blamed the coral banded shrimp for that one.

madtek580 · 03/16/2008, 09:54 AM

Chromis will pick at each other to death unless the have a more aggressive fish in the tank with them

tbundy · 03/16/2008, 11:53 AM

my step dad when to a LFS and saw a tank with 15 of them in it. he loved how they schooled so he told the guy he wants them all. 13 are left.. one lost on the trip home and the other due to the vortec powerhead. they are awesome fish. There is 4 doors on the hood and they know which door is opened.

180large · 03/16/2008, 12:00 PM

Every time i buy these fish in groups of more than 2 same thing. The 2 strongest survive and the rest, well you know

03/15/2008, 08:18 PM	#1
uglyryder Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 294	green chromis missing so i got one green chromis to help cycle my tank, ever since i put him in the tank he was very shy, he wouldn't eat if i was in the in room, he always stated at the back of the tank behind the heater or skimmer. he has been in there for 3 days now. but i come home from work and i cant seem to find him anywhere. i havent moved any rocks but ive looked everywhere i could see. do these guys jump?? Jon

03/15/2008, 08:26 PM	#2
amythist2486 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: streamwood Posts: 7	When I cycled my tank I put 6 in and a week later I only had five. I moved everything around in my tank and still could not find him. Most likely he died in the rock work. I would definately recommend buying a few more than you need though. My tank cycled almost a week faster than normal but I also added some sand from a friends tank that he had set up for a couple of years. __________________ Crystal:fish2: Current Tank Info: 46 gallons nothing set up yet just got it.

03/16/2008, 08:26 AM	#12
new2scene Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 228	I bought 3 chromis about six months ago and the other two picked it off and then same thing happened with the second one. I noticed a bit of his tail had been eaten and he was hanging around the bottom and eventually died. Now I have the Alfa by himself and he seems quite happy that way! __________________ 45 g 100g rated Skimmer 30lbs argonite 50 fiji LR Coralife 2x96, 10000k 200W heater 2 MJ 1200 Current Tank Info: 45 gallon saltwater livestock- 5 Hermits, 1 Camel Shrimp, 3 Astrea snails, 2 Nassarius, Yellow Wrasse, Anthia, Orange spotted Goby, Percula Clown, 1 Chromis psycodelic dragonet

03/15/2008, 08:29 PM	#3
uglyryder Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 294	i just bought 2 more and im acclimating them now, i dont have much LR, but what i do have i got from a friends tank that has been running for many years he also gave me a cup or 2 of his sand.

03/15/2008, 08:30 PM	#4
tbundy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: wilkes-barre PA Posts: 197	look around on the floor and then move the rock around. once you find him take him out... wait a good 4 to 5 weeks for the tank to cycle. in the mean time check out all the great resources here at reefcentral.com read the post about cycling the tank and even ask some questions. I can tell you that you are going to tick off alot of people here once they read that you used a live animal to help cycle the tank. There are better ways and more humane ways of doing so. If the tank doesnt seem to start a cycle on its own you can add a piece of shrimp and let that decay to start the cycle or "ghost feed" but using that poor little chromis is just wrong. Dont mean to sound like a jerk but it was the wrong thing to do. Adding a fish to cycle the tank will almost always end up with dead fishy

03/15/2008, 08:34 PM	#5
uglyryder Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 294	you make a good point, but thats what i was told to do. the way i understood it was that damsels as well as chromis could withstand the changes through the cycle. thats the only reason i did.

03/15/2008, 08:37 PM	#6
LostinTime Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kannapolis NC Posts: 91	Did you check the overflow if you have one?

03/15/2008, 09:33 PM	#7
LoganTidwell Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 25	chromis dont do well solitary...usually need to be in groups of 3 or more to feel safe and secure...i just put 3 into my new 55 i started and they look like kids on a playground in front of the powerheads

03/15/2008, 09:45 PM	#8
tbundy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: wilkes-barre PA Posts: 197	Yes chromis aswell as damsels are very hardy fish but they do suffer when the water perameters are off. the high ammonia with burn the gills making it difficult to breath. it is a practice that has been in the hobby forever but there are less cruel was to starting the cycle

03/16/2008, 04:33 AM	#10
el Deutche Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 134	When I started my 55, I ghost fed and it worked for me. I've heard alot of ppl using the piece of shrimp.

03/16/2008, 04:50 AM	#11
Chris2500DK Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 171	Basicly it doesn't matter much if the food passes through a fish or not, you just need to get nutrients in the tank to break down. Making a fish suffer through the ammonia and nitrites is just cruel.

03/16/2008, 09:54 AM	#14
madtek580 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Navarre, FL Posts: 61	Chromis will pick at each other to death unless the have a more aggressive fish in the tank with them

03/16/2008, 11:53 AM	#15
tbundy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: wilkes-barre PA Posts: 197	my step dad when to a LFS and saw a tank with 15 of them in it. he loved how they schooled so he told the guy he wants them all. 13 are left.. one lost on the trip home and the other due to the vortec powerhead. they are awesome fish. There is 4 doors on the hood and they know which door is opened.

03/16/2008, 12:00 PM	#16
180large Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: massachusetts Posts: 135	Every time i buy these fish in groups of more than 2 same thing. The 2 strongest survive and the rest, well you know