GSM with a Blk/White

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 12:52 PM

I posted up the 'story' behind this guy in the Hybrid Clown Exp Thread (Clown&Nem Forum)

Aint he a beauty? haha. He hosted in about 5 minutes!

I've wanted one for quite some time. The only thing I'm worried about is, if it's a female, and my blk/white is a female, will they fight to the death? Do the GSM change sexes like other clowns?

So far, it hasn't been bad

All opinions welcome

Oh, the black/white is bigger than the GSM, and I'm assuming that the blk/white is a female

Toddrtrex · 04/17/2008, 12:56 PM

Once they ( all clowns ) turn female, there is no going back. So, if they are both female, I don't see good things coming.

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 01:00 PM

I read that Maroon males appear more bright red. If this is the case, it's prob a female cuz the one next to it in the FS was really bright red, but I liked this one better.

Dang, I've had my blk/white for a year and a half. I really don't want to give her up. Do you think the BTA will help?

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 02:42 PM

I just got a text, I guess the blk/white is "all up in that" now

funny, cuz I've had the BTA for over a month now, and she didn't go in there at all

any tips on distinguishing male/female for GSMs?

Toddrtrex · 04/17/2008, 02:43 PM

I had a pair of GSM many years ago, and both of them were the same color -- dark. So I don't believe you can tell male and female from color. Mainly size.

How long has the GSM been by itself?>

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 02:56 PM

Thanks, that's good to hear about the colors.

I just bought the GSM yesterday, the LFS owner told me he was there for 2 weeks. I don't really care for that guys "service" it was a diff FS than I usually go to, so he could be just blowin smoke....anyways,

The blk/white has been "single" since:
I traded out a false perc for the true 1-1/2 weeks ago
The false perc had been in there for at least 8 months, probably longer. I think they were paired up, the false stayed pretty small the whole time

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 03:06 PM

Dangit, my GF just told me Willie (blk/white) has taken over the nem, and wont let the GSM near it...

Also just in: Willie is sucking on the tips...freakin clowns

Toddrtrex · 04/17/2008, 03:16 PM

It is hard enough to pair up clowns, let alone when you are mixing species, and aren't sure if they are both female or not.

Hopefully the B&W is a male, but at this point can't be 100%. All you can do is keep a close eye on them, and hope it works out for the best.

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 03:28 PM

I'm almost positive the B&W is female due to her size, compared to the small false perc that was in there.

I guess I'm just hoping the GSM is a male, otherwise I may need to "donate" another clown

You think a second nem on the other side would help if they DO start fighting?

Thanks for the help

GSMguy · 04/17/2008, 04:22 PM

the problem is the maroon should always be the female when mixing maroons with more peaceful clowns.

the chances that the maroon will become submissive to the ocellaris are slim.

time will tell

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 04:26 PM

Thanks, I was wondering when you would reply! haha

I just got off the phone with my LFS (the good one)
They've got two BTAs, one rose, but I'm not ready to pay $80 for a small rose.

I'm considering getting a second BTA for the other side...
A nem/clown combo on both sides of my tank might be cool
This may only delay the inevitable tho...

GSMguy · 04/17/2008, 04:57 PM

i would put the anemones next to each other to make them feel like they have a large home together splitting up the anemones could cause the maroon to break pairing and go wait on the other side of the tank for a more suitable mate.

sk8rreefgeek · 04/17/2008, 05:06 PM

So you think it's possible, if the maroon is a male, that they could pair up?

04/17/2008, 12:52 PM	#1
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	GSM with a Blk/White I posted up the 'story' behind this guy in the Hybrid Clown Exp Thread (Clown&Nem Forum) Aint he a beauty? haha. He hosted in about 5 minutes! I've wanted one for quite some time. The only thing I'm worried about is, if it's a female, and my blk/white is a female, will they fight to the death? Do the GSM change sexes like other clowns? So far, it hasn't been bad All opinions welcome Oh, the black/white is bigger than the GSM, and I'm assuming that the blk/white is a female __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg

04/17/2008, 12:56 PM	#2
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	Once they ( all clowns ) turn female, there is no going back. So, if they are both female, I don't see good things coming. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

04/17/2008, 01:00 PM	#3
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	I read that Maroon males appear more bright red. If this is the case, it's prob a female cuz the one next to it in the FS was really bright red, but I liked this one better. Dang, I've had my blk/white for a year and a half. I really don't want to give her up. Do you think the BTA will help? __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg

04/17/2008, 02:42 PM	#4
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	I just got a text, I guess the blk/white is "all up in that" now funny, cuz I've had the BTA for over a month now, and she didn't go in there at all any tips on distinguishing male/female for GSMs? __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg Last edited by sk8rreefgeek; 04/17/2008 at 02:52 PM.

04/17/2008, 02:43 PM	#5
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	I had a pair of GSM many years ago, and both of them were the same color -- dark. So I don't believe you can tell male and female from color. Mainly size. How long has the GSM been by itself?> __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

04/17/2008, 02:56 PM	#6
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	Thanks, that's good to hear about the colors. I just bought the GSM yesterday, the LFS owner told me he was there for 2 weeks. I don't really care for that guys "service" it was a diff FS than I usually go to, so he could be just blowin smoke....anyways, The blk/white has been "single" since: I traded out a false perc for the true 1-1/2 weeks ago The false perc had been in there for at least 8 months, probably longer. I think they were paired up, the false stayed pretty small the whole time __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg

04/17/2008, 03:06 PM	#7
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	Dangit, my GF just told me Willie (blk/white) has taken over the nem, and wont let the GSM near it... Also just in: Willie is sucking on the tips...freakin clowns __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg Last edited by sk8rreefgeek; 04/17/2008 at 03:12 PM.

04/17/2008, 03:16 PM	#8
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	It is hard enough to pair up clowns, let alone when you are mixing species, and aren't sure if they are both female or not. Hopefully the B&W is a male, but at this point can't be 100%. All you can do is keep a close eye on them, and hope it works out for the best. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

04/17/2008, 03:28 PM	#9
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	I'm almost positive the B&W is female due to her size, compared to the small false perc that was in there. I guess I'm just hoping the GSM is a male, otherwise I may need to "donate" another clown You think a second nem on the other side would help if they DO start fighting? Thanks for the help __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg

04/17/2008, 04:22 PM	#10
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	the problem is the maroon should always be the female when mixing maroons with more peaceful clowns. the chances that the maroon will become submissive to the ocellaris are slim. time will tell __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

04/17/2008, 04:26 PM	#11
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	Thanks, I was wondering when you would reply! haha I just got off the phone with my LFS (the good one) They've got two BTAs, one rose, but I'm not ready to pay $80 for a small rose. I'm considering getting a second BTA for the other side... A nem/clown combo on both sides of my tank might be cool This may only delay the inevitable tho... __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg

04/17/2008, 04:57 PM	#12
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	i would put the anemones next to each other to make them feel like they have a large home together splitting up the anemones could cause the maroon to break pairing and go wait on the other side of the tank for a more suitable mate. __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

04/17/2008, 05:06 PM	#13
sk8rreefgeek Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 1,352	So you think it's possible, if the maroon is a male, that they could pair up? __________________ It's time for operation crazy-plan Current Tank Info: Drilled 55g, 14g sump, coralife 125 SS: mated pair of b&w misbar clowns, ywg