My tangs have head & lateral line erosion disease

Drullexx · 05/27/2008, 12:45 AM

Hi

I've had my salt water tank since April 1rst 2007. I added the blue tang April 23rd 2007. (it cycled for 4-6 weeks before this)

Added the yellow tang, April 27th 2007 (no pic from then).

Here's what they look like today;

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[IMG]http://i28.*******.com/xauckw.jpg[/IMG]

(the flash on my camera pretty much washes out all the color of the yellow tang)

So, I'm pretty sure they've got HLLE. I went to the local salt water aquarium store in town and he said from what I told him, it's a nutrition problem (as well as a friend of mine online, whom I consider an expert, said the same thing; hence my going to the store).

Up until then, I'd been feeding them flakes/pellets and the occasional blood worms (for the other fish, a puffer, whom has since mysteriously died). I purchased a bunch of green algae sheets, and a bottle of this stuff

ECO Fish Solution
http://www.ecosystemaquarium.com/pro..._solutions.cfm

I've been using it almost daily, and feeding them more often. Also purchased some of this today.

They've also been eating Ocean Nutrition Foruma Two Marine Pellet's since I first got them.

Also, some other pellets for marine fish, which contain krill (sparsely).

My question is, what else can I do to help them?

I keep the salinity at around 1.022 - 1.025. I checked my levels tonight, and it's at:

pH: 8.0 - 8.4
Ammonia: very low, almost non-existant (I didn't save the exact number :<)
Nitrites: 0.3 - 0.8
Nitrates: 10 - 15

I've only got a testing kit for fresh water ponds, so it's not that exact. Also, is it safe to assume that the kit, even designed for fresh water ponds, will still be fine for salt water? I don't know if the salt would affect the results enough to make it useless.

Anywho, any suggestions?

Thanks!

Txcowboy22 · 05/27/2008, 10:24 AM

what size tank do you have? Also this may be an electrical problem. Stray voltage can cause this too.

petsarenice · 05/27/2008, 10:32 AM

This is notorious in tangs. It is usually a sign of malnutrition. I typically get a hold of 6 different types of frozen food and make sure they have a varied diet. Also make sure they always have something to graze on. The best I have found for that is making sure the tangs always have sushinori (roasted seaweed). If you soak the seaweed in selcon, I've seen tangs come back from some pretty bad deterioration. Good luck!

ginger7286 · 05/31/2008, 08:49 AM

Get some saltwater test kits. The colors from fresh to salt are different and the readings could inaccurate. If your nitrates are 10-15 I would perform a water change. Try feeding the Broccolli on a clip. You can soak that in Selcon too. I use frozen brocc. and hang it by the clip. My tang and blennies love it, they tear it up. It is just another thought to provide them a variety. Good Luck

cpage3 · 05/31/2008, 09:38 AM

I second the brocolli, I took in two tangs with severe hlle and the hippos blue is already starting to come back after about a week of a constant supply of brocolli. Also, peeled up carrots Ive heard work too

Chris

Steven Pro · 06/01/2008, 07:44 AM

See here http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-06/sp/index.php

isakshu · 06/02/2008, 07:55 AM

I'm dealing with some HLLE with a couple tangs I just "inherited" and want to try to get them better ASAP. How exactly does one go about serving brocoli? Are people just putting raw stems in the water and attaching to a clip? Or does it have to be steamed? Maybe cooked with a white wine sauce ?

Any additional info would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance -

Percula9 · 06/02/2008, 05:27 PM

I would try Nori seaweed. You can get it at any Japanese market.

05/27/2008, 12:45 AM	#1
Drullexx Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1	My tangs have head & lateral line erosion disease Hi I've had my salt water tank since April 1rst 2007. I added the blue tang April 23rd 2007. (it cycled for 4-6 weeks before this) Added the yellow tang, April 27th 2007 (no pic from then). Here's what they look like today; [IMG]http://i26.*****.com/4utanb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i28.***.com/nzf7gz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i28.*****.com/xauckw.jpg[/IMG] (the flash on my camera pretty much washes out all the color of the yellow tang) So, I'm pretty sure they've got HLLE. I went to the local salt water aquarium store in town and he said from what I told him, it's a nutrition problem (as well as a friend of mine online, whom I consider an expert, said the same thing; hence my going to the store). Up until then, I'd been feeding them flakes/pellets and the occasional blood worms (for the other fish, a puffer, whom has since mysteriously died). I purchased a bunch of green algae sheets, and a bottle of this stuff ECO Fish Solution http://www.ecosystemaquarium.com/pro..._solutions.cfm I've been using it almost daily, and feeding them more often. Also purchased some of this today. They've also been eating Ocean Nutrition Foruma Two Marine Pellet's since I first got them. Also, some other pellets for marine fish, which contain krill (sparsely). My question is, what else can I do to help them? I keep the salinity at around 1.022 - 1.025. I checked my levels tonight, and it's at: pH: 8.0 - 8.4 Ammonia: very low, almost non-existant (I didn't save the exact number :<) Nitrites: 0.3 - 0.8 Nitrates: 10 - 15 I've only got a testing kit for fresh water ponds, so it's not that exact. Also, is it safe to assume that the kit, even designed for fresh water ponds, will still be fine for salt water? I don't know if the salt would affect the results enough to make it useless. Anywho, any suggestions? Thanks!

05/31/2008, 08:49 AM	#4
ginger7286 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lake Worth, Florida Posts: 728	Get some saltwater test kits. The colors from fresh to salt are different and the readings could inaccurate. If your nitrates are 10-15 I would perform a water change. Try feeding the Broccolli on a clip. You can soak that in Selcon too. I use frozen brocc. and hang it by the clip. My tang and blennies love it, they tear it up. It is just another thought to provide them a variety. Good Luck __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways totally worn out shouting "Holy crap...what a ride!" Current Tank Info: 125 Reef Tank, Precision Marine equipment with a live rock/sand filtration. 30G. Nano with 2 percs and a beautiful little Flaming Prawn Goby.

05/31/2008, 09:38 AM	#5
cpage3 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lancaster, New York Posts: 414	I second the brocolli, I took in two tangs with severe hlle and the hippos blue is already starting to come back after about a week of a constant supply of brocolli. Also, peeled up carrots Ive heard work too Chris __________________ ~CAP~ Current Tank Info: 55 reef gallon plumbed into a 30 SPS, as well a 29 aquapod

06/01/2008, 07:44 AM	#6
Steven Pro Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 9,376	See here http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-06/sp/index.php __________________ Steven Pro, yep that is my real name. Current Tank Info: Twelve 600 gallon tubs located in a greenhouse

05/27/2008, 10:24 AM	#2
Txcowboy22 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: long beach Posts: 2,098	what size tank do you have? Also this may be an electrical problem. Stray voltage can cause this too.

05/27/2008, 10:32 AM	#3
petsarenice Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 57	This is notorious in tangs. It is usually a sign of malnutrition. I typically get a hold of 6 different types of frozen food and make sure they have a varied diet. Also make sure they always have something to graze on. The best I have found for that is making sure the tangs always have sushinori (roasted seaweed). If you soak the seaweed in selcon, I've seen tangs come back from some pretty bad deterioration. Good luck!

06/02/2008, 07:55 AM	#7
isakshu Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2	I'm dealing with some HLLE with a couple tangs I just "inherited" and want to try to get them better ASAP. How exactly does one go about serving brocoli? Are people just putting raw stems in the water and attaching to a clip? Or does it have to be steamed? Maybe cooked with a white wine sauce ? Any additional info would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance -

06/02/2008, 05:27 PM	#8
Percula9 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orange County CA Posts: 3,819	I would try Nori seaweed. You can get it at any Japanese market.