Plumbing HEEELLLPP

[Gondore]

Alright, so I finished up all my plumbing this evening and man is it loud. I believe I have two main problems, but I wanted to get a few other people's opinion before I actually start changing anything.

1. I think the way I plumbed my pvc into my fug was just stupid. Here are two images:





The thing is bubbling like crazy and making a ton of noise in the process. Should I remove the 45 degree fitting? Please help...

[buck50bmg]

Make the drain larger. That way it will lower th velocity= less noise

[Gondore]

How exactly do I do that?

[redvicki]

Doesn't look right to me, but I'm new at this too. There are several post on here that show how to plumb a fuge.

[frank2926]

did you build a durso? what kind of overflow are you using.

http://www.dursostandpipes.com/

[Gondore]

Yes, the tank came with an overflow kit that included a durso.

[Bruno3047]

If that's your return pump hard-plumbed in to the return pipe, I would install a short length of flexible tubing near the pump to cut down on the vibration

[Gondore]

I don't think I explained the problem well. My plumbing works as follows. The durso overflow goes down into a T, one section of the T goes to the protein skimmer and the other goes to the fug. This is controlled via a ball valve. The portion going to my fug is shown above. Big air bubbles are coming out of the end of that pipe and making a LOT of noise. I am wondering what to do. I think I should maybe cut the pvc right above the water so the air can disperse. Does that make more sense?

[RocketEngineer]

Gondore,

You do need an area where the bubbles can disperse.

http://home.nc.rr.com/stockmanreef/reverse_durso.htm

Please take especial note of the text at the bottom where it describes increasing the diameter of the plumbing.

HTH

[Gondore]

Hmm...that's an interesting idea. For some reason the picture on that website doesn't load. Do you know where I can find another picture.

[wiscsaltwater]

i had the same problem and i put a ball valve on the overflow line and turned it just slightly to slow the incoming water velocity and it worked like a charm.

[Gondore]

I have a ball valve on the overflow already only it controls the flow between the skimmer and the fug.

[jejton]

Two comments:
1.) The real stupid thing that I see is that you have an outlet directly behind a tank, very close to the sump, without a GFCI on it. If you cant get one hardwired into the circuit then buy a plug in one. If you have one on another outlet on that same circuit, then forgive this comment.

2.) I dont know if this will solve your noise problem so much but it will help with the bubbles going into your fuge - a filter sock. I put one on the end of my drain ( I have a similar setup to yours - one drain splitting to the fuge and the skimmer ) and it cut back on the bubbles and splashing but my drain was above the water level.

[Gondore]

jejton - Excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a GFCI?

[OceanSpray]

I am going to start building my sump this weekend for my new 90 setup.
That reverse durso looks like the ticket. I think it will work, and I'm going to give it a try.
As long as the air can escape it should work. Thanks for posting it! I don't think the plumbing was stupid.
I was going to do it the same way. Until you do something once, its hard to get a feel for it.

[Gondore]

Here are some pictures:

[yetiman]

I have been having the same isues with my system. The reverse durso seems like the ticket but I could not get the pictures to download from the web site listed above. Does anybody have pictures of the reverse duso. Thanks

[d_carloo]

What is a GFI?

A GFI, or ground fault circuit interrupter, is an automatic device that offers personal protection against electrical shock. They are installed in areas where known electrical shock hazards exist... outdoor outlets and fixtures, swimming pools, saunas and hot tubs, outlets in kitchens, basements, bathrooms, and garages. Wherever there is the potential for contact between a person and an electrical appliance in or near moisture, water, or water pipes, a GFI should be protecting the circuit... and you!

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http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/i...al/infgfi.html

[d_carloo]

and use a filter sack that will help with the bubbling

[corivus]

well I can take a picture of my reverse durso later on tonight to give you an idea of how it works,

equipment
2 T's
1 90 elbow
1 cap

I have 1" all the way through on my tank. you'll connect the first t to your main line on the end, then connect the 90 elbow to the t with a cap on the end and then the other t will be connected to the other end of your t with two outputs going each way. You'll also need to drill some holes in the cap, or you can put a little hose line through the top and glue it, I have mine with holes drilled.

so kinda like this

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can't do it so well with symbols but hope that helps till I get pictures. it's made the noise in my sump non exsistant the second I put it on. very useful.

[Gondore]

After taking a bit more time to try and identify where the most noise was coming from, I found it is my no-siphon hole on the return. The hole is spraying out water and making all kinds of noise. Do any of you have an example of where these holes should exist so they run silently? When I plug this hole with my finger I get very little noise (still a little from the overflow part in the fug but I think I can fix that).

[corivus]

for some odd reason it does load in firefox but here's the image for the reverse durso.



kinda hard to see because of the color but thats it