Dead cleaner shimp

vikusik · 06/24/2008, 11:08 PM

Bought a cleaner shrimp today which lasted about an hour in my tank

. I am not sure what got him!? I have 2 tangs, 2 damsels, and 2 clowns on top of a bunch of snails and 2 hermit crabs. Could any of the above killed it???

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 12:09 AM

The damsels could be the culprits. What kind are they? Same thing with the clowns. If the clowns are larger ones like Maroon or Tomato clowns they could have killed your shrimp. Are you sure he's dead? Did you find a body or did he just dissapear?

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 12:18 AM

I found the body and my nassarius snails are all over him! the damsels that I have are those black ones with white spots on them. One of the clowns is a maroon clown but he is small and does not appear to be very agressive towards other fish?

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 12:21 AM

So you have dominoe damsels. They are extremely aggressive when they get big. How big are they now? I doubt it was the maroon clown if he is small. Also, how did you go about acclimating the shrimp? They are very sensitive to big changes in water chemistry.

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 12:25 AM

I used drip acclimation method. Yes, the damn dominoes! They are about inch and a half big (from mouth to tail that is). I am planning to build a spear so I can take them out!

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 12:29 AM

Haha, that sounds funny! By the way, what kind of tangs do you have?

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 12:30 AM

Oh yeah, those dominoes could grow into 5 inch plus monsters, that even attack their owners, so I'd get rid of them while they are young and won't take your fingers off! lol

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 12:32 AM

AT this point, using a spear seems like the last option since I have been trying to catch them for about a month now!!!

I have a hippo and a sailfin.

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 12:36 AM

Damsels can be a pain. Have you tried using a trap yet? I have a sailfin tang and he just has the greatest personality.

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 12:41 AM

I love my sailfin! I forgot to mention that I also have a foxface. My sailfin and foxface are two best frineds! they swim together, they eat together - don't think they sleep together!

No I have not tried the trap. I have heard about the traps but not sure how they will work as far as catching the right fish?

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 12:44 AM

Yeah, usually you end up catching the wrong fish a few times, especially when they discover that there is food in there. The only other option is to remove the rocks from your tank in order to catch the damsels.

What are the dimensions on a 165 gallon tank?

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 12:47 AM

The tank is 60" long, 24" wide, and 28" tall. I have a lot of rock and a "reef wall" so taking the rock out is pretty much out of the question.

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 12:50 AM

I have never had the guts to take all of my rock out to catch a fish either. Luckilly the one fish that I ever have to catch, my sailfin tang who has had several problems with Amyloodinium since I got him, swims right up to the net when I put it in my tank. I guess he thinks it's seaweed!

kau_cinta_ku · 06/25/2008, 02:22 AM

how long did you acclimate for? inverts take longer than fish.

CassiusClay · 06/25/2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by IFbettas
Oh yeah, those dominoes could grow into 5 inch plus monsters, that even attack their owners, so I'd get rid of them while they are young and won't take your fingers off! lol

i hate damsels.......... had one just like that awhile ago. hand goes into tank damsel non-stop beats on it till i remove it.he drew blood a couple of times.i literally had to tear my whole system down to get him out.

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 10:34 AM

Sam - I was acclimating him for about 30 minutes. Was that not long enough?

IFbettas - that's pretty amazing!!

kudora · 06/25/2008, 10:40 AM

i had the same problem a couple of weeks ago, nothing attacked my shrimp, i acclimated for an hour and they still died.

cdcq12 · 06/25/2008, 11:01 AM

I had two damsels i nmy tank once and had to take all of the rock out to chase them around. It was a real pain, but I'm happy they're gone now because they were going after my clownfish and I was NOT happy with that.

kau_cinta_ku · 06/25/2008, 01:13 PM

when it comes to inverts, I like to acculimate them for 1.5-2 hours as they are more sensitive than fish.

I am not saying thats what killed it, but just something to keep in mind

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 10:35 PM

I bought another one today. Still alive! I acclimated it for about 1.5 hours. The fish are lining up to him waiting to be cleaned!

He is not cleaning them yet but feeling them out with his giant whiskers!

IFbettas · 06/25/2008, 10:37 PM

Thats good to hear! Are the damsels still in the tank?

vikusik · 06/25/2008, 10:55 PM

yes they are! I am planning my next move! he he

parkpark · 06/26/2008, 01:09 AM

aww, are you using that poor shrimp as bait?

vikusik · 06/26/2008, 12:36 PM

good idea but a bit expensive!

moo0o · 06/26/2008, 03:36 PM

trying finding the fish you want at night. it helped me alot when i needed to catch mine when impossible during the day.

06/24/2008, 11:08 PM	#1
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	Dead cleaner shimp Bought a cleaner shrimp today which lasted about an hour in my tank . I am not sure what got him!? I have 2 tangs, 2 damsels, and 2 clowns on top of a bunch of snails and 2 hermit crabs. Could any of the above killed it???

06/25/2008, 12:09 AM	#2
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	The damsels could be the culprits. What kind are they? Same thing with the clowns. If the clowns are larger ones like Maroon or Tomato clowns they could have killed your shrimp. Are you sure he's dead? Did you find a body or did he just dissapear? __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 12:21 AM	#4
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	So you have dominoe damsels. They are extremely aggressive when they get big. How big are they now? I doubt it was the maroon clown if he is small. Also, how did you go about acclimating the shrimp? They are very sensitive to big changes in water chemistry. __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 12:29 AM	#6
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	Haha, that sounds funny! By the way, what kind of tangs do you have? __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 12:30 AM	#7
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	Oh yeah, those dominoes could grow into 5 inch plus monsters, that even attack their owners, so I'd get rid of them while they are young and won't take your fingers off! lol __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 12:18 AM	#3
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	I found the body and my nassarius snails are all over him! the damsels that I have are those black ones with white spots on them. One of the clowns is a maroon clown but he is small and does not appear to be very agressive towards other fish?

06/25/2008, 12:25 AM	#5
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	I used drip acclimation method. Yes, the damn dominoes! They are about inch and a half big (from mouth to tail that is). I am planning to build a spear so I can take them out!

06/25/2008, 12:32 AM	#8
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	AT this point, using a spear seems like the last option since I have been trying to catch them for about a month now!!! I have a hippo and a sailfin.

06/25/2008, 12:36 AM	#9
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	Damsels can be a pain. Have you tried using a trap yet? I have a sailfin tang and he just has the greatest personality. __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 12:41 AM	#10
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	I love my sailfin! I forgot to mention that I also have a foxface. My sailfin and foxface are two best frineds! they swim together, they eat together - don't think they sleep together! No I have not tried the trap. I have heard about the traps but not sure how they will work as far as catching the right fish?

06/25/2008, 12:44 AM	#11
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	Yeah, usually you end up catching the wrong fish a few times, especially when they discover that there is food in there. The only other option is to remove the rocks from your tank in order to catch the damsels. What are the dimensions on a 165 gallon tank? __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 12:47 AM	#12
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	The tank is 60" long, 24" wide, and 28" tall. I have a lot of rock and a "reef wall" so taking the rock out is pretty much out of the question.

06/25/2008, 12:50 AM	#13
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	I have never had the guts to take all of my rock out to catch a fish either. Luckilly the one fish that I ever have to catch, my sailfin tang who has had several problems with Amyloodinium since I got him, swims right up to the net when I put it in my tank. I guess he thinks it's seaweed! __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 02:22 AM	#14
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	how long did you acclimate for? inverts take longer than fish.

06/25/2008, 10:34 AM	#16
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	Sam - I was acclimating him for about 30 minutes. Was that not long enough? IFbettas - that's pretty amazing!!

06/25/2008, 10:40 AM	#17
kudora thread reader Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minot, ND Posts: 1,639	i had the same problem a couple of weeks ago, nothing attacked my shrimp, i acclimated for an hour and they still died.

06/25/2008, 11:01 AM	#18
cdcq12 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Strongsville, OH Posts: 220	I had two damsels i nmy tank once and had to take all of the rock out to chase them around. It was a real pain, but I'm happy they're gone now because they were going after my clownfish and I was NOT happy with that.

06/25/2008, 01:13 PM	#19
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	when it comes to inverts, I like to acculimate them for 1.5-2 hours as they are more sensitive than fish. I am not saying thats what killed it, but just something to keep in mind

06/25/2008, 10:35 PM	#20
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	I bought another one today. Still alive! I acclimated it for about 1.5 hours. The fish are lining up to him waiting to be cleaned! He is not cleaning them yet but feeling them out with his giant whiskers!

06/25/2008, 10:37 PM	#21
IFbettas Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodridge, IL Posts: 1,953	Thats good to hear! Are the damsels still in the tank? __________________ Current Tank Info: 180G SPS Dominant, 75 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 3x250w Reeflux 12k in Lumenbrights, Octo Extreme 250 Skimmer, Lots of flow

06/25/2008, 10:55 PM	#22
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	yes they are! I am planning my next move! he he

06/26/2008, 01:09 AM	#23
parkpark Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bloomington, Indiana Posts: 261	aww, are you using that poor shrimp as bait?

06/26/2008, 12:36 PM	#24
vikusik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 80	good idea but a bit expensive!

06/26/2008, 03:36 PM	#25
moo0o Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SJ,CA Posts: 1,694	trying finding the fish you want at night. it helped me alot when i needed to catch mine when impossible during the day.