sump builds

calli · 07/08/2008, 09:57 PM

I have been looking at some sump design's I have a 40 Gallon Tank (Glass) and I want to make it into a sump.

Where can I find simple guidelines that are reliable? Pictures are a plus.

I have tried the search function here but it never works.

MinnFish · 07/08/2008, 10:08 PM

http://www.melevsreef.com/

Try this site out.

Playa-1 · 07/08/2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by calli
I have been looking at some sump design's I have a 40 Gallon Tank (Glass) and I want to make it into a sump.

Where can I find simple guidelines that are reliable? Pictures are a plus.

I have tried the search function here but it never works.

+1
I don't think there much info regarding the glass sump but plenty of information on the basic designs. When using glass it is best to use glass baffles and use reef safe silicone to secure them into place.

DevilBoy · 07/08/2008, 11:05 PM

here is a sketch of mine tho it isnt made out of glass.

and now installed

calli · 07/09/2008, 12:30 AM

another question... I just thought of somthing.. there is a company down the road that does plastic welding.. would that be ok to assemble the sump if I were to have one made from acrylic?

or is that even worth it?

Playa-1 · 07/09/2008, 07:08 AM

I'm sure they could make you a nice sump. It will likely be a pricey way to go.

indydog1 · 07/09/2008, 07:19 AM

1/4 inch glass for the baffles and use 100% silicone. not totally difficult, and it doesn't have to look pretty, just functional.

brad2048 · 07/09/2008, 08:55 AM

make sure your sides arent tempered when you drill them!

or just make it all out of acrylic (much easier IMO)

calli · 07/09/2008, 10:30 AM

See right now I am thinking I might just wait on the sump and get a drilled tank later.. I don't want to drill the tank I have because I am not sure if the glass is tempered.. and I don't wanna find out.

The other big thing is that I DON'T WANNA CHEAP OUT. So I might just keep going with my current setup...

I have 2 Emperor 400's and put 3 power heads in the tank and run a 9010 skimmer.. also I have a canister filter with just water running through it for flow.. I might trade it in for an extra power head. I was going to put chemical filtration in the canister but I can still put that in the bio wheels.

How does that sound to you guys..??? and plan for a Sump when I get a Drilled tank. There is no sence spending money on a overflow box and setup when I can put that money towards a drilled tank.

Playa-1 · 07/09/2008, 10:50 AM

That's a tough call. If you have a 90 that you like then it wouldn't be that much trouble to drill the back and slap in an overflow box. You get yourself a few baffles cut and polished for the 40gal and your almost set. It's doubtful that the back of the tank is tempered.
But if that's out of your comfort zone then don't do it. Save up your pennies and buy one that already drilled. You could always use a good hang-on style overflow box in the mean time.

calli · 07/09/2008, 10:57 AM

Well see I have heard some bad things about those :-D if the siphon quits then what? is there some sort of fail safe one? I do like the water but I don't really feel like swimming in my basment.

Playa-1 · 07/09/2008, 03:43 PM

They do have some that a safer then other by design but they all require regular attention. You can't get lazy when you have equipment like that

Tswifty · 07/09/2008, 05:40 PM

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...5&pagenumber=7

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1417422

Here are a few of mine:

Refugium & Return (HOB Skimmer)

Sump/Fuge (In-Sump Skimmer)

Sump & Tote Refugium

Tswifty · 07/09/2008, 05:49 PM

and here are some drawings I've made over time:

07/08/2008, 09:57 PM	#1
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	sump builds I have been looking at some sump design's I have a 40 Gallon Tank (Glass) and I want to make it into a sump. Where can I find simple guidelines that are reliable? Pictures are a plus. I have tried the search function here but it never works.

07/08/2008, 10:08 PM	#2
MinnFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Home of 10,000 lakes Posts: 917	http://www.melevsreef.com/ Try this site out. __________________ 33G Long, 4x54 watt T5, Tunze 6025, Tunze Osmolator ATO, Tunze Streamfilter 3163 Posts about moving an oversized fish to a bigger tank. Is like hearing every stripper is just working to pay for colle

07/09/2008, 07:19 AM	#7
indydog1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: round lake, il Posts: 1,590	1/4 inch glass for the baffles and use 100% silicone. not totally difficult, and it doesn't have to look pretty, just functional. __________________ Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself Current Tank Info: 210 gal

07/09/2008, 10:50 AM	#10
Playa-1 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 7,497	That's a tough call. If you have a 90 that you like then it wouldn't be that much trouble to drill the back and slap in an overflow box. You get yourself a few baffles cut and polished for the 40gal and your almost set. It's doubtful that the back of the tank is tempered. But if that's out of your comfort zone then don't do it. Save up your pennies and buy one that already drilled. You could always use a good hang-on style overflow box in the mean time. Last edited by Playa-1; 07/09/2008 at 10:57 AM.

07/09/2008, 05:40 PM	#13
Tswifty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PA Posts: 14,022	http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...5&pagenumber=7 http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1417422 Here are a few of mine: Refugium & Return (HOB Skimmer) Sump/Fuge (In-Sump Skimmer) Sump & Tote Refugium __________________ "Enough light? Heck I could go barebottom and grow SPS in the stand!" - DiscoReefRover Last edited by Tswifty; 07/09/2008 at 05:45 PM.

07/08/2008, 11:05 PM	#4
DevilBoy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wooster, Ohio Posts: 1,724	here is a sketch of mine tho it isnt made out of glass. and now installed

07/09/2008, 12:30 AM	#5
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	another question... I just thought of somthing.. there is a company down the road that does plastic welding.. would that be ok to assemble the sump if I were to have one made from acrylic? or is that even worth it?

07/09/2008, 07:08 AM	#6
Playa-1 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 7,497	I'm sure they could make you a nice sump. It will likely be a pricey way to go.

07/09/2008, 08:55 AM	#8
brad2048 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: st. petersburg, fl Posts: 233	make sure your sides arent tempered when you drill them! or just make it all out of acrylic (much easier IMO)

07/09/2008, 10:30 AM	#9
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	See right now I am thinking I might just wait on the sump and get a drilled tank later.. I don't want to drill the tank I have because I am not sure if the glass is tempered.. and I don't wanna find out. The other big thing is that I DON'T WANNA CHEAP OUT. So I might just keep going with my current setup... I have 2 Emperor 400's and put 3 power heads in the tank and run a 9010 skimmer.. also I have a canister filter with just water running through it for flow.. I might trade it in for an extra power head. I was going to put chemical filtration in the canister but I can still put that in the bio wheels. How does that sound to you guys..??? and plan for a Sump when I get a Drilled tank. There is no sence spending money on a overflow box and setup when I can put that money towards a drilled tank.

07/09/2008, 10:57 AM	#11
calli Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 512	Well see I have heard some bad things about those :-D if the siphon quits then what? is there some sort of fail safe one? I do like the water but I don't really feel like swimming in my basment.

07/09/2008, 03:43 PM	#12
Playa-1 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 7,497	They do have some that a safer then other by design but they all require regular attention. You can't get lazy when you have equipment like that

07/09/2008, 05:49 PM	#14
Tswifty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PA Posts: 14,022	and here are some drawings I've made over time: