sump

Go29 · 07/17/2008, 01:44 PM

OK so after keeping my tank for the last 6 years i have become tired of looking at my heater and skimmer ( tunze 9005) as both things sit in my 29 gal tank, along with 3 koralias. Now i am only 17 and my parents wont let the tank be drilled as they dont want me to take it down to do so, and they want to amke sure that whatever i do wont overflow if the power would go out ( like a siphon) so with this in mind is ther ANY possible way i can have a sump..... LIke cant i pump water down to a small tank, then back up to the display with a pump rated a little higher then the one goin down???? thanx everyone

Go29 · 07/17/2008, 05:12 PM

So is there really no way to do this..... i have a very mature system with alot of sps a big rbta picasso clowns sunburst anthias and many other thigns like clams so i dont and am not allowed ( being in highschool sucks

) to drill the tank so im looking for a safe alternative. Give me your ideas as long as it wont flood if the power goes out it would WORK>>>>>> thanx for your time

firemancorbin · 07/17/2008, 05:23 PM

Ya can get a hang on over flow box for the back of the tank I had one on our 72 gallon that ran down under to a rubbermaid container we used for a sump with a trash can in side of it worked really good!!! BUt ya should talk Ma and Pa in to a up grade !!! lol good luck!!!

Go29 · 07/17/2008, 05:34 PM

lol ya ive tried that and i get the "some day when you move out you can have as big of tank as you want"

but ive thought about overflows however i heard that if the power goes out they will still siphon water to the sump so wouldnt it over flow. And then if power is restored do you have to be there to start the siphon back up??? thanx alot

mistermikev · 07/17/2008, 05:39 PM

why not have a small tank above the tank.
use an ordinary pump out of yer tank and that fills the tank above, but remember to drill one tiny whole above the water line in the above tank (on the line in) so that in case the pump dies it doesn't back siphon. section off an area with a hole in the bottom of the above tank... as it overflows into that area it flows out back into the main tank.

or just get a hang on back refuge... you see em on ebay all the time ($50).

Go29 · 07/17/2008, 05:48 PM

Well i dont think a HOB would work as it needs to fit my tunze 9005 which is kinda big, but as far as above tank my display is in my room against a wall so there is nothing to hold a tank up higher than it. Are there any types of liek overflows that wont backsiphon?? ANd also ones that with start working noraml after a power outage????? Thanx

firemancorbin · 07/17/2008, 05:56 PM

Do ya really need the skimmmer?I know lots of people who run reef tanks and don't run skimmers!!!

07/17/2008, 01:44 PM	#1
Go29 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 411	sump OK so after keeping my tank for the last 6 years i have become tired of looking at my heater and skimmer ( tunze 9005) as both things sit in my 29 gal tank, along with 3 koralias. Now i am only 17 and my parents wont let the tank be drilled as they dont want me to take it down to do so, and they want to amke sure that whatever i do wont overflow if the power would go out ( like a siphon) so with this in mind is ther ANY possible way i can have a sump..... LIke cant i pump water down to a small tank, then back up to the display with a pump rated a little higher then the one goin down???? thanx everyone

07/17/2008, 05:23 PM	#3
firemancorbin Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mustang, Oklahoma Posts: 121	Ya can get a hang on over flow box for the back of the tank I had one on our 72 gallon that ran down under to a rubbermaid container we used for a sump with a trash can in side of it worked really good!!! BUt ya should talk Ma and Pa in to a up grade !!! lol good luck!!! __________________ Who needs friends when you have anemones? BUDDY. Current Tank Info: 150 Gallon Reef Ready w/ Porcipine Puffer.30gallon Sump with Refugium.

07/17/2008, 05:39 PM	#5
mistermikev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 790	why not have a small tank above the tank. use an ordinary pump out of yer tank and that fills the tank above, but remember to drill one tiny whole above the water line in the above tank (on the line in) so that in case the pump dies it doesn't back siphon. section off an area with a hole in the bottom of the above tank... as it overflows into that area it flows out back into the main tank. or just get a hang on back refuge... you see em on ebay all the time ($50). __________________ "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production... Too weird to live, and too rare to die." "A drink... for all my friends!" Current Tank Info: 75gal mixed reef + 20gal sump w/ 2 * 175w halides, 2 * 95w vhos, 1* 50w no, led moonlighting, cs220, maxijet 1200s/sureflos, hang on refuge, deep sand bed...

07/17/2008, 05:56 PM	#7
firemancorbin Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mustang, Oklahoma Posts: 121	Do ya really need the skimmmer?I know lots of people who run reef tanks and don't run skimmers!!! __________________ Who needs friends when you have anemones? BUDDY. Current Tank Info: 150 Gallon Reef Ready w/ Porcipine Puffer.30gallon Sump with Refugium.

07/17/2008, 05:12 PM	#2
Go29 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 411	So is there really no way to do this..... i have a very mature system with alot of sps a big rbta picasso clowns sunburst anthias and many other thigns like clams so i dont and am not allowed ( being in highschool sucks ) to drill the tank so im looking for a safe alternative. Give me your ideas as long as it wont flood if the power goes out it would WORK>>>>>> thanx for your time

07/17/2008, 05:34 PM	#4
Go29 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 411	lol ya ive tried that and i get the "some day when you move out you can have as big of tank as you want" but ive thought about overflows however i heard that if the power goes out they will still siphon water to the sump so wouldnt it over flow. And then if power is restored do you have to be there to start the siphon back up??? thanx alot

07/17/2008, 05:48 PM	#6
Go29 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 411	Well i dont think a HOB would work as it needs to fit my tunze 9005 which is kinda big, but as far as above tank my display is in my room against a wall so there is nothing to hold a tank up higher than it. Are there any types of liek overflows that wont backsiphon?? ANd also ones that with start working noraml after a power outage????? Thanx