My new moorish idol and tank mates

agreeive?fish · 08/19/2008, 08:21 AM

Ok i bought a moorish idol from divers den last night.. here is the fish list of my current tanks.. iam asking which fish you WOULD NOT put with the moorish idol.. i will move fish around to accomidate the best situation for the idol i have 3 tanks to move fish around in..a 210g, a 200g (7 footer)and 175g bow front (which would have to be set up while new fish are in qt(75g)

Asfur angel
bicolr angel
coral beauty angel
1/2 black angel
cherb angel

powder blue tang
sailfin tang
purple tang (same order as moorish idol)

gold stripe marron clownfish
lunnar wrasse
scat
orbic bat fish
columbian "shark" (3)

bsagecko · 08/19/2008, 08:44 AM

Just a question but what are you feeding the idol?

i wouldn't put any of the tangs, shark, bat fish, or any large angel....i would also watch the GSM clowns..........

i think the smaller angels, lunar wrasse would be ok..............

basically you want the idol to be the top dog and anything that keeps him from that spot should be removed

i think the 175g would be enough room for the idol

agreeive?fish · 08/19/2008, 08:54 AM

Well at this moment iam not feeding him anything...he/she has not shipped yet..

live aquaria says he is eating flakes, pellets and mysis

my current food on hand include
Flakes
form 1
form 2
prime reef

frozen include
mysis
b/f-angel formula
brine (as treat)
raw table shrimp

algea sheets
red
green
brown

iam gonna call live aquaria today and see EXACTLY what they were feeding him ..ie brand , flavor, color ect.. and ill get that today if avaliable local..if not i will order it today

otrlynn · 08/19/2008, 12:40 PM

Are you planning to QT this fish?

sassafrass · 08/19/2008, 01:12 PM

The Lunare wrasse can be quite aggressive also

agreeive?fish · 08/19/2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by otrlynn
Are you planning to QT this fish?

Oh yes he/she will spend at least 8 weeks in a 75g qt...... i set it up this am using live rock from my tanks some dry for a year or more scrubed base rock and i did sprinkle a couple cups of saturate from my tanks on the rocks... also used 25g of tank water and 45g of fresh new saltwater to finish filling the tank

crvz · 08/19/2008, 05:50 PM

have you had these fish for a while? If so you know their temperament, I'd probably just try to keep the idol with the least aggressive of the ones you've got. I'd want to give it the best chance possible to get acclimated.

markandkristen · 08/19/2008, 05:55 PM

i had a moorish idol for a while till i broke down my tank.. he was wonderful. i got him when he was large. so he was able to defend himself.. my biggest eater in my tank...
he ate pellets flakes you name it....
him and my purple got a little fiesty at the beg.. but soon tapered off..

agreeive?fish · 08/19/2008, 06:27 PM

yeap i have had these fish for sometime... the latest addition was 6+ months ago in the tang/angel tank and 3+ months ago in the batfish tank... and i see very very little agression i9n either tank an ocassional chase but thats the extent of it and the chases last less than 10 seconds and never any physical contact

markandkristen · 08/19/2008, 06:37 PM

thats how it was in my tank.. never any major aggression... ... i have to admit gill became my favorite fish.. (my wife picked him out) so i would never admit it in front of her LOL

crvz · 08/19/2008, 08:17 PM

well hopefully the moorish idol will fit right in. good luck. when is it shipping?

Aquarist007 · 08/19/2008, 08:23 PM

Moorish idols will not last long term in your tank unless you can supply them with the food the eat in nature--live sponges--and alot of them

agreeive?fish · 08/20/2008, 03:21 AM

crvz... shipped already should be here wiyhin the next 12 hours

capn... you got any info you could pm me with a bout some live sponge suppliers..

i made a comemntment to provide the best possible envioroment/life for this fish the moment i ordered it so if i have to stand on my head, while feeding him to keep him healthy and happy then ill stand on my head while feeding him live sponge

otrlynn · 08/20/2008, 05:50 AM

I have a recollection that I read that the legendary PaulB kept one until a tank "incident" or something...perhaps I am losing it in my old age, but maybe the capn would remember or you could pm PaulB.

agreeive?fish · 08/20/2008, 06:19 AM

yeah i have read the moorish idol thread all one million pages worth and have it book marked

trueperc · 08/20/2008, 06:55 AM

Can you provide a little more info on the idol, as in what size is he, and how long has the diverden had him?
To note you don't have to constantly feed him sponge and lots of it, but a varity of diet and a lot of food yes. Now I have one for that past three years, I feed him as well as most of my tank mainly different pellets formul 1 formul 2, NLS medium and large, I feed the tank frozen angel food once a week and nori. My idol is also very large and fat. My guys tanks mates include, large french angel, large emperor, majestic, flagfin, achilles tang, powder blue, singapore angel, blue headed wrasse and a cleaner wrasse adn a couple of clowns. To note at one point I did have gold strip maron clowns in there, I only took them out as they where taking up to much territory, but never bothered the idol. There was a large pacific sailfin tang, he was removed as he was the only fish that did not get a long with the idol. This is just my experience and is not meant to be what is said to work all the time as each fish is different.

agreeive?fish · 08/20/2008, 07:43 AM

well he is either 4 1/4 or 4 1/2 inch ( i dont remeber exactly) i forgot to ask how long they had him but i will see if i can find out...i did find out what foods they were feeding him and its the same as i feed my tanks except the mysis was a diffrent brand but i cannot see wher ther would be a big diffrence in mysis.. besides the flakes,pelets and mysis he is used to i also feed the tank nori and b/f- angel formula frozen, marine entree, and emeral mix and i dont have a particular schedgle on the frozen..just which ever one i grab out of the freezer

iam considering putting him in the angel/tang tank... which has the most rockwork/caves/overhangs and has a prety wide open swimming area as well it also has the maroon clown but she is actually pretty mellow for a gsm clown (no mate..never had one in my tank at least)... the moorish idol is aprox the same size as the purple tang i bought at the same time and if all works out i will introduce both of them to the tank at the same time to reduce/spread out the aggression(after qt)... last check they were at fed x facility an hour away (closet one to me)....

agreeive?fish · 08/20/2008, 09:10 AM

on truck for delievery...for 2 hours now..nice day today low 70s and only supposed to top out in mid 70s

Tswifty · 08/20/2008, 09:17 AM

cpony69 · 08/20/2008, 09:45 AM

I have tried to keep many idols and they either get hassled to death or never eat.

agreeive?fish · 08/20/2008, 09:51 AM

well the harrassed to death i dont know yet how thats going to work but i have 3 tanks he could go in 175g 200g or a 210g...

as far as eating i bought it from divers den and it has been eating flakes,pellets, and mysis for 4 weeks ..will he continue once he is in my tanks only he/she knows

agreeive?fish · 08/20/2008, 12:53 PM

they are here...bags floating right now

cpony69 · 08/20/2008, 01:01 PM

Are these tanks reef tanks with corals? You do know Moorish Idols will eat coals? I have seen this first hand.

Quote:

Originally posted by agreeive?fish
i have 3 tanks he could go in 175g 200g or a 210g...

agreeive?fish · 08/20/2008, 01:06 PM

FOWLR tanks

70ss · 08/20/2008, 01:19 PM

Good luck and keep us posted.

08/19/2008, 08:21 AM	#1
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	My new moorish idol and tank mates Ok i bought a moorish idol from divers den last night.. here is the fish list of my current tanks.. iam asking which fish you WOULD NOT put with the moorish idol.. i will move fish around to accomidate the best situation for the idol i have 3 tanks to move fish around in..a 210g, a 200g (7 footer)and 175g bow front (which would have to be set up while new fish are in qt(75g) Asfur angel bicolr angel coral beauty angel 1/2 black angel cherb angel powder blue tang sailfin tang purple tang (same order as moorish idol) gold stripe marron clownfish lunnar wrasse scat orbic bat fish columbian "shark" (3)

08/19/2008, 08:44 AM	#2
bsagecko Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,752	Just a question but what are you feeding the idol? i wouldn't put any of the tangs, shark, bat fish, or any large angel....i would also watch the GSM clowns.......... i think the smaller angels, lunar wrasse would be ok.............. basically you want the idol to be the top dog and anything that keeps him from that spot should be removed i think the 175g would be enough room for the idol __________________ There are three things that will never be believed- the true, the probable, the logical (Steinbeck) Obey little, Resist much Current Tank Info: 24g AIO

08/19/2008, 12:40 PM	#4
otrlynn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chester County PA Posts: 1,508	Are you planning to QT this fish? __________________ Lynn 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, small pond with a few koi. The fish tank is gone.

08/19/2008, 05:50 PM	#7
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	have you had these fish for a while? If so you know their temperament, I'd probably just try to keep the idol with the least aggressive of the ones you've got. I'd want to give it the best chance possible to get acclimated. __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

08/19/2008, 08:17 PM	#11
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	well hopefully the moorish idol will fit right in. good luck. when is it shipping? __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

08/19/2008, 08:54 AM	#3
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	Well at this moment iam not feeding him anything...he/she has not shipped yet.. live aquaria says he is eating flakes, pellets and mysis my current food on hand include Flakes form 1 form 2 prime reef frozen include mysis b/f-angel formula brine (as treat) raw table shrimp algea sheets red green brown iam gonna call live aquaria today and see EXACTLY what they were feeding him ..ie brand , flavor, color ect.. and ill get that today if avaliable local..if not i will order it today

08/19/2008, 01:12 PM	#5
sassafrass Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: capitola ca Posts: 1,729	The Lunare wrasse can be quite aggressive also

08/19/2008, 05:55 PM	#8
markandkristen Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Winterhaven, fl Posts: 4,081	i had a moorish idol for a while till i broke down my tank.. he was wonderful. i got him when he was large. so he was able to defend himself.. my biggest eater in my tank... he ate pellets flakes you name it.... him and my purple got a little fiesty at the beg.. but soon tapered off..

08/19/2008, 06:27 PM	#9
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	yeap i have had these fish for sometime... the latest addition was 6+ months ago in the tang/angel tank and 3+ months ago in the batfish tank... and i see very very little agression i9n either tank an ocassional chase but thats the extent of it and the chases last less than 10 seconds and never any physical contact

08/19/2008, 06:37 PM	#10
markandkristen Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Winterhaven, fl Posts: 4,081	thats how it was in my tank.. never any major aggression... ... i have to admit gill became my favorite fish.. (my wife picked him out) so i would never admit it in front of her LOL

08/19/2008, 08:23 PM	#12
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	Moorish idols will not last long term in your tank unless you can supply them with the food the eat in nature--live sponges--and alot of them __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

08/20/2008, 03:21 AM	#13
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	crvz... shipped already should be here wiyhin the next 12 hours capn... you got any info you could pm me with a bout some live sponge suppliers.. i made a comemntment to provide the best possible envioroment/life for this fish the moment i ordered it so if i have to stand on my head, while feeding him to keep him healthy and happy then ill stand on my head while feeding him live sponge

08/20/2008, 05:50 AM	#14
otrlynn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chester County PA Posts: 1,508	I have a recollection that I read that the legendary PaulB kept one until a tank "incident" or something...perhaps I am losing it in my old age, but maybe the capn would remember or you could pm PaulB. __________________ Lynn 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, small pond with a few koi. The fish tank is gone.

08/20/2008, 06:19 AM	#15
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	yeah i have read the moorish idol thread all one million pages worth and have it book marked

08/20/2008, 06:55 AM	#16
trueperc Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa, On, Canada Posts: 788	Can you provide a little more info on the idol, as in what size is he, and how long has the diverden had him? To note you don't have to constantly feed him sponge and lots of it, but a varity of diet and a lot of food yes. Now I have one for that past three years, I feed him as well as most of my tank mainly different pellets formul 1 formul 2, NLS medium and large, I feed the tank frozen angel food once a week and nori. My idol is also very large and fat. My guys tanks mates include, large french angel, large emperor, majestic, flagfin, achilles tang, powder blue, singapore angel, blue headed wrasse and a cleaner wrasse adn a couple of clowns. To note at one point I did have gold strip maron clowns in there, I only took them out as they where taking up to much territory, but never bothered the idol. There was a large pacific sailfin tang, he was removed as he was the only fish that did not get a long with the idol. This is just my experience and is not meant to be what is said to work all the time as each fish is different.

08/20/2008, 07:43 AM	#17
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	well he is either 4 1/4 or 4 1/2 inch ( i dont remeber exactly) i forgot to ask how long they had him but i will see if i can find out...i did find out what foods they were feeding him and its the same as i feed my tanks except the mysis was a diffrent brand but i cannot see wher ther would be a big diffrence in mysis.. besides the flakes,pelets and mysis he is used to i also feed the tank nori and b/f- angel formula frozen, marine entree, and emeral mix and i dont have a particular schedgle on the frozen..just which ever one i grab out of the freezer iam considering putting him in the angel/tang tank... which has the most rockwork/caves/overhangs and has a prety wide open swimming area as well it also has the maroon clown but she is actually pretty mellow for a gsm clown (no mate..never had one in my tank at least)... the moorish idol is aprox the same size as the purple tang i bought at the same time and if all works out i will introduce both of them to the tank at the same time to reduce/spread out the aggression(after qt)... last check they were at fed x facility an hour away (closet one to me).... Last edited by agreeive?fish; 08/20/2008 at 07:52 AM.

08/20/2008, 09:10 AM	#18
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	on truck for delievery...for 2 hours now..nice day today low 70s and only supposed to top out in mid 70s

08/20/2008, 09:17 AM	#19
Tswifty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PA Posts: 14,022	__________________ "Enough light? Heck I could go barebottom and grow SPS in the stand!" - DiscoReefRover

08/20/2008, 09:45 AM	#20
cpony69 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 55	I have tried to keep many idols and they either get hassled to death or never eat.

08/20/2008, 09:51 AM	#21
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	well the harrassed to death i dont know yet how thats going to work but i have 3 tanks he could go in 175g 200g or a 210g... as far as eating i bought it from divers den and it has been eating flakes,pellets, and mysis for 4 weeks ..will he continue once he is in my tanks only he/she knows

08/20/2008, 12:53 PM	#22
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	they are here...bags floating right now

08/20/2008, 01:06 PM	#24
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	FOWLR tanks

08/20/2008, 01:19 PM	#25
70ss Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: PA Posts: 86	Good luck and keep us posted.