flame angel + lemonpeel angel ..bad news

Ginzo · 09/21/2008, 04:52 PM

Hey guys,

I was gone on vacation for 4 weeks and during that time, my brother was babysitting my tank: 120g reef with around 75lbs of LiveRock.

During that time, he though it might be a nice "gift" to give me Flame Angel for my birthday. He went to my LFS and proceeded to add a nice and healthy flame angel to my tank.

Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, since I always wanted a flame angel. Only problem, is I already have a Lemonpeel Angel (been there for 9 months) now in my tank. He's pretty much the boss of the tank.

So when I got back from vacation and my brother informed me of the gift, I wasn't surprised to find the flame angel hiding behind my Tunze pumps.

Both the Lemonpeel and Flame Angel are pretty much the same size, with maybe a slighter avantage to the Lemonpeel. I immediately noticed the Lemonpeel was aggressive towards the Flame angel..to the point that the only little space the flame angel can hide is behind the Tunze pumps.

I have tried to remove him from the tank, without any success. He looks healthy and eats the food I put in the tank. He swims around the pumps and grazes on the algae.

If the Lemonpeel sees him, he scoots over to scare him.

What can I do ? I don't want to take town my tank...

I was thinking of adding more live rock to help create more hiding places.

Any suggestions ?

Macimage · 09/21/2008, 05:04 PM

You can try adding and/or rearranging your live rock.

I've had good success with partioning off part of the tank with eggcrate and then you only have to remove part of the live rock. You can remove either fish, as one or the other most likely will have to go.

Joyce

Aj Flip · 09/21/2008, 05:04 PM

i would take out the lemonpeel and put him in a temporary tank for a few weeks till the flame gains some confidence in its new home then add the lemonpeel again, or make an eggcrate divider for your tank and separate the two for a few weeks

yetiman · 09/21/2008, 05:11 PM

Try the mirror trick. Place a mirror on the side of the tank and if your lucky it will ditract the lemonpeel.

Chibils · 09/21/2008, 05:31 PM

Give it some time. Try the above to be safe, but I had the same issue with a Potter's and argi added to a 30 at the same time. They chased each other around at first to establish dominance, but now don't bother each other. They mostly stick to themselves, but will not fight in close quarters.

Ginzo · 09/21/2008, 06:31 PM

My Lemonpeel attacks pretty much any fish..except for the Flasher Wrasse..he's too quick for him.

Earlier today, the flame angel summoned courage to go "see" the lemonpeel. I witnessed a vicious attack of the Lemonpeel. They have been doing this pretty much all day.

I placed a mirror..but don't think it will help much. I'm hoping with time the attacks will become less frequent.

Mappelbaum37 · 09/21/2008, 06:33 PM

I find that most aggression in the early stages of adding a new fish is always strongest during feeding. For example I added my 6 line wrasse about 4 months ago and he was constantly chased by my flame hawk. it calmed down, but during feeding the hawk would chase the 6 line because he wanted the food to himself. Hopefully your fish will calm down. Try rearranging the rock if you cant catch either of them. Thats what I would do.

Good luck

xenon · 09/21/2008, 07:26 PM

I kept lemonpeel and flame in a 40g breeder no problem. If anything the lemonpeel was more shy.

I added them both at the same time though.

Macimage · 09/21/2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

I witnessed a vicious attack of the Lemonpeel. They have been doing this pretty much all day.

It's a bit disturbing that you are not attempting to remove one of the fish.

Joyce

limitdown · 09/21/2008, 08:08 PM

Try moving the lemonpeel to another tank for 2-3wks, rearrange the rock work in your DT, then reintroduce the lemonpeel.

09/21/2008, 04:52 PM	#1
Ginzo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 754	flame angel + lemonpeel angel ..bad news Hey guys, I was gone on vacation for 4 weeks and during that time, my brother was babysitting my tank: 120g reef with around 75lbs of LiveRock. During that time, he though it might be a nice "gift" to give me Flame Angel for my birthday. He went to my LFS and proceeded to add a nice and healthy flame angel to my tank. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, since I always wanted a flame angel. Only problem, is I already have a Lemonpeel Angel (been there for 9 months) now in my tank. He's pretty much the boss of the tank. So when I got back from vacation and my brother informed me of the gift, I wasn't surprised to find the flame angel hiding behind my Tunze pumps. Both the Lemonpeel and Flame Angel are pretty much the same size, with maybe a slighter avantage to the Lemonpeel. I immediately noticed the Lemonpeel was aggressive towards the Flame angel..to the point that the only little space the flame angel can hide is behind the Tunze pumps. I have tried to remove him from the tank, without any success. He looks healthy and eats the food I put in the tank. He swims around the pumps and grazes on the algae. If the Lemonpeel sees him, he scoots over to scare him. What can I do ? I don't want to take town my tank... I was thinking of adding more live rock to help create more hiding places. Any suggestions ?

09/21/2008, 05:31 PM	#5
Chibils halide loyalist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sugar Hill, GA Posts: 2,213	Give it some time. Try the above to be safe, but I had the same issue with a Potter's and argi added to a 30 at the same time. They chased each other around at first to establish dominance, but now don't bother each other. They mostly stick to themselves, but will not fight in close quarters. __________________ always learning Current Tank Info: 75G new world cichlid, 25G reef in planning

09/21/2008, 06:33 PM	#7
Mappelbaum37 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 886	I find that most aggression in the early stages of adding a new fish is always strongest during feeding. For example I added my 6 line wrasse about 4 months ago and he was constantly chased by my flame hawk. it calmed down, but during feeding the hawk would chase the 6 line because he wanted the food to himself. Hopefully your fish will calm down. Try rearranging the rock if you cant catch either of them. Thats what I would do. Good luck __________________ Matt Current Tank Info: 75 gallon reef

09/21/2008, 08:08 PM	#10
limitdown Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 640	Try moving the lemonpeel to another tank for 2-3wks, rearrange the rock work in your DT, then reintroduce the lemonpeel. __________________ All I want for Christmas is to stay employed... Current Tank Info: 200g display + 50g sump FO

09/21/2008, 05:04 PM	#2
Macimage Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Quartz Hill Posts: 4,078	You can try adding and/or rearranging your live rock. I've had good success with partioning off part of the tank with eggcrate and then you only have to remove part of the live rock. You can remove either fish, as one or the other most likely will have to go. Joyce

09/21/2008, 05:04 PM	#3
Aj Flip Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 802	i would take out the lemonpeel and put him in a temporary tank for a few weeks till the flame gains some confidence in its new home then add the lemonpeel again, or make an eggcrate divider for your tank and separate the two for a few weeks

09/21/2008, 05:11 PM	#4
yetiman Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oshkosh WI Posts: 239	Try the mirror trick. Place a mirror on the side of the tank and if your lucky it will ditract the lemonpeel.

09/21/2008, 06:31 PM	#6
Ginzo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 754	My Lemonpeel attacks pretty much any fish..except for the Flasher Wrasse..he's too quick for him. Earlier today, the flame angel summoned courage to go "see" the lemonpeel. I witnessed a vicious attack of the Lemonpeel. They have been doing this pretty much all day. I placed a mirror..but don't think it will help much. I'm hoping with time the attacks will become less frequent.

09/21/2008, 07:26 PM	#8
xenon Owner of Canada Corals Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississauga, Canada Posts: 3,148	I kept lemonpeel and flame in a 40g breeder no problem. If anything the lemonpeel was more shy. I added them both at the same time though.