Who runs Chaeto & Phosban

dfm34 · 09/27/2008, 04:43 PM

I have heard it is not a good idea to run phosban and keep Chaeto in a fudge. Anyone do this and if no why?

Thanks in advance

Dan

victor_c3 · 09/27/2008, 05:19 PM

I just saw a thread recently talking about this.

I personnaly run GFO and run chaeto in a refugium. My chaeto still gets decent growth (the volume of chaeto doubles every three weeks or so).

For a while the light in my sump burned out and I pulled the chaeto out of my refugium and stuck it in a bucket in a window for a few weeks until I got around to buying a new light fixture for my sump. In the mean time, the algae in my display started to get out of control - even while I was stull running GFO. As soon as I got around to installing the light in my sump and added the chaeto back to the system, the algae disapeared almost over night.

stuccodude · 09/27/2008, 05:50 PM

same experince kinda, i run both and my light went out and after 2 years finally got algea in my display. after 10 days of no light i got one again and algea is going away. my cheato does not grow though.

mrpenguin · 09/27/2008, 06:11 PM

I dont think it has anything to do with "is it bad to run them together"
I run GFO and have Cheato but my cheato is not growing and is actualy starting to die a bit because the GFO is removing what the Cheato is eating.

I think if you want your cheato to thrive you need to run very little GFO or not run it 24/7 because eventualy the cheato will starve ... this is as far as I understand and have seen from my own sysytem.

dfm34 · 09/27/2008, 07:37 PM

Interesting. I am not so worried about chaeto growth as I am with algee in my DT. I am starting to get som HA and I think it is from some bad live rock i bought for my tank upgrade. I think they are leeaching PO4? So want to use GFO and the Chaeto to help reduce it?

J.russell · 09/27/2008, 07:44 PM

Im using both. Been running the reactor for about 3 weeks now and the cheato has been growing just not alot. Almost all of my algea is gone now.

eros · 09/28/2008, 04:24 AM

I run both, just turn my phosban reactor down some and the cheato grows better. I still have most of the algae I had before adding both but it hasnt spread and it has only been a few weeks since I added them. Damn hair algae! BTW, I get almost no film algae on the glass, some hard calcium type stuff but not the slimy kind that needs daily cleaning.

spleify · 09/28/2008, 08:40 AM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...=GFO+or+chaeto

bbehring · 09/28/2008, 08:50 AM

Interesting. Never had any problem with running the 2 together. I run GFO in a reactor and have for some time. I've had cheato in my sump for years and have to take 1/2 out every two to three weeks. The stuff gorws like crazy. Once I changed my bulb to Melves method, the growth exploded. I've never noticed any problems on my end with have GFO running with cheato. I also run purigen and carbon form time to time.

Garage1217 · 09/28/2008, 11:12 AM

I run both, cheato still grows just fine & doubles in size about every 3 weeks. My maidens hair colonie actually halted most of it's growth after adding gfo, slowest grower I have right now.

DrBegalke · 09/28/2008, 11:36 AM

I also use both.

stanlalee · 09/28/2008, 12:29 PM

If you have fish and/or feed on a regular basis shouldn't be much of a problem. you are still adding phophates to be consumed. If you arent feeding very often or maintain very low nutrients could pose a problem.

WLachnit · 09/28/2008, 12:31 PM

^ +1

09/27/2008, 04:43 PM	#1
dfm34 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Spotswood, New Jersey Posts: 588	Who runs Chaeto & Phosban I have heard it is not a good idea to run phosban and keep Chaeto in a fudge. Anyone do this and if no why? Thanks in advance Dan __________________ Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. 180 gal DT with 75 gal sump/fuge,10 gal cryptic zone, 3x400w MH with 4x80w T5. life reef vs3 30" skimmer

09/27/2008, 05:50 PM	#3
stuccodude Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: sanger Posts: 1,040	same experince kinda, i run both and my light went out and after 2 years finally got algea in my display. after 10 days of no light i got one again and algea is going away. my cheato does not grow though. __________________ fear the wrath of patrick willis!!! no offense is safe. Current Tank Info: 240 all the goodies,hydra 26 led lights, chiller etc

09/27/2008, 06:11 PM	#4
mrpenguin Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 515	I dont think it has anything to do with "is it bad to run them together" I run GFO and have Cheato but my cheato is not growing and is actualy starting to die a bit because the GFO is removing what the Cheato is eating. I think if you want your cheato to thrive you need to run very little GFO or not run it 24/7 because eventualy the cheato will starve ... this is as far as I understand and have seen from my own sysytem. __________________ Mix Reef 75G Display 50G Sump/fuge 4x 54W T5 HO Lighting Berlin Protein Skimmer Phosban Reactor runing carbon 24/7 Phosban Reactor runing GFO 24/7

09/27/2008, 07:37 PM	#5
dfm34 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Spotswood, New Jersey Posts: 588	Interesting. I am not so worried about chaeto growth as I am with algee in my DT. I am starting to get som HA and I think it is from some bad live rock i bought for my tank upgrade. I think they are leeaching PO4? So want to use GFO and the Chaeto to help reduce it? __________________ Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. 180 gal DT with 75 gal sump/fuge,10 gal cryptic zone, 3x400w MH with 4x80w T5. life reef vs3 30" skimmer

09/28/2008, 08:40 AM	#8
spleify Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 9,579	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...=GFO+or+chaeto __________________ Make it a Great Day!!!! Current Tank Info: 60 gal SPS cube, with 25 gal refugium, 400W MH, DIY Lumenarc III, DIY skimmer, DIY stand and canopy. 40 breeder LPS with 40 gallon sump, DIY stand, 250W MH

09/27/2008, 05:19 PM	#2
victor_c3 Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Posts: 513	I just saw a thread recently talking about this. I personnaly run GFO and run chaeto in a refugium. My chaeto still gets decent growth (the volume of chaeto doubles every three weeks or so). For a while the light in my sump burned out and I pulled the chaeto out of my refugium and stuck it in a bucket in a window for a few weeks until I got around to buying a new light fixture for my sump. In the mean time, the algae in my display started to get out of control - even while I was stull running GFO. As soon as I got around to installing the light in my sump and added the chaeto back to the system, the algae disapeared almost over night.

09/27/2008, 07:44 PM	#6
J.russell What was I thinking??? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Norfolk Va. Posts: 738	Im using both. Been running the reactor for about 3 weeks now and the cheato has been growing just not alot. Almost all of my algea is gone now.

09/28/2008, 04:24 AM	#7
eros Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 878	I run both, just turn my phosban reactor down some and the cheato grows better. I still have most of the algae I had before adding both but it hasnt spread and it has only been a few weeks since I added them. Damn hair algae! BTW, I get almost no film algae on the glass, some hard calcium type stuff but not the slimy kind that needs daily cleaning.

09/28/2008, 08:50 AM	#9
bbehring Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hemet, California Posts: 917	Interesting. Never had any problem with running the 2 together. I run GFO in a reactor and have for some time. I've had cheato in my sump for years and have to take 1/2 out every two to three weeks. The stuff gorws like crazy. Once I changed my bulb to Melves method, the growth exploded. I've never noticed any problems on my end with have GFO running with cheato. I also run purigen and carbon form time to time.

09/28/2008, 11:12 AM	#10
Garage1217 GET OFF MY LAWN Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Globally Posts: 5,863	I run both, cheato still grows just fine & doubles in size about every 3 weeks. My maidens hair colonie actually halted most of it's growth after adding gfo, slowest grower I have right now. __________________ No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness ~ Aristotle If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? ~ Albert Einstein I'm just as bent as ever. Hellishly so ~ Captain Jack Sparrow Current Tank Info: Systems and goodies by Lee-Mar / Coralvue / Neptune Systems / Jager / Spectrapure / Cree / Meanwell + more!

09/28/2008, 11:36 AM	#11
DrBegalke Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix area, AZ Posts: 2,599	I also use both. __________________ ~Jason Begalke Current Tank Info: Latest project: JBJ Cubey

09/28/2008, 12:29 PM	#12
stanlalee Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: hampton roads, va Posts: 1,799	If you have fish and/or feed on a regular basis shouldn't be much of a problem. you are still adding phophates to be consumed. If you arent feeding very often or maintain very low nutrients could pose a problem.

09/28/2008, 12:31 PM	#13
WLachnit Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,722	^ +1 __________________ (1) 300g mixed reef (Starfire DT) + 100g Sump (2) 100g Softie tank (Starfire DT) My Build Thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263472