powder blue tang and ich prevention ????

onevia_01 · 09/27/2008, 11:12 PM

I have just bought myself a powder blue tang and added it to my
130Gal mixed reef tank.

I realise now that I have made a huge mistake by adding this fish without placing it in QT.
Has anybody had any FIRST HAND experience with these fish and tips on how to prevent the on set of Ich.
I conduct weekly water changes and keep Alkalinity, PH and temperature consistent.

I am also providing a constant supply of Nori and Zucchini during the day.

Any tips on what else may help?

what are your experiences?

Thanks fellow Reefers

JR719 · 09/27/2008, 11:20 PM

lots of hiding places. Have a few cleaner shrimp on hand. Feed Spectrum thera A+. If your adding after having several other fish, they may pick on it, that won't help at all. Only will add stress and ick will set in. Good luck, they are a beautiful fish.

jnc914 · 09/28/2008, 12:10 AM

I have experience with an Achille's Tang, which is on par with the PBT as being delicate and ich prone. Unfortunately both are fish that really need a QT period to rid it of ich. At this point it is not "if" it will get ich, it is when it will show up. At that point you will need to pull it out of the display and put in a hospital tank for treatment (hyposalinity or copper), along with any other fish that are infected, and leave the display without fish for 6-8 weeks. As for the cleaner shrimp, there have been studies that show they are not effective against ridding a fish of a parasite. In fact, when the contents of their stomachs were looked at, there were no traces of parasites that they "cleaned" from the fish. Cleaners removes dead tissue from your fish.

Sorry to be negative, maybe you will luck out and not need to deal with ich. Good luck with your PBT.

Tswifty · 09/28/2008, 12:15 AM

The biggest thing with fish like that, is that you need to understand that the fish WILL get sick at some point or another, and prepare yourself accordingly.

I have a PBT that went through black ich in QT, the regular ich in the display tank, but I was prepared for it... so it was no big deal.

IMO if you add a healthy specimen you'll be fine.

Feel free to shoot me a PM if you want to know anything specific. Good luck. PBT's are spectacular looking fish.

cloak · 09/28/2008, 01:30 AM

Did you buy a sick fish? Did it get sick in the best environment you can provide? Are all fish sick, one way or the other?

Paranoia runs rampant...

FWIW.

Tswifty · 09/28/2008, 01:36 AM

^^^This dude is so friggin weird.

cloak · 09/28/2008, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tswifty8
^^^This dude is so friggin weird.

I'm guessing you would like to see the other half. No?

Ever seen that movie "Six pack?" I'm a Diane Lane fan...

agreeive?fish · 09/28/2008, 04:23 AM

you wont see near as many post about it for the powder blue compared to the achillies but they like a good amount of flow as well ..my powder blue spens a good amount of time playing in the flow from a korollia #4 and personally i think the added flow helps with keeping the fish healthy and happy, i have no sienctific data to back that up jts just a personal opinion

onevia_01 · 09/28/2008, 04:29 AM

thanks guys greatly appreciated.
I might take you up on that twifty8.
thanks again.

abulgin · 09/28/2008, 08:12 AM

I assume you have other fish in the tank?

shaginwagon13 · 09/28/2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by onevia_01
I have just bought myself a powder blue tang and added it to my
130Gal mixed reef tank.

I realise now that I have made a huge mistake by adding this fish without placing it in QT.
Has anybody had any FIRST HAND experience with these fish and tips on how to prevent the on set of Ich.
I conduct weekly water changes and keep Alkalinity, PH and temperature consistent.

I am also providing a constant supply of Nori and Zucchini during the day.

Any tips on what else may help?

what are your experiences?

Thanks fellow Reefers

I had a PBT and right after a got him and put him in my aquarium he came down with ich. I obviosly couldn't treat him with medication because he wasn't in QT so I did everything I could to boost his ammune system.

I fed him a half sheet of seaweed that was soaked in garlic daily and then he also ate some flake foods 2-3 times a day when I fed the clowns and damsels.

It took around a month but he got over it without any medication and I found that the more I fed him the faster he seemed to recover.

onevia_01 · 09/29/2008, 01:29 AM

thanks shagginwagon I'll keep feeding him like that.
I thought that may help

Tswifty · 09/29/2008, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shaginwagon13
I had a PBT and right after a got him and put him in my aquarium he came down with ich. I obviosly couldn't treat him with medication because he wasn't in QT so I did everything I could to boost his ammune system.

I fed him a half sheet of seaweed that was soaked in garlic daily and then he also ate some flake foods 2-3 times a day when I fed the clowns and damsels.

It took around a month but he got over it without any medication and I found that the more I fed him the faster he seemed to recover.

If the PBT is already in your tank, this is about all you can do.

good luck.

RBU1 · 09/29/2008, 06:33 AM

Some people feel that QT is the way to go. I can't say a disagree but I can't be bothered with it. When I set up my 75 gallon tank over 4 years ago I QT'd all my fish. I almost lost a few fish in QT because it is real hard to keep the water quality as good in a QT as you can in your main tank. Also keep in mind if you are going to QT you need to QT everything that goes in tank. That includes corals, inverts, rock, I mean everything. Ich can be on anything you put in your tank. I now have a 300 and my 75. The fish in my 300 seem to always show little signs of ich (mostly the hippo) but nothing full blown. I recently added an asfur angel, pygmy angel and a purple tang to the 300. The purple tang had spots all over him. I feed him a great deal of seaweed soaked in vitamin c and so far so good. I wish you luck and enjoy the hobby.

tangtang clown · 09/29/2008, 08:43 AM

Sunday I added a lemonpeel angel, coral beauty, mandarin, some type of blenny/goby, and a pajama cardinal to my 75.

I got these, a clown, a yellow tang, and a blue tang from a guy for $30.
I gave my friend the blue tang, the yellow, and the clown.

I have had a yellow tang for over a year now and after I added the new fish to the tank, it looks like the yellow tang has some sort of ich.

His tail and side fins mostly. Not much on his body. It also looks like something tried to grab him by the tail.

What is the best reef safe treatment?
Or should I just feed and hope for the best?

I just took out my UV 3 days ago to change the bulb. Could this be a problem, or should I hook it back up?

Thanks

RBU1 · 09/29/2008, 08:59 AM

To give you my opinion no reef safe treatments work they are a big waste of money. Feed good food and use seaweed soaked in garlic and vitmain c. Hopefully the fish will be strong enough to fight it off.

tangtang clown · 09/29/2008, 02:58 PM

How do I soak seaweed in garlic and vitamin c?
I feed omnivore frozen cubes daily with seaweed.
I have not fed seaweed sheets for a while.

Cheetos&Cocopuf · 09/30/2008, 01:26 PM

I have found that frozen Formula 2 (thawed and mushed up very well with a fork) seems to boost my fish' immune system and enhance coloration. They also love the stuff... even my Clown and jawfish!

09/27/2008, 11:12 PM	#1
onevia_01 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 104	powder blue tang and ich prevention ???? I have just bought myself a powder blue tang and added it to my 130Gal mixed reef tank. I realise now that I have made a huge mistake by adding this fish without placing it in QT. Has anybody had any FIRST HAND experience with these fish and tips on how to prevent the on set of Ich. I conduct weekly water changes and keep Alkalinity, PH and temperature consistent. I am also providing a constant supply of Nori and Zucchini during the day. Any tips on what else may help? what are your experiences? Thanks fellow Reefers

09/27/2008, 11:20 PM	#2
JR719 Tang Cop Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: OK Posts: 2,240	lots of hiding places. Have a few cleaner shrimp on hand. Feed Spectrum thera A+. If your adding after having several other fish, they may pick on it, that won't help at all. Only will add stress and ick will set in. Good luck, they are a beautiful fish. __________________ Can't sleep, clowns will eat me. America is the most grandiose experiment the world has seen, but, I am afraid, it is not going to be a success. Sigmund Freud Current Tank Info: 300 reef, Aqua controller, Deltec calcium reactor, Reeflo 250 skimmer, Icecap bla bla bla

09/28/2008, 12:10 AM	#3
jnc914 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,008	I have experience with an Achille's Tang, which is on par with the PBT as being delicate and ich prone. Unfortunately both are fish that really need a QT period to rid it of ich. At this point it is not "if" it will get ich, it is when it will show up. At that point you will need to pull it out of the display and put in a hospital tank for treatment (hyposalinity or copper), along with any other fish that are infected, and leave the display without fish for 6-8 weeks. As for the cleaner shrimp, there have been studies that show they are not effective against ridding a fish of a parasite. In fact, when the contents of their stomachs were looked at, there were no traces of parasites that they "cleaned" from the fish. Cleaners removes dead tissue from your fish. Sorry to be negative, maybe you will luck out and not need to deal with ich. Good luck with your PBT. __________________ "Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion." -Jack Kerouac 13 years strictly salty Current Tank Info: 180 gallon FOWLR Angel dedicated tank

09/28/2008, 01:36 AM	#6
Tswifty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PA Posts: 14,022	^^^This dude is so friggin weird. __________________ "Enough light? Heck I could go barebottom and grow SPS in the stand!" - DiscoReefRover

09/29/2008, 08:43 AM	#15
tangtang clown Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The DUB, NC Posts: 2,711	Sunday I added a lemonpeel angel, coral beauty, mandarin, some type of blenny/goby, and a pajama cardinal to my 75. I got these, a clown, a yellow tang, and a blue tang from a guy for $30. I gave my friend the blue tang, the yellow, and the clown. I have had a yellow tang for over a year now and after I added the new fish to the tank, it looks like the yellow tang has some sort of ich. His tail and side fins mostly. Not much on his body. It also looks like something tried to grab him by the tail. What is the best reef safe treatment? Or should I just feed and hope for the best? I just took out my UV 3 days ago to change the bulb. Could this be a problem, or should I hook it back up? Thanks __________________ Mind over chatter.

09/28/2008, 12:15 AM	#4
Tswifty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PA Posts: 14,022	The biggest thing with fish like that, is that you need to understand that the fish WILL get sick at some point or another, and prepare yourself accordingly. I have a PBT that went through black ich in QT, the regular ich in the display tank, but I was prepared for it... so it was no big deal. IMO if you add a healthy specimen you'll be fine. Feel free to shoot me a PM if you want to know anything specific. Good luck. PBT's are spectacular looking fish. __________________ "Enough light? Heck I could go barebottom and grow SPS in the stand!" - DiscoReefRover

09/28/2008, 01:30 AM	#5
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	Did you buy a sick fish? Did it get sick in the best environment you can provide? Are all fish sick, one way or the other? Paranoia runs rampant... FWIW.

09/28/2008, 04:23 AM	#8
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	you wont see near as many post about it for the powder blue compared to the achillies but they like a good amount of flow as well ..my powder blue spens a good amount of time playing in the flow from a korollia #4 and personally i think the added flow helps with keeping the fish healthy and happy, i have no sienctific data to back that up jts just a personal opinion

09/28/2008, 04:29 AM	#9
onevia_01 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 104	thanks guys greatly appreciated. I might take you up on that twifty8. thanks again.

09/28/2008, 08:12 AM	#10
abulgin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,664	I assume you have other fish in the tank?

09/29/2008, 01:29 AM	#12
onevia_01 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 104	thanks shagginwagon I'll keep feeding him like that. I thought that may help

09/29/2008, 06:33 AM	#14
RBU1 Moving on Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,167	Some people feel that QT is the way to go. I can't say a disagree but I can't be bothered with it. When I set up my 75 gallon tank over 4 years ago I QT'd all my fish. I almost lost a few fish in QT because it is real hard to keep the water quality as good in a QT as you can in your main tank. Also keep in mind if you are going to QT you need to QT everything that goes in tank. That includes corals, inverts, rock, I mean everything. Ich can be on anything you put in your tank. I now have a 300 and my 75. The fish in my 300 seem to always show little signs of ich (mostly the hippo) but nothing full blown. I recently added an asfur angel, pygmy angel and a purple tang to the 300. The purple tang had spots all over him. I feed him a great deal of seaweed soaked in vitamin c and so far so good. I wish you luck and enjoy the hobby.

09/29/2008, 08:59 AM	#16
RBU1 Moving on Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,167	To give you my opinion no reef safe treatments work they are a big waste of money. Feed good food and use seaweed soaked in garlic and vitmain c. Hopefully the fish will be strong enough to fight it off.

09/29/2008, 02:58 PM	#17
tangtang clown Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The DUB, NC Posts: 2,711	How do I soak seaweed in garlic and vitamin c? I feed omnivore frozen cubes daily with seaweed. I have not fed seaweed sheets for a while. __________________ Mind over chatter.

09/30/2008, 01:26 PM	#18
Cheetos&Cocopuf Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 89	I have found that frozen Formula 2 (thawed and mushed up very well with a fork) seems to boost my fish' immune system and enhance coloration. They also love the stuff... even my Clown and jawfish!