Hello from Genoa - Italy

Rive Gauche · 10/22/2008, 08:28 AM

Ciao,
this is my first message in yours forum, and so, excuse me for my bad English.
First of all I make you my compliments for the splendid forum that managed. For sure one of the bests in absolute.
I write from Italy, and I've an aquarium Elos 160x60x60 cm, with light 2x400W HQI + 4x54W T5 attinic.
During these last months, I have had a problem with a propagation of Idrozooi (in Italian, I don't know to write it in English) on rocks. Here in Italy nobody knows how to fighting these little flowers so I ask your aid.

I try to enclose a photography of these "Idrozooi".
The parameters of my tank are:
Temp= 26Â°c
NO2=0
NO3=0
PO4=0
MG=1250 / 1300
CA=410
KH=8

I hope that you can help me.
Ciao Ciao

Rive Gauche

patsfan1130 · 10/22/2008, 09:04 AM

I don't know what Idrozooi is unfortunately. sounds like it might be Apstasia. A pic would certainly help.

Oh and.....

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Aquarist007 · 10/22/2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rive Gauche
Ciao,
this is my first message in yours forum, and so, excuse me for my bad English.
First of all I make you my compliments for the splendid forum that managed. For sure one of the bests in absolute.
I write from Italy, and I've an aquarium Elos 160x60x60 cm, with light 2x400W HQI + 4x54W T5 attinic.
During these last months, I have had a problem with a propagation of Idrozooi (in Italian, I don't know to write it in English) on rocks. Here in Italy nobody knows how to fighting these little flowers so I ask your aid.
I try to enclose a photography of these "Idrozooi".
The parameters of my tank are:
Temp= 26Â°c
NO2=0
NO3=0
PO4=0
MG=1250 / 1300
CA=410
KH=8

I hope that you can help me.
Ciao Ciao

Rive Gauche

to show photographs in your posts:
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when you submit your post the code will change to the picture

I second the welcome:

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Rive Gauche · 10/22/2008, 09:18 AM

Here the photo.... I hope...

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...67DSC_7992.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...67DSC_7991.JPG

Bye

Kieth71 · 10/22/2008, 10:01 AM

zoas?

Aquarist007 · 10/22/2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rive Gauche
Here the photo.... I hope...

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...67DSC_7992.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...67DSC_7991.JPG

Bye

look like star polyps from the picture

Rive--try using photobucket--it will give a larger and much clearer picture in your posts

Rive Gauche · 10/22/2008, 03:20 PM

capn_hylinur
thank you for reply.
Tomorrow I'll try with photobucket, because these "idrozooi" are very strong to die.
I am very pleased to be able to change my point of view with you who live so far away.
Thanks to Internet who allows us to share our hobby...
For the moment... good night (or day for you)

lkirkt · 10/22/2008, 04:58 PM

Welcome to Reef central. You are in a beautiful area. I had the opportunity to go to Easter Mass in Milan and then spend a few days in the cinco terra, very bella.

Aquarist007 · 10/22/2008, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rive Gauche
capn_hylinur
thank you for reply.
Tomorrow I'll try with photobucket, because these "idrozooi" are very strong to die.
I am very pleased to be able to change my point of view with you who live so far away.
Thanks to Internet who allows us to share our hobby...
For the moment... good night (or day for you)

the pleasure is all mine Rive--look forward to more correspondance in the future

Rae C. · 10/22/2008, 05:15 PM

They look like zoas to me too. That is a valued coral in my opinion. Are you trying to get rid of it, or make it grow more?

boxer385 · 10/22/2008, 06:30 PM

Rive Gauche, i lived in ltaly for 3 years while serving in the U.S Army, i was station in Vicenza, loved that counrty plan to take my family their within 2 years. Good luck

Rive Gauche · 10/23/2008, 02:15 AM

Hello friends,
I've take out an account on www.photobucket.com
You can see the photographies to this address:
http://s431.photobucket.com/albums/qq37/GreatGenoa/

Unfortunately I don't think they are zoas, because they are very small. In my tank I have one Zebrasoma Flavescens, one Paracanthurus hepatus, one Zebrasoma Xanturum, two Lysmata Wundermanni, two Lysmata Amboinensis, two Lysmata Debelius, two mitrax, but nobody eats these idrozooi

I see that some of you know Italy... very well.

tmcgaughey · 10/23/2008, 02:29 AM

Italy is amazing. I spent 3 months in Florence after high school!! LOVED IT!

Looks like a star polyp of some sort maybe?

Freed · 10/23/2008, 03:09 AM

Those are clove polyps or clavularia? Those are good things it looks like from here.

bach2pilot · 10/23/2008, 04:47 AM

Welcome to the forum. Why do you want to get rid of these polyps? Are they taking over your tank? BTW, your English is excellent...

Aquarist007 · 10/23/2008, 06:58 AM

IMO --it looks like anthelia--a spreading coral

EvMiBo · 10/23/2008, 07:00 AM

i went to genoa for a few weeks about 6 or 7 years ago, beautiful. I think someone mentioned the cinco terra trail, i walked along that too! what a great place.

looks like a type of star polyp to me too, the only reason I would imagine you wouldn't like them in your tank is because they're taking over a lot of space and spreading??

Haksar · 10/23/2008, 10:51 AM

Those are star polypss,lucky to have those.How did it find its way to your tank.

Sugar Magnolia · 10/23/2008, 11:02 AM

Definitley not star polyps (clavularia sp) - the polyps length is too short. Looks more like organ pipe coral (Tubipora sp). For those of you with Borneman's coral book, check out page 120.

rad3dad · 10/23/2008, 11:06 AM

I agree with the above, that these are a welcomed guest in my tank. I have some living with some of the larger clove polyps they resemble, and seem to do no harm to anything next to them.

Are they causing you problems in your tank?

Rive Gauche · 10/27/2008, 09:22 AM

bach2pilot
yes, they are taking over my tank....

capn_hylinur
Unfortunately is not anthelia. It's very very small and it is diffused to carpet.

EvMiBo
Thank you for your comments on Genova, but one question: what is cinco terra trail?

Haksar
sorry for my english, but... I don't understand your question...

Sugar Magnolia
I have found the coral you type on http://www.arkive.org/organ-pipe-cor...?offset=-432px
It is possible.... the polyps resemble a lot.

My problem is that these polyps are invasive and ugly to see.

Unfortunately during these days I have a new problem in my tank with "Dinoflagellati". As soon as possible I will add some photo.

Saluti a tutti from Genova

Sk8r · 10/27/2008, 09:39 AM

ciao, ciao! :welcome:
---idrozooi would be 'hydroids', perhaps? Italian doesn't have an initial 'h'.

I understand Italian better than I speak it.
Sounds like a great tank.
I don't actually think they are hydroids: (little jellyfish that look like stars) Those usually show up on the glass and are transparent.
There are zoanthids (zoas), luttle button polyps.
And just plain polyps, such as green star polyps, which glow green under actinic lihgt.
These are something I've seen, are not any of the above, but I cannot name them.
Best advice: move any rock they grow on away from other rocks, even if you have to rebuild your rock structure.
I have some green star polyp I set in a corner, and it has now overgrown the glass as a green wall...

Rive Gauche · 10/27/2008, 10:02 AM

Ciao Sk8r,
the problem is that I don't understand what is really this little flowers, and here in italy nobody knows too.
I also have bought a Dolabella, hoping that he ate them but... nothing
It would seem that they have not natural enemies.

I think that I will throw of acid in my tank........ ;-)

EvMiBo · 10/27/2008, 10:16 AM

The trail (i may have mispelled it) is a hiking trail along the coast. I forget how long it actually is, but we only did a fraction of it. Really nice views all along it of the water and towns.

Rive Gauche · 10/27/2008, 10:23 AM

EvMiBo
Ok, I have understood now.
In Italy there are many walks thus.
Also near Genoa there is a much beautiful one, all on the sea.

10/22/2008, 08:28 AM	#1
Rive Gauche Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Genoa Posts: 8	Hello from Genoa - Italy Ciao, this is my first message in yours forum, and so, excuse me for my bad English. First of all I make you my compliments for the splendid forum that managed. For sure one of the bests in absolute. I write from Italy, and I've an aquarium Elos 160x60x60 cm, with light 2x400W HQI + 4x54W T5 attinic. During these last months, I have had a problem with a propagation of Idrozooi (in Italian, I don't know to write it in English) on rocks. Here in Italy nobody knows how to fighting these little flowers so I ask your aid. I try to enclose a photography of these "Idrozooi". The parameters of my tank are: Temp= 26Â°c NO2=0 NO3=0 PO4=0 MG=1250 / 1300 CA=410 KH=8 I hope that you can help me. Ciao Ciao Rive Gauche

10/22/2008, 09:04 AM	#2
patsfan1130 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woburn, Ma Posts: 2,010	I don't know what Idrozooi is unfortunately. sounds like it might be Apstasia. A pic would certainly help. Oh and..... *To Reef Central* __________________ My cat's breath smells like cat food Member of the Boston Reefers Society Current Tank Info: 75g lps, 90g sps, 120g mixed, 180 nem tank, 300g reef, 600g up & coming reef

10/22/2008, 05:15 PM	#10
Rae C. Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 916	They look like zoas to me too. That is a valued coral in my opinion. Are you trying to get rid of it, or make it grow more? __________________ Rae C It's 8:30, kids. Turn off the tank and go to bed! Current Tank Info: 65 gal, softies, 1 mandarine, 1 clown

10/23/2008, 03:09 AM	#14
Freed It's what it's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 41° 2' 45" N 85° 8' 43" W Posts: 7,579	Those are clove polyps or clavularia? Those are good things it looks like from here. __________________ Freed Current Tank Info: 180gal(1120 watts of MH/VHO light), 60gal "sump", Deltec 601 calcium reactor, Euro Reef CS8-3+ skimmer, 20 gallon QT

10/23/2008, 06:58 AM	#16
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	IMO --it looks like anthelia--a spreading coral __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

10/22/2008, 09:18 AM	#4
Rive Gauche Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Genoa Posts: 8	Here the photo.... I hope... http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...67DSC_7992.JPG http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...67DSC_7991.JPG Bye

10/22/2008, 10:01 AM	#5
Kieth71 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: colorado Posts: 1,026	zoas?

10/22/2008, 03:20 PM	#7
Rive Gauche Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Genoa Posts: 8	capn_hylinur thank you for reply. Tomorrow I'll try with photobucket, because these "idrozooi" are very strong to die. I am very pleased to be able to change my point of view with you who live so far away. Thanks to Internet who allows us to share our hobby... For the moment... good night (or day for you)

10/22/2008, 04:58 PM	#8
lkirkt Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 57	Welcome to Reef central. You are in a beautiful area. I had the opportunity to go to Easter Mass in Milan and then spend a few days in the cinco terra, very bella.

10/22/2008, 06:30 PM	#11
boxer385 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: University Park, illinois Posts: 1,718	Rive Gauche, i lived in ltaly for 3 years while serving in the U.S Army, i was station in Vicenza, loved that counrty plan to take my family their within 2 years. Good luck

10/23/2008, 02:15 AM	#12
Rive Gauche Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Genoa Posts: 8	Hello friends, I've take out an account on www.photobucket.com You can see the photographies to this address: http://s431.photobucket.com/albums/qq37/GreatGenoa/ Unfortunately I don't think they are zoas, because they are very small. In my tank I have one Zebrasoma Flavescens, one Paracanthurus hepatus, one Zebrasoma Xanturum, two Lysmata Wundermanni, two Lysmata Amboinensis, two Lysmata Debelius, two mitrax, but nobody eats these idrozooi I see that some of you know Italy... very well.

10/23/2008, 02:29 AM	#13
tmcgaughey Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 353	Italy is amazing. I spent 3 months in Florence after high school!! LOVED IT! Looks like a star polyp of some sort maybe?

10/23/2008, 04:47 AM	#15
bach2pilot Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 251	Welcome to the forum. Why do you want to get rid of these polyps? Are they taking over your tank? BTW, your English is excellent...

10/23/2008, 07:00 AM	#17
EvMiBo VictoriaConcordiaCrescit Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Myers, FL Posts: 1,929	i went to genoa for a few weeks about 6 or 7 years ago, beautiful. I think someone mentioned the cinco terra trail, i walked along that too! what a great place. looks like a type of star polyp to me too, the only reason I would imagine you wouldn't like them in your tank is because they're taking over a lot of space and spreading?? __________________ Evan \| DSA 135g Peninsula

10/23/2008, 10:51 AM	#18
Haksar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,041	Those are star polypss,lucky to have those.How did it find its way to your tank. __________________ Haksar

10/23/2008, 11:02 AM	#19
Sugar Magnolia Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 17,691	Definitley not star polyps (clavularia sp) - the polyps length is too short. Looks more like organ pipe coral (Tubipora sp). For those of you with Borneman's coral book, check out page 120. __________________ Adrienne The only thing to fear is fear itself....and spiders.

10/23/2008, 11:06 AM	#20
rad3dad Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central IL Posts: 175	I agree with the above, that these are a welcomed guest in my tank. I have some living with some of the larger clove polyps they resemble, and seem to do no harm to anything next to them. Are they causing you problems in your tank? __________________ The more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.

10/27/2008, 09:22 AM	#21
Rive Gauche Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Genoa Posts: 8	bach2pilot yes, they are taking over my tank.... capn_hylinur Unfortunately is not anthelia. It's very very small and it is diffused to carpet. EvMiBo Thank you for your comments on Genova, but one question: what is cinco terra trail? Haksar sorry for my english, but... I don't understand your question... Sugar Magnolia I have found the coral you type on http://www.arkive.org/organ-pipe-cor...?offset=-432px It is possible.... the polyps resemble a lot. My problem is that these polyps are invasive and ugly to see. Unfortunately during these days I have a new problem in my tank with "Dinoflagellati". As soon as possible I will add some photo. Saluti a tutti from Genova

10/27/2008, 09:39 AM	#22
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	ciao, ciao! :welcome: ---idrozooi would be 'hydroids', perhaps? Italian doesn't have an initial 'h'. I understand Italian better than I speak it. Sounds like a great tank. I don't actually think they are hydroids: (little jellyfish that look like stars) Those usually show up on the glass and are transparent. There are zoanthids (zoas), luttle button polyps. And just plain polyps, such as green star polyps, which glow green under actinic lihgt. These are something I've seen, are not any of the above, but I cannot name them. Best advice: move any rock they grow on away from other rocks, even if you have to rebuild your rock structure. I have some green star polyp I set in a corner, and it has now overgrown the glass as a green wall... __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%. Last edited by Sk8r; 10/27/2008 at 09:45 AM.

10/27/2008, 10:02 AM	#23
Rive Gauche Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Genoa Posts: 8	Ciao Sk8r, the problem is that I don't understand what is really this little flowers, and here in italy nobody knows too. I also have bought a Dolabella, hoping that he ate them but... nothing It would seem that they have not natural enemies. I think that I will throw of acid in my tank........ ;-)

10/27/2008, 10:16 AM	#24
EvMiBo VictoriaConcordiaCrescit Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Myers, FL Posts: 1,929	The trail (i may have mispelled it) is a hiking trail along the coast. I forget how long it actually is, but we only did a fraction of it. Really nice views all along it of the water and towns. __________________ Evan \| DSA 135g Peninsula

10/27/2008, 10:23 AM	#25
Rive Gauche Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Genoa Posts: 8	EvMiBo Ok, I have understood now. In Italy there are many walks thus. Also near Genoa there is a much beautiful one, all on the sea.